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OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#16170 Jun 22, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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I think I liked you better when you didn't post.
Is this you or me? LoL.
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#16171 Jun 22, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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Lack of class can be VERY evident without using strong language.
BTW - Why did you steal the Jus' Sayin' tagline that I used to use from me? I gave it up after about a week because I decided it was too stupid and repetitive. Maybe you like stupid and repetitive. Your constant use of "clueless and uneducated" "libroid" "liberace" would be evidence of that, as well as you can have an utter lack of class without cursing.
What are your views on immigration or did you come on here just to fuss will Bill?

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#16172 Jun 22, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>Is this you or me? LoL.
OR both? LOL

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#16173 Jun 22, 2013
Oh my wrote:
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Black Theology of Liberation
By James H. Cone
http://books.google.com/books...
I have read the preface and the first 18 pages, I cannot pull up any more (apparently the preview function limits the number of sections available), but within these first 18 pages Cone defines what Black Liberation Theology means to him.
As far as I'm concerned both the Preface and the 18 pages that I was able to preview, and the links that I referenced here ( http://www.topix.com/forum/city/blairsville-g... ) do provide enough context for me to say that the quotes that you find so offensive are presented out-of-context.
I still find it interesting that when you were pressed to provide a source to establish context you were unable to do so, and instead provded a link to a page full of quotes (see soadahead below) that were pulled out of context.
Obviously you see things differently and will continue to do so regardless of anything I present, but what you fail to realize is that I don't care that you are not persauded, it's not about changing your mind.
.....
I truly find myself stunned that you could read what you say you did and not come away with a recognition of the perversion of the Gospel that Cone presents. From his opening statement he redefines what "theology" is in order to make his argument. That is positively Orwellian - and Cone does it repeatedly.

"Theology"
-Merriam-Webster
: the study of religious faith, practice, and experience; especially : the study of God and of God's relation to the world

Cone, A Black Theology of Liberation
Preface to the 1986 Edition
"Theology is not universal language about God. Rather, it is human speech informed by historical and theological traditions, and written for particular times and places. Theology is contextual language - that is, defined by the human situation that gives birth to it. No one can write theology for all times, places, and persons.

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Then when he discusses how he will not debate white theologians:
"White theologians wanted me to debate with them about the question of whether "black theology" was real theology, using their criteria to decide the issue. With clever theological sophistication, white theologians define the discipline of theology in the light of the problem of the unbeliever (i.e. the question of the relationship of faith and reason) and thus unrelated to the problem of slavery and racism. Using a white definition of theology, I knew there was no way I could win the debate."
page xvii

"using a white definition" - since when are there different definitions of a word depending on your race?

"Racism is a disease that perverts one's moral sensitivity and distorts the intellect."
page xviii of the 1986 Preface

Is the irony of that completely lost on you?

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I WAS hoping to change your mind. I was hoping that your arguing with my questioning of Cone's theology was just a knee jerk support of someone on the Left and that with a little information you would realize you should stop. There are discussions I do not get into on this forum because I either realize I just don't know enough about the subject or I realize I am conflicted on the subject - so best to stay out of it.
OMTE

Fitzgerald, GA

#16174 Jun 22, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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OR both? LOL
HaHa. Syn. You so dang funny.:)

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#16175 Jun 22, 2013
If this topic is of any interest to anyone else, below is the first page of Cone's preface to "A Black Theology of LIberation", 1970 Edition

"The reader is entitled to know what to expect in this book. It is my contention that Christiantiy is essentially a religion of liberation. The function of theology is that of analyzing the meaning of that liberation for the oppressed so they can know that their struggle for political, social and economic justice is consistent with the gospel of Jesus Christ. Any message that is not related to the liberation of the poor in a society is not Christ's message. Any theology that is indifferent to the theme of liberation is not Christian theology.
In a society where persons are oppressed because they are black, Christian theology must become black theology, a theology that is unreservedly identified with the goals of the oppressed and seeks to interpret the divine character of their struggle for liberation. "Black theology" is a phrase that is particularly appropriate for contemporary America because of its symbolic power to convey both what whites mean by oppression and what blacks mean by liberation. However, I am convinced that the patterns of meaning centered in the idea of black theology are by no means restricted to the American scene, for blackness symbolizes oppression and liberation in any society.
It will be evident, therefore, that this book is written primarily for the black community, not for whites. Whites may read it and to some degree render an intellectual analysis of it, but an authentic understanding is dependent on the blackness of their existence in the world. There will be no peace in America until whites begin to hate their whiteness, asking from the depths of their being: "How can we become black?" I hope that if enough whites begin to ask this question, this country will no longer be divided on the basis of color. But until then, it is the task of the Christian theologian to do theology in the light of the concreteness of human oppression as expressed in color, and to interpret for the oppressed the meaning of God's liberation in their community."
memememe

Fitzgerald, GA

#16176 Jun 22, 2013
Republicans all the way!
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16177 Jun 22, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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+1 well stated.
Yep, the (lack of) class will ultimately show up, just give it a little time. Recent examples below:
"jerk yo-self off chithead!"
"GFY, and your chiteatin' dog, too."
"Btw, GFY,too. And do you have a dog? jus sayin'"
Does anyone know where I can get some of the "Mr. Bill" skits from SNL- that would most amusing !

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

Location hidden

#16178 Jun 22, 2013
OMTE wrote:
<quoted text>HaHa. Syn. You so dang funny.:)
HaHa Glad y'all think so.
alpha soda Mansell road

Alpharetta, GA

#16179 Jun 22, 2013
ChicknButt wrote:
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I think I liked you better when you didn't post.
You think? Funny one. I never like or read your posts but I read most others. You're dumb as a crate of rocks and bully too much. Must be Napoleon complex.
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16180 Jun 22, 2013
alpha soda Mansell road wrote:
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You think? Funny one. I never like or read your posts but I read most others. You're dumb as a crate of rocks and bully too much. Must be Napoleon complex.
"Napoleon Complex" ain't that the one where shorter people feel inferior to taller ones- nother goodun!!(altho, being 6ft.5ins.- I kinda like it!
What

Toccoa, GA

#16181 Jun 22, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
If this topic is of any interest to anyone else, below is the first page of Cone's preface to "A Black Theology of LIberation", 1970 Edition
"The reader is entitled to know what to expect in this book. It is my contention that Christiantiy is essentially a religion of liberation.

I need go no further than the "religion of liberation."

This tells me Cone has religion and social justice mixed up in his head.
Nothing could be further from the truth, i.e. "Christianity is the redemption and salvation of souls."


jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16182 Jun 22, 2013
What wrote:
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I need go no further than the "religion of liberation."
This tells me Cone has religion and social justice mixed up in his head.
Nothing could be further from the truth, i.e. "Christianity is the redemption and salvation of souls."
DO you do this kinda stuff for a living, or is it just a pastime????
What

Toccoa, GA

#16183 Jun 22, 2013
jeb stuart wrote:
<quoted text>DO you do this kinda stuff for a living, or is it just a pastime????
Do you contribute in real life? Or is your life off topix lived in a daze?

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#16184 Jun 22, 2013
What has happened to this forum? It used to be interesting and a person could actually get information on what is going on. We had debates, pro and con, which could be spirited. We had ideas and different thoughts. It was thought provoking. It was fun.
Now it has become nothing but trash talk. No ideas, just which person can out trash talk another person. It isn't cute anymore and is juvenile.
I wonder which poster will be the first to inform me to just go away, with some new trash talk. Let me guess---hummm.
I always said if the shoe fits, wear it.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#16185 Jun 22, 2013
Well here is an interesting article as well as a very well done news cast video.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...

The rich and powerful want these illegals in this county given amnesty. Cheap labor which drives wages down. The others want to squander the billions of dollars in money that will be allotted for border security.
Simple fix. Make sure employers do not hire illegals. If they do they will get a large fine for each illegal employee that is found working for them. A reward would be given to each person in the general public for each employer turned in and found guilty for such violations.
Employers would stop hiring them.
Also no illegals would be eligible for free medical care, food stamps, housing or any type of government benefits.
The illegal alien problem would then be solved as they would return to their own country where they belong. That doesn't mean that we don't defend our borders against people that wish to enter illegally. Drug smugglers and terrorist are also on that list.
This would immediately free up 8 million American jobs. These are figures given by the government. It would also help raise the pay of every American. It would also save the state, local, and federal governments billions of dollars that are being spent on these people at this time.
Temporary guest workers would be allowed in and people that wanted to come to this country could do so by normal lawful means.
If you guys have more or better ideas then post them.
What

Toccoa, GA

#16186 Jun 22, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
What has happened to this forum? It used to be interesting and a person could actually get information on what is going on. We had debates, pro and con, which could be spirited. We had ideas and different thoughts. It was thought provoking. It was fun.
Now it has become nothing but trash talk. No ideas, just which person can out trash talk another person. It isn't cute anymore and is juvenile.
I wonder which poster will be the first to inform me to just go away, with some new trash talk. Let me guess---hummm.
I always said if the shoe fits, wear it.

Has it really changed??

It took 2 years and 5 months for this
thread to reach 225 pages.

It's taken only 3 months to go from page 225 to
the present page of 774. That's one page short
of 550 pages in just 3 months.

A copy of a post from Dec 18,2012 for reference.

Dec 18, 2012


Chicknbutt wrote:
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In YOUR poorly formed opinion. But WHAT IF YOU"RE WRONG??? HUH?>?
WHAT THEN??? Oh NOES!!!!

Synergy responds,

You offered NOTHING of substance. Just insults. I rest my case.
(See how you dish it, but you don't want to take it.
This post is a PRIME example.)

You STILL never answered that question even though it was asked
of you several times. Typical.

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#16187 Jun 22, 2013
Bigdave1 wrote:
Well here is an interesting article as well as a very well done news cast video.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/...
The rich and powerful want these illegals in this county given amnesty. Cheap labor which drives wages down. The others want to squander the billions of dollars in money that will be allotted for border security.
Simple fix. Make sure employers do not hire illegals. If they do they will get a large fine for each illegal employee that is found working for them. A reward would be given to each person in the general public for each employer turned in and found guilty for such violations.
Employers would stop hiring them.
Also no illegals would be eligible for free medical care, food stamps, housing or any type of government benefits.
The illegal alien problem would then be solved as they would return to their own country where they belong. That doesn't mean that we don't defend our borders against people that wish to enter illegally. Drug smugglers and terrorist are also on that list.
This would immediately free up 8 million American jobs. These are figures given by the government. It would also help raise the pay of every American. It would also save the state, local, and federal governments billions of dollars that are being spent on these people at this time.
Temporary guest workers would be allowed in and people that wanted to come to this country could do so by normal lawful means.
If you guys have more or better ideas then post them.
My only thought on immigration is that any bill that does not first secure the border is nothing but smoke and mirrors to grant amnesty. I do not know if the Cornyn amendment was the answer - fully operational E-verify, quantifiable goals for the border, 90% apprehension rate, etc. But it at least demanded border security before any legalization began. That of course got killed.
The amendment your link referenced is worthless, as was noted.

If Republicans would simply demand true border security first before consideration of any immigration reform, then we would know they were serious. But as long as you have the likes of McCain and Graham with their wishy-washy RINO mentalities to lead the charge to caving in, we're sunk in the Senate. And at this time, Rubio has destroyed any credibility he had with me to be a true conservative.

As I referenced earlier, the CBO has reported that if the immigration bill passes as is, illegal immigration will be reduced at most 25%- how does that come any where near solving the problem - answer - it doesn't. Frankly, it isn't intended to IMHO.

Secure the border first - after all, that 700 mile double fence that was already passed and paid for currently stands at 36 miles completed - that is how committed to border security this administration is. And what about the Senate - an amendment that would have required that half that fence be completed before any legalization occurred was also killed in the Senate. I repeat, an amendment that would have merely required that half of a fence be completed before legalization -that has already been voted on, passed and had money allocated for - was DEFEATED in the Senate - with the help of our little Republicans - McCain, Graham, Rubio, Flake and Murkowski.
jeb stuart

Cordele, GA

#16188 Jun 22, 2013
What wrote:
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Do you contribute in real life? Or is your life off topix lived in a daze?
are you trying to invite me to something? Sorry, but I am spoken for. Besides, do you contribute anywhere, to anything.

Since: Jul 12

Douglasville, GA

#16189 Jun 22, 2013
Aggie23 wrote:
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My only thought on immigration is that any bill that does not first secure the border is nothing but smoke and mirrors to grant amnesty. I do not know if the Cornyn amendment was the answer - fully operational E-verify, quantifiable goals for the border, 90% apprehension rate, etc. But it at least demanded border security before any legalization began. That of course got killed.
The amendment your link referenced is worthless, as was noted.
If Republicans would simply demand true border security first before consideration of any immigration reform, then we would know they were serious. But as long as you have the likes of McCain and Graham with their wishy-washy RINO mentalities to lead the charge to caving in, we're sunk in the Senate. And at this time, Rubio has destroyed any credibility he had with me to be a true conservative.
As I referenced earlier, the CBO has reported that if the immigration bill passes as is, illegal immigration will be reduced at most 25%- how does that come any where near solving the problem - answer - it doesn't. Frankly, it isn't intended to IMHO.
Secure the border first - after all, that 700 mile double fence that was already passed and paid for currently stands at 36 miles completed - that is how committed to border security this administration is. And what about the Senate - an amendment that would have required that half that fence be completed before any legalization occurred was also killed in the Senate. I repeat, an amendment that would have merely required that half of a fence be completed before legalization -that has already been voted on, passed and had money allocated for - was DEFEATED in the Senate - with the help of our little Republicans - McCain, Graham, Rubio, Flake and Murkowski.
Your for a bill if the borders are secured. Our borders should already be secured regardless. Border security is just another talking point to confuse the American people and the whole immigration issue. Well that is never going to happen and you know it. The only way to defuse the whole thing is to force the government to obey the laws on the books now. We need to start all over and not allow Illegal aliens to take American jobs or American government benefits.
The illegals that are now here are criminals as they purposely entered this country illegally. It is said that they just wanted a better life and to have some wealth. Well so does a bank robber. They are both criminals. People will say that the illegals just want to feed their poor family. Well so do some bank robbers. Would it be less of a crime if the robber robbed a Seven Eleven convenience store instead of a bank? It is still a crime.
The government has been using the 11 million illegal alien numbers for the last 20 years. Anyone with common sense knows that these figures are not true. There have been many reports of late that say 30 to 40 million illegal aliens are now in this country.
All this immigration bill is for is to make 30 to 40 million illegal aliens legal. Why not be honest about it and just say that? If the politicians did,they know the public would not approve of it
I am against any immigration bill and want these illegal aliens to go back to their country and enter the United States legally and abide by the U.S. immigration laws. They are no better than any other person from any other country in the world that wishes to become a U.S. citizen. Many are Mexican and other Latin American countries but there are also people from many other countries here illegally. Makes no difference to me.
Politicians need to quit sugar coating the whole issue and stop acting like they are trying to help the poor down trodden. They are helping themselves and big business.

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