Who do you support for U.S. Senate in...
OMTE

Rimersburg, PA

#17528 Jul 7, 2013
Oh my wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you support drone strikes in a foreign country to deal with a terrorist threat?
On foreign terrorists, Yes. On American citizens in a foreign country, No. I would prefer the use of drones to be limited to intelligence gathering all together. I believe it's really just not the American way to kill innocent people, just because they're live near a terrorist. Only in the movies do we shoot through the victim to get to the bad guy, because in real life the good guys used to have morals.
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17529 Jul 7, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post.
My experience is similar.
But wait to be attacked because reality plays no role in our Right Wing friends' determinations.
Ask them how many countries with government run single payor health care have reverted to the American system ...(Answer -None).
Apparently government run/single payor health care is very popular in the countries that have adopted it - which is the entire industrialized world,(except us).

Exaggeration is typical of those who do no research. BTW, you forgot to blame the 2 clones.

The socialist countries you mentioned have 3 different plans of socialized medicine.

Single Payer, Two-Tier, and Insurance Mandate.

You will notice at the link I give, there are a number of big player countries NOT listed.

You will also notice many of the countries listed are way over their head in debt, just like America. The UK already has cut back billions for health care, guess Who's going to pay for the cuts? Individuals who want health care.

Socialized medicine is nothing more than Government control of health care and any sensible person knows government wastes $10 for every dollar spent, your money.

I would rather spend my money with insurance companies, knowing I'm getting good health care, than with the government who wastes it.




Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17530 Jul 7, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Great.
Let's immediately shut down Medicare, Medicare Part D, and throw those old farts our of the nursing homes occupying those Medicaid beds.
After all- we can't have that Socialist Medicine and worship the God of Unregulated Capitalism.

And while we are at it, let's eliminate all government employees retirement plans. Why? Because they don't deserve it. Bunch of free-loaders.
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17531 Jul 7, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
At least it's entertaining to watch those enjoying socialist Medicare, Medicare Part D drugs, Medicaid nursing home beds for their parents, V.A. Medical benefits, and Tri-Care for themselves or their families complain about Socialist government run health care.
Either they cannot grasp the hypocrisy, or are simply greedy they just don't want to share. We'll let them chose- are they ignorant or just selfish.

What's really entertaining is watching socialist commies keep banging their heads against common sense and keep coming up on the losing end.


Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17532 Jul 7, 2013
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17533 Jul 7, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>On foreign terrorists, Yes. On American citizens in a foreign country, No. I would prefer the use of drones to be limited to intelligence gathering all together. I believe it's really just not the American way to kill innocent people, just because they're live near a terrorist. Only in the movies do we shoot through the victim to get to the bad guy, because in real life the good guys used to have morals.

And wore white hats.
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17534 Jul 7, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Let's see..
There is a clearly worded, factually supported, objective analysis that demonstrates that, for all practical purposes, Bush and Obama are clones...
and you perceive it as an attack on Bush.
Perhaps you should re-evaluate who has the obsession with Bush- as you seem to be way too defensive.
But hey... thanks for agreeing with the substance of the post, glad to see you accept Bush and Obama are Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum when it comes to the things that matter.
and

If I remember correctly, you used to be a big supported of Obama. But after reading supporting documentation about Obama's failures posted by conservatives, you have made a turn around and now classify him with Bush.
Typical hypocritical socialist ploy to try and fool conservatives into believing you have common sense. A Thomas Paine you are not.
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17535 Jul 7, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Great post.
Those shiny objects just keep the Right Wingers and the Left Wingers completely transfixed.
All the reactionaries have to do is mention abortion, gun, or gays, and the Right Wing and Left Wing take their attention completely off the "money and power" issues.
Imagine, a "secret" court interpreting law and issuing warrants; a president who claims the right to assassinate your child, and a tax policy that has resulted in more income equality in Belarus than in the United States; and the battle is over whether you can have a 30 round magazine or a 10 round magazine in your AR-15A2.
Hopefully, we cone to our senses before our children or grandchildren hate is for surrendering their freedoms and their quality of life while we bicker over silly "shiny objects."

You two are a pair, WEALTH ENVY. To y'all, it's all about money, money, money. Which equals greed, greed, greed.

For a person who has lived of tax dollars all of your life, I would expect nothing less.


OMTE

Rimersburg, PA

#17536 Jul 7, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
And wore white hats.
They sure did.
Scott

Hudson, OH

#17537 Jul 7, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
If I remember correctly, you used to be a big supported of Obama. But after reading supporting documentation about Obama's failures posted by conservatives, you have made a turn around and now classify him with Bush.
Typical hypocritical socialist ploy to try and fool conservatives into believing you have common sense. A Thomas Paine you are not.
By comparing Obama to Bush, I.O. has found a way a way to show the ultimate insult to Bush. My friends in Finland, Russia, Germany and Peck, Kansas all think I.O. is a pain but, not a Thomas Paine.
OMTE

Rimersburg, PA

#17538 Jul 7, 2013
Scott wrote:
<quoted text>
By comparing Obama to Bush, I.O. has found a way a way to show the ultimate insult to Bush. My friends in Finland, Russia, Germany and Peck, Kansas all think I.O. is a pain but, not a Thomas Paine.
You obviously haven't been followin this thread from the beginning. IO has always said that Obama was only the slightly less evil version of Bush. Bush's stupidity and greed can't be compared to anyone, as he was the worst President ever.
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17539 Jul 7, 2013
Scott wrote:
<quoted text>
By comparing Obama to Bush, I.O. has found a way a way to show the ultimate insult to Bush. My friends in Finland, Russia, Germany and Peck, Kansas all think I.O. is a pain but, not a Thomas Paine.

LOL, your friends outrank his friends.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17540 Jul 7, 2013
Informed Opinion wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama is so far to the right he nudges Bush.
Lets see...
- Bush started the idiotic Iraq War ... Obama still has troops there;
- Bush started bombing civilians with drones...Obama still does and has killed dozens more than Bush;
- Bush started that War Crime called Guantanamo...Obama keeps it open(
- Bush started subcontracting illegal killing to mercenaries... Obama maintains the same policy;
- Bush secretly assassinated Americans he claimed were "enemy combatants" in some idiotically described "war", on a "battlefield" that includes Sheboygan, Wisconsin and Little Rock, Arkansas...Obama claims the same "authority";
- Bush replaced U.S. Attorneys with Right Wing Wackos... Obama kept 'em;
- Bush turned the country's economy over to Wall Street Banksters... Obama did the same thing;
- Bush allowed the Bankters to steal trillions from Americans, destroy the economy, make millions homeless, and collect bonuses for their traitorous doings...Obama refused to prosecute the Banksters, letting them keep the money and avoid prison;
- Bush pursued "Whistleblowers" who told Americans of their governments crimes and misconduct...Obama prosecutes 5X more Whistleblowers than Bush;
- Bush trampled on the international rights sovereign nations...Obama just forced down a foreign president's official plane,(imagine if Air Force One was forced down and searched);
- Bush took millions from corporations that paid to avoid regulations...Obama has taken more;
and on and on.
Obama, like all Right Wingers, likes to talk about gays and guns, but, like all Right Wingers, he knows what's important and it's called m.o.n.e.y. and p.o.w.e.r.
Gays and guns are around just to be distracting shiny objects to fascinate the masses while the money and power is deposited in the 0.5%.
If Obama is next to Bush on the far right, then why don't you write about all of the Obama failures, lies and mistakes instead of Bush? Obama is and has been the president for the last 4 1/2 years.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17541 Jul 7, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
And wore white hats.
Any U.S.drone strike in any country is an act of war. Wouldn't the U.S. go to war with a country that attacked anything in our country with a drone? I see no difference between a drone attack and a fighter or bomber aircraft attacking.
Any act of war should be kept in a war zone.
OMTE

Rimersburg, PA

#17542 Jul 7, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
<quoted text>
If Obama is next to Bush on the far right, then why don't you write about all of the Obama failures, lies and mistakes instead of Bush? Obama is and has been the president for the last 4 1/2 years.
Not to butt in, but he has. He mainly asked why are you guys so mad now at Obama for doing the same thing's Bush did. I don't understand why you guys hate Obama myself. He is not nearly as bad as Bush.(IMO) It makes one tend to believe you hate him, because of his skin color.(IMO) IO goes around his elbow to get to a$$ most of the time, is his main problem. LoL.(IMO)
Scott

Hudson, OH

#17543 Jul 7, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>You obviously haven't been followin this thread from the beginning. IO has always said that Obama was only the slightly less evil version of Bush. Bush's stupidity and greed can't be compared to anyone, as he was the worst President ever.
You are right. I haven't followed this thread from the beginning.
I think when this thread started, I was still riding my big wheel down to the corner market to buy bubble gum.
OMTE

Rimersburg, PA

#17544 Jul 7, 2013
I used to think Obama wasn't as bad as Bush, because he hasn't started any unnecessary wars. I am starting to think I was wrong, because if he gives our country away to illegal criminal immigrants, then war is imminent. Only this time it will be on our soil. So Obama is headed toward being the worst president ever in a hurry.(IMO):(

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#17545 Jul 7, 2013
Perhaps OMTE has questions about me, maybe not. I can't answer for IO. Perhaps IO will give a similar statement. This is only to clear the air about myself and why I feel the way I do.Remember I am a conservative but I am not a Republican, although I have voted Republican before. I do not speak for other conservatives on this site.
IMO Bush was a terrible president. He was just another RINO that the people voted in thinking he was a conservative Republican. He was neither. Bush had many liberal ideas such as supporting the immigration bill as he is doing now. He didn't keep a close eye on our economy as he should have and looks to have made deals with Wall St. buddies. He allowed the Patriot Act to be passed and look what that has done to us.
Obama has taken over where he left off. The EPA under the Obama Administration is actually killing off industries and jobs. His misuse, in my opinion, of our military powers are evident. His use of the NSA and the IRS seem to be in question. He seems to too busy making political speeches and taking vacations, and trips instead of spending time actually guiding us out of this economic depression. If he were trying to hurt this economy he couldn't be doing a better job.
He seems either totally incompetent or is the biggest liar there ever was concerning all the scandals. He says he knows nothing about all of them. It is his job to know about them and to find out what is going on. Then he should take some real action not just words and continue to ignore them.
I don't hate the man. I just do not think he is the man to be President.
Bush was white and I didn't like him as president. Obama is half white and half black, which makes him bi-racial, and I don't like him as president. If there were an actual Black man or women as president and they did a performed badly, I still wouldn't approve of them.
The skin color doesn't bother me but the piss poor job that they do does bother me. I also don't like their Socialistic/Communist thoughts, ways and actions that they are trying to push on this country.
Perhaps OI could enlighten us to his real thoughts and feelings unless he has something to hide. Lets just see where he really stands and if he has enough guts to put it out there instead of yelling Bush this, and Bush that.If he doesn't then all of his future post mean nothing. Just a bunch of words.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#17546 Jul 7, 2013
^^^^^^ Well said, BigDave.
Who

Dahlonega, GA

#17547 Jul 7, 2013
Commonality among most Americans:

Against oppression by government.

Fair taxation with fair representation.
Just laws applied to all.

Fair voting laws.

Proper Immigration under the laws that exist.

Property rights equal for all without government seizure.

The right to express one's opinion without government political correctness.

And many others that anyone can apply that includes common sense and fairness.


Main reasons for disagreements:

Misunderstanding of others point of view caused by the inability to verbalize one's point of view.

Citizens who expect others to be responsible for their actions, their livelihood, their healthcare, and their general well being.

Dogmatic viewpoints that exclude common sense.

Taking the lives of the innocents outside the bounds of decency, need, and based on selfishness.

Recognizing marriage of same sex people, which questions common logic, sense, and expectation that all peoples should approve.


And many others that anyone can apply that includes common sense and fairness.


(Common sense and Fairness) Common sense being sound practical judgment independent of specialized knowledge or training; normal native intelligence.

Fairness being evenhandedness, equitable, not inclined to injustice.



Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Kingsland Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Sen Gillibrand needs to resign 41 min Blue Dress Blues 2
Congress Tax Funded Sex Abuse Slush Fund 3 hr Swamp People 1
Basketball players kept in China 4 hr John 8
Fusion GPS Bank Records Show Russia-Related Pay... 4 hr John 6
Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) who would have thou... 4 hr Larry 7
"This is a lawless administration" 5 hr help us 4
Melissa Boswell Weddings (Jan '10) 11 hr Concerned Citizen 45

Kingsland Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Kingsland Mortgages