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#2728 Jan 29, 2013
The Jokes on You wrote:
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Here's something I'd like to ask you.
Since you and others say that because income tax loopholes exist and are legal that you should take advantage of them. Not just some of them, but all of the tax breaks that are available.(Heck, that's the American way, you'd say - it's legal, after all.)
OK, so what if all the people out there who are actually eligible for welfare, food stamps, etc. were to think like you do. I mean, heck, it's legal to get food stamps if your income is below a certain threshold, so why not.. Welfare? Heck Yeah.
Yet, I know numerous people - myself included at this unfortunate turn of events in my life - who DO NOT choose to go on welfare. We do not choose to accept food stamps. Why? Because we have ethics and morality. We know that welfare and food stamps are for those who are truly in need. Yet, the government says it's legal for us to have that assistance.
So why is that all of the rich people out there will take ANY deduction they can, acting as if it's a virtual civic duty to milk the system?(hey, it's legal, you say) Is it moral or ethical to do these things? Legal, maybe, but ethical?
Somewhat interesting post, but too much of a "straw man" argument.

"Since you and others say that because income tax loopholes exist and are legal that you should take advantage of them. Not just some of them, but all of the tax breaks that are available."

Ponder this:

Why would someone pay any more in taxes than they're legally required to pay? Are you faulting someone for not paying more than required? Do you pay more than required at the grocery store? A restaurant? On YOUR taxes?

BTW, can you explain the difference between a loophole and a tax deduction?

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#2729 Jan 29, 2013
Man wrote:
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Well, you could take a look at their well-regarded research ...
Well, that depends on who is doing the regarding now doesn't it?

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#2730 Jan 29, 2013
Man wrote:
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Well, you are wrong.
You haven't heard the left wing mantra: Evil Rich, Evil Rich, Evil Rich???????
The Jokes on You

Blairsville, GA

#2731 Jan 29, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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Somewhat interesting post, but too much of a "straw man" argument.
"Since you and others say that because income tax loopholes exist and are legal that you should take advantage of them. Not just some of them, but all of the tax breaks that are available."
Ponder this:
Why would someone pay any more in taxes than they're legally required to pay? Are you faulting someone for not paying more than required? Do you pay more than required at the grocery store? A restaurant? On YOUR taxes?
BTW, can you explain the difference between a loophole and a tax deduction?
I figured you wouldn't answer the questions. But, then, you really don't have to, do you? We all know the answer.

But I do give you credit where it's due. You would make a fabulous spin man - perhaps you should go into politics. Your ethics and morality would be just perfect.

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#2732 Jan 29, 2013
The Jokes on You wrote:
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Here's something I'd like to ask you.
Since you and others say that because income tax loopholes exist and are legal that you should take advantage of them. Not just some of them, but all of the tax breaks that are available.(Heck, that's the American way, you'd say - it's legal, after all.)
OK, so what if all the people out there who are actually eligible for welfare, food stamps, etc. were to think like you do. I mean, heck, it's legal to get food stamps if your income is below a certain threshold, so why not.. Welfare? Heck Yeah.
Yet, I know numerous people - myself included at this unfortunate turn of events in my life - who DO NOT choose to go on welfare. We do not choose to accept food stamps. Why? Because we have ethics and morality. We know that welfare and food stamps are for those who are truly in need. Yet, the government says it's legal for us to have that assistance.
So why is that all of the rich people out there will take ANY deduction they can, acting as if it's a virtual civic duty to milk the system?(hey, it's legal, you say) Is it moral or ethical to do these things? Legal, maybe, but ethical?
It's human nature to try to protect what you have worked for. Why is it only the "rich" who should look at it from a moral standpoint? When is the last time you've asked someone gaming the welfare system how they felt morally about that? See the problem here? YOU are expecting the rich to feel quilty over money they have earned and want to protect, however, you aren't expecting those who are able bodied and capable of working to feel quilty because they are gaming and making it difficult for those who really need and deserve the help. It's that old liberal double standard. If someone has worked and earned their money, what is immoral about protecting it as long as they aren't breaking the law? If you qualify for food stamps, etc.and choose not to take them, I admire you for your pride and productivity, however, if you truly need help, you should take it. That is what it is for. Liberals are always exclaiming, "It's not fair". Well, it's not fair to expect the producers to feel quilty, but not the welfare system gamers. Where is your outrage about that?
C Dundee

Dahlonega, GA

#2733 Jan 29, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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Somewhat interesting post, but too much of a "straw man" argument.
"Since you and others say that because income tax loopholes exist and are legal that you should take advantage of them. Not just some of them, but all of the tax breaks that are available."
Ponder this:
Why would someone pay any more in taxes than they're legally required to pay? Are you faulting someone for not paying more than required? Do you pay more than required at the grocery store? A restaurant? On YOUR taxes?
BTW, can you explain the difference between a loophole and a tax deduction?
"Straw Man" Sure, whatever man. You have got to be the most arrogant person i've ever read on here. Just full of yourself or something else.

It's people like you who get away with paying less taxes than the average man because of capital gains tax rates and other bullsh-t.

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#2734 Jan 29, 2013
The Jokes on You wrote:
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I figured you wouldn't answer the questions. But, then, you really don't have to, do you? We all know the answer.
But I do give you credit where it's due. You would make a fabulous spin man - perhaps you should go into politics. Your ethics and morality would be just perfect.
Why should I answer questions when you can't and don't?

Typical of the clueless and uneducated...
The Jokes on You

Blairsville, GA

#2735 Jan 29, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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It's human nature to try to protect what you have worked for. Why is it only the "rich" who should look at it from a moral standpoint? When is the last time you've asked someone gaming the welfare system how they felt morally about that? See the problem here? YOU are expecting the rich to feel quilty over money they have earned and want to protect, however, you aren't expecting those who are able bodied and capable of working to feel quilty because they are gaming and making it difficult for those who really need and deserve the help. It's that old liberal double standard. If someone has worked and earned their money, what is immoral about protecting it as long as they aren't breaking the law? If you qualify for food stamps, etc.and choose not to take them, I admire you for your pride and productivity, however, if you truly need help, you should take it. That is what it is for. Liberals are always exclaiming, "It's not fair". Well, it's not fair to expect the producers to feel quilty, but not the welfare system gamers. Where is your outrage about that?
Oh, now you're physic, are you?

I assure you, I have NEVER been easy on anyone who I know is "gaming" the system when it comes to welfare, food stamps, etc. And yes, I have asked at least one person how they think it's moral or ethical to get welfare when they're able to work. Other than that one person, I don't personally know anyone else who is milking the welfare system. However, I do know a number of people who cheat on their taxes, set up businesses to lose money for tax write offs, etc.
The Jokes on You

Blairsville, GA

#2736 Jan 29, 2013
Bill in Dville wrote:
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Why should I answer questions when you can't and don't?
Typical of the clueless and uneducated...
Since you don't answer, I guess that makes you clueless and uneducated. Funny how that works. Maybe you should read your responses before posting.

Oh, and we already know what else you are... it's perfectly clear.
Ohio Pete

Dahlonega, GA

#2737 Jan 29, 2013
The Jokes on You wrote:
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Since you don't answer, I guess that makes you clueless and uneducated. Funny how that works. Maybe you should read your responses before posting.
Oh, and we already know what else you are... it's perfectly clear.
Ooowww, smack down!!!! Three points from the half-court line!!!

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#2738 Jan 29, 2013
The Jokes on You wrote:
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Oh, now you're physic, are you?
I assure you, I have NEVER been easy on anyone who I know is "gaming" the system when it comes to welfare, food stamps, etc. And yes, I have asked at least one person how they think it's moral or ethical to get welfare when they're able to work. Other than that one person, I don't personally know anyone else who is milking the welfare system. However, I do know a number of people who cheat on their taxes, set up businesses to lose money for tax write offs, etc.
Well, then I guess you need to appoint yourself their moral compass and take them to task. While you are at it, look a little HARDER for those gaming the system. Your response to that part of the equation was just a little too convenient. pfft
The Jokes on You

Blairsville, GA

#2739 Jan 29, 2013
Synergy wrote:
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Well, then I guess you need to appoint yourself their moral compass and take them to task. While you are at it, look a little HARDER for those gaming the system. Your response to that part of the equation was just a little too convenient. pfft
Wow, is that as good as you can come back with? Pathetic.

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#2740 Jan 29, 2013
The Jokes on You wrote:
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Wow, is that as good as you can come back with? Pathetic.
An ironic comment coming from one such as yourself...

“Liberals are closet raaacists!”

Since: Nov 08

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#2741 Jan 29, 2013
The Jokes on You wrote:
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Wow, is that as good as you can come back with? Pathetic.
Hey! I got the best of YOU. That's good enough for me.(BTW, you and your pitiful double standard are the very definition of pathetic.)

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#2742 Jan 29, 2013
C Dundee wrote:
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"Straw Man" Sure, whatever man. You have got to be the most arrogant person i've ever read on here. Just full of yourself or something else.
It's people like you who get away with paying less taxes than the average man because of capital gains tax rates and other bullsh-t.
Another clueless and uneducated comment...

Oh, we've met?

"It's people like you who get away with paying less taxes than the average man because of capital gains tax rates and other bullsh-t."

How do you know what taxes I pay? Omnipotent? Nah, probably just impotent...

We all pay the same tax rates, don't we? Or is that beyond your comprehension?

BTW, even with capital gains, I pay a higher OVERALL tax rate than the average person. But that's probably beyond your ability to understand...
ladybug63l

Cartersville, GA

#2743 Jan 30, 2013
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<quoted text>No, that's really just another Right Wing/Teabagger fantasy.

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Teacher

Young Harris, GA

#2744 Jan 30, 2013
The Jokes on You wrote:
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...set up businesses to lose money for tax write offs, etc.
For example:

The CG rate is nothing compared to some other tax loopholes that are out there - IF you're invited to sit down at the table and that happens only if you net worth is....

There are at least three areas of business that enjoy special loopholes, and all three are high-profile - professional sports, car racing (NASCAR and F1) and the motion picture industry. In pro sports, the team is incorporated as a Limited Partnership (they all are), and an LP share runs from between $100 million to $300 million, depending on which table you're at.

What do you NOT get for your investment? A ROI (profit)!

But that's the game. First, you'll get guaranteed operating LOSSES on the investment (share) that run into the millions. You also get to write off a 187% accelerated declining balance depreciation (over 5 years) plus a 3% investment tax credit. After the five years? You "trade" with one of the other LPs and start the process all over again.

The other two areas operate a little differently but the results are the same. LOL! One that's amusing: The original "Rocky" has grossed well over a billion dollars, but has yet to show a taxable profit! "Top Gun" and "Days of Thunder" are both big losers as are others.

All that is really great if you're having a good year. If it's not such a good one, you "sell" your interest to one of the other LPs who is having a good one, for a handsome amount, who pays you using off-shore shell corporate accounts.

Sure, all of us could do the same thing, it's all legal, but we need to have a net, before tax, off-setting income that is in the hundreds of millions before you get to play.

And some of you bitch about some poor bastard gaming the system.
peacock

Lithonia, GA

#2745 Jan 30, 2013
The one arrogant engineer is about as dull & arrogant as human can possibly be. The remaining few only impress themselves, calling any other posts/comments uneducated. Gag. You lost me at "Synergy", "D-ville" & "Jeb". Now meet at the club, poke that ole cigar in yo mouth, have a bourban and dream of 67. Yeah, all things important.
peacock

Lithonia, GA

#2746 Jan 30, 2013
Did I mention the arrogance?
DAN

Chickamauga, GA

#2747 Jan 30, 2013
Teacher wrote:
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For example:
The CG rate is nothing compared to some other tax loopholes that are out there - IF you're invited to sit down at the table and that happens only if you net worth is....
There are at least three areas of business that enjoy special loopholes, and all three are high-profile - professional sports, car racing (NASCAR and F1) and the motion picture industry. In pro sports, the team is incorporated as a Limited Partnership (they all are), and an LP share runs from between $100 million to $300 million, depending on which table you're at.
What do you NOT get for your investment? A ROI (profit)!
But that's the game. First, you'll get guaranteed operating LOSSES on the investment (share) that run into the millions. You also get to write off a 187% accelerated declining balance depreciation (over 5 years) plus a 3% investment tax credit. After the five years? You "trade" with one of the other LPs and start the process all over again.
The other two areas operate a little differently but the results are the same. LOL! One that's amusing: The original "Rocky" has grossed well over a billion dollars, but has yet to show a taxable profit! "Top Gun" and "Days of Thunder" are both big losers as are others.
All that is really great if you're having a good year. If it's not such a good one, you "sell" your interest to one of the other LPs who is having a good one, for a handsome amount, who pays you using off-shore shell corporate accounts.
Sure, all of us could do the same thing, it's all legal, but we need to have a net, before tax, off-setting income that is in the hundreds of millions before you get to play.
And some of you bitch about some poor bastard gaming the system.
This is exactly what every business in america has done in the past and is doing today the only people that actually pays taxes the the little working person ,that is why the country suffers so much when all of them are not working .

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