City Council's Responsibility for HA illegal activity

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anon

Saint Marys, GA

#1 May 15, 2013
Why doesn't our ELECTED City Council and Mayor take responsibility for illegal activity by the Hospital Authority? They knew it was going on; now that the Hospital Authority has been exposed; the City Council need to accept responsibility for the activity they knew was going on for seven years.
Anon

Saint Marys, GA

#2 May 15, 2013
Take a breath, Jeremy, and stop with the caps.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#3 May 15, 2013
During which they went to court and lost.

What part of authorities being like Frankenstein's monster under Georgia law did you not understand?
Angry Tax Payer

Saint Marys, GA

#4 May 15, 2013
Anon wrote:
Take a breath, Jeremy, and stop with the caps.
It is not Jeremy, you scumbag downtown hog. You are worried about losing your free extravagant dinners, drinks and entertainment aren't you? You are about to lose the free Zumba lessons for your fat wife too.
Anne Runyan

Saint Marys, GA

#5 May 15, 2013
Moreno Jay wrote:
During which they went to court and lost.
What part of authorities being like Frankenstein's monster under Georgia law did you not understand?
The council lost because the council wanted to lose. The council is just like Obama who approved of what the IRS was doing until the crime was exposed. At least Obama now says he is against the IRA's criminal activity, the council is silent about the HA activity.

The city council is ELECTED by and is responsible to all citizens and voters of St Marys for everything that goes on in the city.
They approved of what was going on with the HA. Being the political cowards they are, they feared to invoke the wrath of the old downtown howling cows.

Stop being an apologist for the gutless city council. It does not become you. You are better than that.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#6 May 15, 2013
Oh, I agree with you on the gutlessness.

I'm in no way being an apologist for the council.

I am simply trying to explain - for at least the third time - that once an authority is recommended by a city and approved by the legislature, it takes on a life of its on.

Irrespective of guts or a lack thereof, there is nothing legally the council can do. Authorities enjoy autonomy and immortality until and if they decide to vote to disband themselves. The city can not do it. I have researched this many years ago and it is still true today.

Those who don't believe me are cordially invited to check it out themselves.

I would guess, Anne ( and I salute your courage if that is your real name) that perhaps you were among those not aware that a council can not legally "kill" a standing authority.
Nick

Saint Marys, GA

#7 May 15, 2013
Always thought that explaining something 3 times had a deeper meaning.
ZumbaGATE

Kingsland, GA

#8 May 15, 2013
Actually, the Council is not to blame here. The one to blame is the past state representation. According to a fax sent to the former City attorney from Stein states that the law concerned him and that he(Stein) was willing to assist our local representation on changing it to meet the needs of what the Authority wanted to do. Senator Chapman and Rep. Cecily Hill were cc'd on that letter. Furthermore, Bill Deloughy acted as a "mediator" between the Council of 2008 to agree on the purpose of the funds and the purpose of the Authority. So, the only one currently on Council that knew the intricacies of the situation is the current Mayor...who intends to run for re-election. Deb Hase knew of this when she was Mayor and mentioned it when she was on Council before leaving. In addition, a former Authority member, Lou Casey, wrote a letter that stated the Authority cannot change its position of funding health care to funding a social program. He stated that the Authority is violating the law and possibly violating Irrevocable Trust laws as well.

So for the most part the Council was aware, but could not do anything because the Authority is not a City entity, it is a state entity, hence the reason the current representation and the citizens have questioned the oversight of the money. Look for a petition filed in court soon for the citizens.
Indigent Patient

Jacksonville, FL

#9 May 16, 2013
ZumbaGATE wrote:
Actually, the Council is not to blame here. The one to blame is the past state representation. According to a fax sent to the former City attorney from Stein states that the law concerned him and that he(Stein) was willing to assist our local representation on changing it to meet the needs of what the Authority wanted to do. Senator Chapman and Rep. Cecily Hill were cc'd on that letter. Furthermore, Bill Deloughy acted as a "mediator" between the Council of 2008 to agree on the purpose of the funds and the purpose of the Authority. So, the only one currently on Council that knew the intricacies of the situation is the current Mayor...who intends to run for re-election. Deb Hase knew of this when she was Mayor and mentioned it when she was on Council before leaving. In addition, a former Authority member, Lou Casey, wrote a letter that stated the Authority cannot change its position of funding health care to funding a social program. He stated that the Authority is violating the law and possibly violating Irrevocable Trust laws as well.
So for the most part the Council was aware, but could not do anything because the Authority is not a City entity, it is a state entity, hence the reason the current representation and the citizens have questioned the oversight of the money. Look for a petition filed in court soon for the citizens.
Actually, the letter was "cc'd" only to "Cecil Hill". Sen. Chapman was not listed.

See here:http://www.staterepspence r.com/stein_detAGBanksNov21_28 _2008%20communication.pdf

Stein couldn't spell Cecily's name right...
Indigent Patient

Jacksonville, FL

#10 May 16, 2013

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#11 May 16, 2013
ZumbaGATE wrote:
Actually, the Council is not to blame here. The one to blame is the past state representation. According to a fax sent to the former City attorney from Stein states that the law concerned him and that he(Stein) was willing to assist our local representation on changing it to meet the needs of what the Authority wanted to do. Senator Chapman and Rep. Cecily Hill were cc'd on that letter. Furthermore, Bill Deloughy acted as a "mediator" between the Council of 2008 to agree on the purpose of the funds and the purpose of the Authority. So, the only one currently on Council that knew the intricacies of the situation is the current Mayor...who intends to run for re-election. Deb Hase knew of this when she was Mayor and mentioned it when she was on Council before leaving. In addition, a former Authority member, Lou Casey, wrote a letter that stated the Authority cannot change its position of funding health care to funding a social program. He stated that the Authority is violating the law and possibly violating Irrevocable Trust laws as well.
So for the most part the Council was aware, but could not do anything because the Authority is not a City entity, it is a state entity, hence the reason the current representation and the citizens have questioned the oversight of the money. Look for a petition filed in court soon for the citizens.
Short version: Jay is exactly right.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#12 May 16, 2013
Indigent Patient wrote:
http://www.staterepspencer.com /stein_detAGBanksNov21_28_2008 %20communication.pdf
So, it's not as if Jim did not inform the AG of the HA's intention to knowingly violate the law in advance of their doing so.

By St. Marys standards, that's actually a step-up in respect for state law.
CB in WB

Enfield, IL

#13 May 16, 2013
Same group that had a failed petition with the grand jury concerning prior events with the Council. This is going no where. The Spencers are jack ass sh@t stirrers. Jason can't help the kids with AED's, he has caused us to lose tech school funding(will be in the news soon), he put more needless regs on fishermen, and hates old people.

“The one and only! ”

Since: Oct 10

St. Marys, GA

#14 May 16, 2013
I hear he pulls the wings off of flies - but only old flies.
HateLowInfoVoter s

Jacksonville, FL

#15 May 16, 2013
CB in WB wrote:
Same group that had a failed petition with the grand jury concerning prior events with the Council. This is going no where. The Spencers are jack ass sh@t stirrers. Jason can't help the kids with AED's, he has caused us to lose tech school funding(will be in the news soon), he put more needless regs on fishermen, and hates old people.
Can't stand low information voters:

http://www.house-press.com/...
Run

Saint Marys, GA

#16 May 16, 2013
everyone has a pet project.
Anon

Kingsland, GA

#17 May 16, 2013
Governor will be removing the funding for the tech school out of the budget. Watch and see, its happening as we speak. This is being done because Jason was such an ass to work with in Atlants. Camden County loses again. Thank you Rep Spencer
HateLowInfoVoter s

Jacksonville, FL

#18 May 16, 2013
Anon wrote:
Governor will be removing the funding for the tech school out of the budget. Watch and see, its happening as we speak. This is being done because Jason was such an ass to work with in Atlants. Camden County loses again. Thank you Rep Spencer
Again, another low information voter...money is in the budget and it is already signed. He did not line item veto anything. Low information makes you look stupid.

"The governor did not make any line-item vetoes."

http://www.wsbtv.com/ap/ap/legislative/deal-s...
Truth is

Winter Park, FL

#19 May 16, 2013
Indigent Patient wrote:
http://www.staterepspencer.com /stein_detAGBanksNov21_28_2008 %20communication.pdf
In my opinion as Jim Stein stated in many occasions in the above "cover my a** because I'm currently negotiating a deal to
steal as much as possible from the taxpayers of St . Marys" he along with all involved should serve jail time!!!!

Where is the letter stating the Attorney General was in compliance with Steins in my opinion nonsense?
CCGPS

Kingsland, GA

#20 May 16, 2013
Anon wrote:
Governor will be removing the funding for the tech school out of the budget. Watch and see, its happening as we speak. This is being done because Jason was such an ass to work with in Atlants. Camden County loses again. Thank you Rep Spencer
No, you can think William Ligon since he came out against Deal's executive order on Common Core. Ligon poked his a$$ in the eye. At least we have two reps that stand for something.

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