OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#19972 Jul 27, 2013
OMTE wrote:
Let's forget all this crap and get together to elect Chip Rogers as Georgia's next senator!
Why in the hell do you have to highjack my ID? Are you that stupid that you can't even come up with your own name?
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#19973 Jul 27, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's continue to enjoy Right Wing Wacko logic:
Under Right Wing Wacko Bush - the Saudis, in fact the bin Ladens,(Bush and Cheney family friends and business partners in the oil business), blow up the WTC.
Of course, per RWW Logic, that's not RWWs Bush and Cheney's fault.
Then, to make billions for his buddies and get re-elected, RWW Bush invades Iraq, the one country in the Middle East that hates the Saudis,(who actually blew up the WTC)
Now RWW Bush:
- allowed the Saudis to blow up the WTC,
- then used our Air Force to escort the family of the Saudi terrorists safely out of the country,
- then invades Iraq, a country that had nothing to do with the blowing up the WTC,
- the country he invades is actually the sworn enemy of the Saudis.
- wastes $6 Trillion Dollars and kills 5,000 American Troops doing this,
- and for the entire RWW Bush administration bin Laden is as safe as if he'd been in those Saudi private jets RWW Bush escorted safely from American jurisdiction to their Saudi mosques.
per RWW Logic that all is fine - in fact, so brilliant, they want to return RWWs to unlimited power.
Let's face it RWWs allowed 09/11 to occur, protected the terrorist family who did it, then protected the terrorist who did it, then killed 5,000 Americans protecting the country that sent the terrorists who did it, and now like to pretend their all tough bad asses who hate terrorists.
To be better lovers of Saudi Arab Muslim Terrorists Right Wing Wackos would have to airlift their daughters to the bin Ladens palaces in Saudi Arabia to join their harems.
Hey.... The Saudis are not happy with Iran - let's kill another 10,000 American troops protecting the Saudi Arab Muslims.from those evil Iranians.
Hint - this is where, because its impossible to refute the indisputable plain facts - you attack and insult messenger.
Nobody will notice the facts remain the facts.
Please - it's fun to watch.
Syn was right. You're hopeless. You worship Obama and are obsessed with Bush. I will not reply to you again.
Informed Opinion

Fort Myers, FL

#19974 Jul 27, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>Syn was right. You're hopeless. You worship Obama and are obsessed with Bush. I will not reply to you again.
You,

Almost....

Almost ....

Almost had the courage to either attempt to rebut the facts, or simply acknowledge the truth, but, in the end, you simply reverted to the cowardly response for which Right Wing Wackos are famous - an irrelevant personal attack on the messenger.

Thanks for allowing your silence to confirm the accuracy of the statements made.

and

Thanks for confirming that Right Wing Wackos, when confronted with facts, slink into the shadows, casting personal aspersions over their shoulders, as they slink away.

Hey... No wonder the Right Wingers heroes are always draft-dodgers who love wars they themselves never have to fight.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#19975 Jul 27, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not post an authority that disputes the facts presented.
Oh wait...
Can't be done.
Nice try, but you missed the target - again. Your principle weapons are hyperbole, projection and the much beloved straw man. Your so-called facts have been refuted time and time again with no evidence that the truth has penetrated your fog, so most of us just ignore you until the impulse hits to swat you down again.
But please, feel free to believe that:
== Bush (and the EVIL Cheney) allowed 9/11 to happen,
== that our military escorted the bin Laden family ,(by the way, do you realize how HUGE the bin Laden family is - that Osama was one of over 50 children by various wives of the father, that Osama's Saudi citizenship was REVOKED in 1993 because of his weapons smuggling - more inconvenient truths for you - are you responsible for the actions of EVERY member of your family?)
==that Obama is Right Wing - please keep saying this, it is hilarious
==that most of the debt cannot be laid at Democrats (most, not all, unfortunately we have a few too many Republicans that are too spineless to make hard fiscal decisions)
==that Obamacare is going to make healthcare more available and inexpensive - just ignore the CBO figures that after all Obamacare is implemented - heaven forbid- 30 million will STILL NOT HAVE INSURANCE, and continue to ignore that despite Obama's promises health care premiums are going UP
== and all your other little figments of your imagination that are too numerous to expound upon here.

Just remember, very few here take you seriously anymore. You do have your mutual admiration society of two with oh my, and maybe that is sufficient. But anytime you want to stop with the nonsense and actually participate in a reasoned discussion, I'm sure many of us will engage.
Where

Cleveland, GA

#19976 Jul 27, 2013
The American military wants to communicate with the public.

George Little, assistant to the secretary of defense for public affairs said::

We must all think creatively on how best to communicate with the American people. We must be ready to experiment with new and less expensive ways to connect with the nation, he said."

http://www.defense.gov/News/NewsArticle.aspx...


And this is one method how they communicate....
How stupid can the military get??

"FORT BRAGG, NC U.S. Army Forces Command (FORSCOM) released its Fiscal Year 2014 guidance Friday on the proper wear of safety clothing and gear, to include the oft-derided PT belt of reflective fabric.

Standards were broadened to enhance safety across a greater swath of service life, even touching on family members, pets and wild animals. Proponents of the policy change insist that though the new rules require some extra effort, they will result in improved safety. But not everyone is convinced.

I mean, I appreciate their good intentions, complained Jessica Sweat, wife of an 82d Airborne Soldier, standing on the porch of her Fort Bragg house.But does the Army ever step back and think what impact their rules have on peoples lives? Its a huge pain having to put on a PT belt, helmet, closed-toed shoes, and clear safety goggles, all just so I can go get the mail from the box on the corner.

She points at the mailbox with her plastic safety flashlight, the plastic cone glowing faintly orange.Look. The mailbox is literally right there. If you were standing over there I wouldnt even have to raise my voice to talk to you.

Christ, she adds."

http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/07/army-safety...

Where

Cleveland, GA

#19977 Jul 27, 2013
"Pentagon study on the accuracy of various running and marching cadences."

"Napalm Does Stick To Kids."

"According to Evans, the drive to overhaul cadences came when after-action reports from the 75th Ranger Regiment on the popular multi-service C-130 Rolling Down a Strip cadence showed that not only did Airborne Rangers chutes not open wide, but when the reserve failed they were not able to go after Satan.

Most couldnt even penetrate the ground, according to Evans,which raises a lot of questions of how they would get all the way down to Hell, assuming of course that Hell isnt an abstract concept but that was beyond the scope of this study."


http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/07/napalm-stic...
Where

Cleveland, GA

#19978 Jul 27, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>

But anytime you want to stop with the nonsense and actually participate in a reasoned discussion, I'm sure many of us will engage.

My daddy always told me to not suffer fools gladly.

I'll pass.
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#19979 Jul 27, 2013
Is there no right or wrong anymore? Why is this not in the news, more than what it is?

http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp...
Where

Cleveland, GA

#19980 Jul 27, 2013
This may explain why IO is Pro Gay, him being a Marine and all.

"Called Were Also Looking For A Few Good Men, the recruiting poster contains a picture of the famous Iwo Jima flagraising, only the Marines are raising the Rainbow Flag associated with the Gay Pride movement. The poster then contains the phone number of the local San Francisco recruiting office."


http://www.duffelblog.com/2013/06/new-marine-...


hate

Alpharetta, GA

#19981 Jul 27, 2013
How about giving Obama a 10 minute break, here is another black man for you so called Christian people to hate.

Archbishop Tutu would pick hell over an anti-gay heaven
2 hrs ago

Archbishop Desmond Tutu would rather go to hell than to a homophobic heaven. The iconic South African churchman hasn't lost any of the fire in his belly when it comes to freedom fighting, despite his retirement, and is still a vocal campaigner for gay equality in Africa. Speaking at the launch of a United Nations' gay rights campaign in Cape Town, Tutu said he "would not worship a God who is homophobic," adding that you could count him out of paradise if it had an anti-gay bias. "I would much rather go to the other place," he said. He went on to denounce any faith that discriminated against gay people.[Source]
Informed Opinion

Fort Myers, FL

#19982 Jul 27, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>Nice try, but you missed the target - again. Your principle weapons are hyperbole, projection and the much beloved straw man. Your so-called facts have been refuted time and time again with no evidence that the truth has penetrated your fog, so most of us just ignore you until the impulse hits to swat you down again.
But please, feel free to believe that:
== Bush (and the EVIL Cheney) allowed 9/11 to happen,
== that our military escorted the bin Laden family ,(by the way, do you realize how HUGE the bin Laden family is - that Osama was one of over 50 children by various wives of the father, that Osama's Saudi citizenship was REVOKED in 1993 because of his weapons smuggling - more inconvenient truths for you - are you responsible for the actions of EVERY member of your family?)
==that Obama is Right Wing - please keep saying this, it is hilarious
==that most of the debt cannot be laid at Democrats (most, not all, unfortunately we have a few too many Republicans that are too spineless to make hard fiscal decisions)
==that Obamacare is going to make healthcare more available and inexpensive - just ignore the CBO figures that after all Obamacare is implemented - heaven forbid- 30 million will STILL NOT HAVE INSURANCE, and continue to ignore that despite Obama's promises health care premiums are going UP
== and all your other little figments of your imagination that are too numerous to expound upon here.

Just remember, very few here take you seriously anymore. You do have your mutual admiration society of two with oh my, and maybe that is sufficient. But anytime you want to stop with the nonsense and actually participate in a reasoned discussion, I'm sure many of us will engage.
Isn't it a shame when some don't accept the "party line", and actually deal with reality ....

Even the Saudis admit publicly Bush protected the bin Laden family and cooperated with the Saudis - the folks who actually sponsored 09/11-

From an interview with the Saudi ambassador ..

... In the first days after the terror attacks on New York and Washington, Saudi Arabia supervised the urgent evacuation of 24 members of Osama bin Laden's extended family from the United States, fearing that they might be subjected to violence.

Most of Mr. bin Laden's relatives were attending high school and college.

The young members of the bin Laden clan were driven or flown under F.B.I. supervision to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington from where they left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks. Many were terrified, fearing they could be "lynched," after hearing news reports of sporadic violence against Muslims and Arab-Americans.

"It's a tragedy," said Prince Bandar. "The elders" of the students "came to see me, and one of them was a bright boy from Harvard who like the others had absolutely nothing to do with this and yet we had to tell him to go home and wait until the emotions calmed down. And he told me that he never really appreciated why the Japanese wanted a memorial or an apology for their treatment in World War II."

The student added, according to the prince, "I understand now that when you are innocent, in the face of emotion nothing, not even common sense, can help argue your case.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#19983 Jul 27, 2013
Where wrote:
"Mysterious hum driving people crazy around the world."
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/mysterious-hum...
Have no fear people, that's just IO humming his melee of Jargon aphasia.
It could be some type of scalar which produces ELF, extreme low frequencies. If you don't know anything about it, please refrain from trying to be cute by ridiculing me, as you will be showing your ignorance. Just get on the web and go to HAARP. BTW there is an official HAARP web site,which shows one site in Alaska.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#19984 Jul 27, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow
Another hard hitting, fact laden, persuasive, rational analysis.
No way my puny little post consisting of indisputable objective facts could withstand that withering assault.
Oh wait ...
Never mind...
When confronted with fact based rational analysis - the response, as usual, is just another Right Wing Wacko as hominem attack, that might be persuasive to a mentally challenged pet hamster.
I finally figured out that I am wasting my time when I take up my time looking up actual provable facts and you and your type just ignore them and pretend that they were never posted.
Aggie

Cartersville, GA

#19985 Jul 27, 2013
hate wrote:
How about giving Obama a 10 minute break, here is another black man for you so called Christian people to hate.
Archbishop Tutu would pick hell over an anti-gay heaven
2 hrs ago
Archbishop Desmond Tutu would rather go to hell than to a homophobic heaven. The iconic South African churchman hasn't lost any of the fire in his belly when it comes to freedom fighting, despite his retirement, and is still a vocal campaigner for gay equality in Africa. Speaking at the launch of a United Nations' gay rights campaign in Cape Town, Tutu said he "would not worship a God who is homophobic," adding that you could count him out of paradise if it had an anti-gay bias. "I would much rather go to the other place," he said. He went on to denounce any faith that discriminated against gay people.[Source]
Here we go again. Those of us who oppose Obama do so because his policies are disastrous for this country. We couldn't care less what the color of his skin is or is not. And as I am sure you are a big fan of CNN you need to follow their example - Obama isn't black, he is a white African American.
Informed Opinion

Fort Myers, FL

#19986 Jul 27, 2013
POLITICS
October 2003
THE WAR AT HOME
Saving the Saudis
Just days after 9/11, wealthy Saudi Arabians, including members of the bin Laden family, were whisked out of the U.S. on private jets. No one will admit to clearing the flights, and the passengers weren’t questioned. Did the Bush family’s long relationship with the Saudis help make it happen?
By Craig Unger

.... Gross up was told to go to the airport, where a small charter jet would be available to take him and the Saudis on their flight. He was dubious about the prospects of accomplishing his task.“Quite frankly, I knew that everything was grounded,” he says.“I never thought this was going to happen.” Even so, Grossi, who’d been asked to bring a colleague, phoned Mañuel Perez, a former F.B.I. agent, to put him on alert. Perez was equally unconvinced.“I said,‘Forget about it,’” Perez recalls.“‘Nobody is flying today.’”

The two men had good reason to be skeptical. Within minutes of the attacks on 9/11, the Federal Aviation Administration had sent out a special notification called a NOTAM—a notice to airmen—ordering every airborne plane in the United States to land at the nearest airport as soon as possible, and prohibiting planes on the ground from taking off. For the next two days, commercial and private aviation throughout the entire United States ceased. Former vice president Al Gore was stranded in Austria when his flight to the U.S. was canceled. Bill Clinton postponed travel as well. Major-league baseball games were called off. For the first time in a century, American skies were nearly as empty as they had been when the Wright brothers first flew at Kitty Hawk.

Nevertheless, at 1:30 or 2 p.m. on the 13th, Dan Grossi received his phone call. He was told the Saudis would be delivered to Raytheon Airport Services, a private hangar at Tampa International Airport.

When he and Perez met at the terminal, a woman laughed at Grossi for even thinking he would be flying that day. Commercial flights had slowly begun to resume, but at 10:57 A.M. the F.A.A. had issued another notice to airmen, a reminder that private aviation was still prohibited. Three private planes violated the ban that day, and in each case a pair of jet fighters quickly forced the aircraft down. As far as private planes were concerned, America was still grounded.“I was told it would take White House approval,” says Grossi.

Then one of the pilots arrived.“Here’s your plane,” he told Grossi.“Whenever you’re ready to go.”

Unbeknownst to Dan Grossi, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the 52-year-old Saudi Arabian ambassador to the United States, had been in Washington orchestrating the exodus of about 140 Saudis scattered throughout the country who were members of, or close to, two enormous families.

One was the House of Saud, the family that rules the Royal Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and that, owing to its vast oil reserves, is the richest family in the world.

The other was the ruling family’s friends and allies the bin Ladens, who, in addition to owning a multi-billion-dollar construction conglomerate, had spawned the notorious terrorist Osama bin Laden.

Thanks to the bin Ladens’ extremely close relationship with the House of Saud, the family’s huge construction company, the Saudi Binladin Group, had won contracts to restore the holy mosques in Mecca and Medina, two of the greatest icons in all of Islam.

And off they flew.

Glad I could help.

My posts aren't for Right Wing Wacko who are forced by their emotional blinders to avoid reality - they are intended to allow normal people to know there's no need to be intimidated by loud, but ill-informed wackos.

Until you want to deal in the real world- not the pretend RWW world - I'm happy to allow those with a affection for reality to view my posts, and comment or not, as they see fit.
Informed Opinion

Fort Myers, FL

#19987 Jul 27, 2013
Aggie wrote:
<quoted text>Here we go again. Those of us who oppose Obama do so because his policies are disastrous for this country. We couldn't care less what the color of his skin is or is not. And as I am sure you are a big fan of CNN you need to follow their example - Obama isn't black, he is a white African American.
Please identify three Obama policies that differs from Republican policy that is so "disastrous". If you can.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#19988 Jul 27, 2013
danger zone wrote:
<quoted text>
Surely he's shared his secrets with China & Russia. I don't see Putin bowing to Obama or Holder's request, even though they've promised to spare the death penalty. Greenwald made the statement to an Argentinean newspaper, "Snowden has enough information on the US government to cause more damage in one minute alone than any other person in US history". That's enough reason for the US to tread lightly, if true. I don't think Snowden's bluffing.
My guess is there isn't much if anything the Russians didn't already know about the NSA. What I hear is that the NSA has thousands of employees as well as private contractors that work on the data collection and spying. Between a spy here and there and Chinese computer hacking my guess is that the only people that didn't know what was going on was Americans.
Besides Snowden hasn't said anything that I haven't already read here and there over the last years. If you haven't heard any of this then you just haven't kept up.
So far as I know he just told the American public things which they should have already known but didn't. It is possible that he did actually give some real secrets away to another country, but I don't know that.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#19989 Jul 27, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice try, but you missed the target - again. Your principle weapons are hyperbole, projection and the much beloved straw man. Your so-called facts have been refuted time and time again with no evidence that the truth has penetrated your fog, so most of us just ignore you until the impulse hits to swat you down again.
But please, feel free to believe that:
== Bush (and the EVIL Cheney) allowed 9/11 to happen,
== that our military escorted the bin Laden family ,(by the way, do you realize how HUGE the bin Laden family is - that Osama was one of over 50 children by various wives of the father, that Osama's Saudi citizenship was REVOKED in 1993 because of his weapons smuggling - more inconvenient truths for you - are you responsible for the actions of EVERY member of your family?)
==that Obama is Right Wing - please keep saying this, it is hilarious
==that most of the debt cannot be laid at Democrats (most, not all, unfortunately we have a few too many Republicans that are too spineless to make hard fiscal decisions)
==that Obamacare is going to make healthcare more available and inexpensive - just ignore the CBO figures that after all Obamacare is implemented - heaven forbid- 30 million will STILL NOT HAVE INSURANCE, and continue to ignore that despite Obama's promises health care premiums are going UP
== and all your other little figments of your imagination that are too numerous to expound upon here.
Just remember, very few here take you seriously anymore. You do have your mutual admiration society of two with oh my, and maybe that is sufficient. But anytime you want to stop with the nonsense and actually participate in a reasoned discussion, I'm sure many of us will engage.
Yeah, you can see through IO just like a super clean plate glass window.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#19990 Jul 27, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Isn't it a shame when some don't accept the "party line", and actually deal with reality ....
Even the Saudis admit publicly Bush protected the bin Laden family and cooperated with the Saudis - the folks who actually sponsored 09/11-
From an interview with the Saudi ambassador ..
... In the first days after the terror attacks on New York and Washington, Saudi Arabia supervised the urgent evacuation of 24 members of Osama bin Laden's extended family from the United States, fearing that they might be subjected to violence.
Most of Mr. bin Laden's relatives were attending high school and college.
The young members of the bin Laden clan were driven or flown under F.B.I. supervision to a secret assembly point in Texas and then to Washington from where they left the country on a private charter plane when airports reopened three days after the attacks. Many were terrified, fearing they could be "lynched," after hearing news reports of sporadic violence against Muslims and Arab-Americans.
"It's a tragedy," said Prince Bandar. "The elders" of the students "came to see me, and one of them was a bright boy from Harvard who like the others had absolutely nothing to do with this and yet we had to tell him to go home and wait until the emotions calmed down. And he told me that he never really appreciated why the Japanese wanted a memorial or an apology for their treatment in World War II."
The student added, according to the prince, "I understand now that when you are innocent, in the face of emotion nothing, not even common sense, can help argue your case.
Surprise, surprise, you are missing the key points in the very quotations you gave. The family members were "driven or flown UNDER FBI SUPERVISION" yes, supervised AND QUESTIONED and allowed to leave as there was no evidence of their involvement. Unlike what your post said (though the information was in the same article you pulled your info from), the planes were chartered by the Saudi government and were allowed to leave only after all airports were reopened and the bin Laden family members were questioned. The article also noted that Osama bin Laden "is estranged" from his family. And as I stated earlier, his citizenship was revoked because of his weapons smuggling.

"As thousands of Americans were recoiling from the Sept. 11 terror attacks, Saudi Arabia's ambassador,..., faced another kind of horror: America's staunchest ally in the Arab world was more prominently associated than ever before with Mr. bin Laden. In addition, a majority of the men who hijacked four airliners in the attacks carried Saudi passports.

"This is the worst thing that has ever happened to us," the prince told associates as the first images of the collapsing towers in New York registered the magnitude of the crime.

This dark prediction may or may not prove to be true. But Prince Bandar, who is enthusiastically pro- American, kicked into high diplomatic gear this week with a series of public appearances to bolster the image of Arab support for President Bush's coalition against terrorism."
=======
So while I congratulate you on actually attempting to use factual information instead of baseless attacks, you need to use facts which actually support your position - this was a fail, sorry.
Informed Opinion

Fort Myers, FL

#19991 Jul 27, 2013
....The fiscal 2001 budget surplus was projected at $256 billion, White House officials said. The fiscal 2000 surplus was $237 billion, officials said, which capped four straight years of budget surpluses.

vs.

... The deficit for fiscal year 2009 — which began almost four months before President Obama took office — was $1.4 trillion and, at 10 percent of Gross Domestic Product (GDP), marked the largest deficit relative to the economy since the end of World War II.

Oh wait...

Let's see ... again posted proof Right Wing Wacko Bush sent bin Laden's family to safety to avoid any of that nasty detention, and torture we reserve for poor and unconnected terrorists.

and

now again posted proof of the budget surplus Right Wing Wacko Administration inherited - and that they turned it into a $1.4 Trillion Dollar annual deficit - not counting the $6 Trillion Dollar war debts.

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