Ketchner murder
LocalK

Kingman, AZ

#101 Jul 31, 2009
secrets wrote:
...Here's the cold hard truth...once you have children, it's not about YOU anymore. It's about the children. It is your responsibility to protect those children at all costs. Every decision you make affects those children. Take responsibility for your offspring and stop blaming the system.
AMEN!!

If people are willing to excuse stupidity, then the same thing will happen over and over and over again. Nothing changes until we stop coddling weakness.

Young girls can get so wrapped up in "love". If it goes unchecked, then they become grown up women with kids who still don't know what a real man is. They get "hung up" and never let go of someone they think they love. They are scared to move on without their "love". How about learning to live life fully without love. Then when a true healthy love comes, you have your cake and can eat it too.

People waste their lives in dysfunctional relationships not to mention domestic abuse. It's time to wake up, take accountability for the past, stop making the same mistakes over and over again. Just because the statistics are high in this area of our culture doesn't mean we have to be one ofthe statistics. AWARENESS makes change. And that's why I'm so adamant about my thoughts.

Maybe there will be less children subjected to stupidity of their parents.
tisktisk

West Des Moines, IA

#102 Aug 2, 2009
...agreed LocalK.

here is another example of an irresponsible mom:


...sad thing is, these kinds of stories are all too common. mothers need 2 get their priorities straight instead of choosing their so called "man" over their child(ren).

it's even more saddening that Jenn's incident is now part of the statistic...and don't say she did 'everything' she could, because she didn't. we have witnessed her allowing this scum back into her life several times...4 the sake of "love" or drug money perhaps. whichever reason it was, it wasn't worth Ariel's life...and that's the bottom line.
kenzie allison

Kingman, AZ

#103 Aug 3, 2009
tisktisk wrote:
I'm sick of everyone putting Jennifer on a pedestal...
This should have never happened Jenn. I hope Ariel's life was worth the money that this "known" drug dealer was supporting you with. It's so sad that someone else had 2 pay for your selfish mistake...and what makes it worse is, that "someone" was your eldest daughter. I pray that you come out of your coma so you can live in misery, despair, and guilt...that is, if you have any conscience left after shrugging it off all these years.
honestly whoever this is is a worse person than darrell ketchner! my mom did nothing wrong you have NO idea whatsoever what was going on in my family and the situation we were in! me m om did not take his "drug money" on account of he wasnt a drug dealer anymore you iggnorant pig! and my mother is not ina coma and she will not live in guilt despair or misery because the actions of some sick individual will not make her feel guilt! my mom did not "love" him nor was she with him and she did lose her first born baby so think about her havung to live with that! if youve read the newsppaper whatsoever you would know he was on drugs and broke into my home and viciously attacked my family my mother did NOT let him in and did nothing to promote nor provoke him he is truely the devils spawn he will burn in hell hand in hand with you for saying such a horrible thing. i hope you never have to lose a sister or a daughter and if you do then i hope someone blames it on you!!!!!! point the finger at darrell you ignorant filth!
kenzie allison

Kingman, AZ

#104 Aug 3, 2009
LocalK wrote:
<quoted text>
AMEN!!
If people are willing to excuse stupidity, then the same thing will happen over and over and over again. Nothing changes until we stop coddling weakness.
Young girls can get so wrapped up in "love". If it goes unchecked, then they become grown up women with kids who still don't know what a real man is. They get "hung up" and never let go of someone they think they love. They are scared to move on without their "love". How about learning to live life fully without love. Then when a true healthy love comes, you have your cake and can eat it too.
People waste their lives in dysfunctional relationships not to mention domestic abuse. It's time to wake up, take accountability for the past, stop making the same mistakes over and over again. Just because the statistics are high in this area of our culture doesn't mean we have to be one ofthe statistics. AWARENESS makes change. And that's why I'm so adamant about my thoughts.
Maybe there will be less children subjected to stupidity of their parents.
i hope a you have a child brutally slaughterewd and then everyopne can blame it on your stupidity because you seem to be full of it! you are obviously oblivious to to what happened that night! my mother stood in front of someone elses child that was there and sacrificerd her self so he could get out!!! my mother did everything she could to protect us! this should be blamed onno one but darrell bryant ketchner!!!!!!
kenzie allison

Kingman, AZ

#105 Aug 3, 2009
those people that are posting on pages five and six that this was my mothers fault and she's a "irresponsible" mother who was selfish can all burn in hell you obviously didnt know my mother jennifer and you obvioulsy didnt know ariel! my mother did everything she could to protect us! and oyu have no right to judge and hope bad things upon her!you have no idea what led upto this you have no idea what my mother and darrells relationship was and you have no idea what kind of person he is and my mother is! she is strong and she rightly knows this is to be blamed on no one but darrell himself!!!
sorrowful

Delta, UT

#106 Aug 3, 2009
I can not believe what is being written about this family, there is only one person to blame this on and that is Darrell Ketchner.....some of you are victimizing this family all over again, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
sorrowful in Kingman

Delta, UT

#107 Aug 3, 2009
I can not believe what some of you are writting about this family, you should be ashamed of yourselves, there is no one to blame here except Darrel Ketchner. May God bless everyone in your family Kenzie! Don't let idiots comments bother you.
kenzie allison

Kingman, AZ

#108 Aug 3, 2009
altoughh it is very easy to point fingers and put the blame on my mother it is not her fault and some people dont have the resources to just up and move every time something bad happens! she is a struggling SINGLE mother and she wasnt talking to him or taking his "drug money"! what happened is NOT her fault nor anyone elses besdies the devil, meth, and darrell ketchner!!! shame on you for even thinking thos thoughts!
So sad

Yucaipa, CA

#109 Aug 3, 2009
Why did your Mom allow this man into your lives to begin with? He was a known drug dealer when she made her first baby with him. Why did she continue to make babies with him when he came out of prison? What was in it for her? As far as I know she never held a job. I know Bob and Arleen and know that they would have helped her get away.Why didn't she protect you and your sister?If you think her lifestyle was acceptable, then you are destined to perpetuate it. Children live what they learn....
Kingmanite

Kingman, AZ

#110 Aug 4, 2009
Attention - SO SAD
You should be ashamed of yourself. This is a horrible tragedy that was no ones fault but Derrel Ketchners. This family did not deserve any of this to happen. Jennifer loves each and every one of her children, you do not know what went on in her life, you are assuming. Do you know what it means to assume???? Seriously have some compasion for this family and keep your opinions to yourself. Kenzie please do not let ignorant people take away the precious memories you have of Ariel. Stay strong for your mom and your sisters and brother. Kingman loves you Kenzie.
LocalK

Kingman, AZ

#111 Aug 4, 2009
I only hopes lessons are learned from this tragedy and never repeated.

As I said before, there was a way to avoid the situation based on the DKLUNATIC's previous actions. That's where the learning can be drawn from.
In the Know

Yucaipa, CA

#112 Aug 4, 2009
Bottom line.....Jennifer let him into not only her life but the lives of her two children and when she knew what type of person he was so had three children with him. When was enough going to be enough!!!! I quess we found out on July 4, 2009. What a shame!!!! If she didn't care what he did to her at least she should have cared enough about her children. They will all be scarred for the rest of their lives. I only hope she comes out of this a better person!!! She lost her husband and that didn't seem to help. Maybe losing a child will.
Think before you type

Kingman, AZ

#113 Aug 4, 2009
In the Know,
Do you truly know Jennifer or are you assuming things. Please be respectful of what you post as Jennifers children do read these and you should be ashamed of yourself. She cares about her children more than you know. If you cant say anything nice well then dont say anything at all. This is a time when her children need support not negative comments. Shame on you
anti politically correct

Kingman, AZ

#114 Aug 4, 2009
sorry but anyone can express themselves here as they wish. it is their freedom of expressing their opinion. you dont like what said DONT READ THE POST.
my self im sorry it was not kenzie who was killed cause she is the biggest trouble maker in this town for a teenage girl
that my opinion
kenzie allison

Kingman, AZ

#115 Aug 4, 2009
anti politically correct wrote:
sorry but anyone can express themselves here as they wish. it is their freedom of expressing their opinion. you dont like what said DONT READ THE POST.
my self im sorry it was not kenzie who was killed cause she is the biggest trouble maker in this town for a teenage girl
that my opinion
Its funny how you can post how you think im the worst teenage girl in town nd how i should have been killed but you can't even put your name on here if i ever pass judgement such as you just did i at least have the pride in my opinion to say it with my name.No innocent child deserves to die, and if you feel that way maybe god will prove your theory wrong and let you lose your first born child, or better yet you yourself be bruttally slaughtered. And since you seem to have no concept of what happened tht night nor what happened in the years preceeding that night let me telll you that if it would've been me that it would have also been my two BABY siblings would that be tragedy enough for you to think a tad bit differently? i hope you find god and he can save your soul before its to late because a dance with the devil will last you forever :)
worried in phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#116 Aug 5, 2009
is darrell in custody or has he been bailed out? my brothers neighbor reported seeing him on sunday a couple days ago. in east mesa. she did not know what had occurred on the fourth she just told us she knew darrell had ripped my brother off and wondered why he was coming around again. so i asked my brother what was up and i guess there was a kid at travis on sunday (travis was nt home)said a guy came up asked if trav and lori was home. kid said no, guy left. when travis showed him a picture with several people in it, the kid pointed to darrell and said hey there is the guy that came over. travis also said some girl showed him an article that stated the cash was posted for the bond and darrell was released. do you know anything about this anyone? makes me nervous, as darrell and travis did not part on good terms.
worried in phoenix

Phoenix, AZ

#117 Aug 5, 2009
my self im sorry it was not kenzie who was killed cause she is the biggest trouble maker in this town for a teenage girl
that my opinion

probably everybodys oponion:
you are a disgusting person.
LocalK

Kingman, AZ

#118 Aug 5, 2009
Come on you guys! It's getting rude to say you are sorry someone wasn't killed.

There is learning in this. Why did a single mother bring a convicted drug dealing felon into her life and the lives of her kids? And why did she have 3 children over an 8 year period with him?

It's not OK to hook up with convicted felons. It's not OK to bring these kind of people in to the lives of your children. And if you make babies with a creep like Darrell Ketchner, that's inviting him even more in to you life.

The lesson is this: What you allow, you teach is OK.
caring in K-Town

United States

#119 Aug 5, 2009
kenzie allison wrote:
<quoted text>
Its funny how you can post how you think im the worst teenage girl in town nd how i should have been killed but you can't even put your name on here if i ever pass judgement such as you just did i at least have the pride in my opinion to say it with my name.No innocent child deserves to die, and if you feel that way maybe god will prove your theory wrong and let you lose your first born child, or better yet you yourself be bruttally slaughtered. And since you seem to have no concept of what happened tht night nor what happened in the years preceeding that night let me telll you that if it would've been me that it would have also been my two BABY siblings would that be tragedy enough for you to think a tad bit differently? i hope you find god and he can save your soul before its to late because a dance with the devil will last you forever :)
Kenzie, Honey please don't subject yourself to this page anymore these people were not there and do not now what happened. Im a mom and I know that you guys didn't sit down that evening and say ok prepare for the worst dads gonna flip out and kill us!! You and your mom and sibling are NOT at fault. You guys are the victims! No matter what Darrell will get his!! It's so easy for everyone to judge. They didn't walk in your moms shoes or live your lives. So just keep your chin up and don't buy into this crap. Remember it's Kingman Drama!! BTW to however wished Kenzie dead it is a crime even on the internet to make a death threat so don't do it again or I personally will have this thread monitored and you will go to jail.
Think before you type

Kingman, AZ

#120 Aug 5, 2009
anti politically correct wrote:
sorry but anyone can express themselves here as they wish. it is their freedom of expressing their opinion. you dont like what said DONT READ THE POST.
my self im sorry it was not kenzie who was killed cause she is the biggest trouble maker in this town for a teenage girl
that my opinion
What a horrible thing to say. You are entitled to your own opinion, however your statement was sick and twisted. These types of opinions you should keep to yourself.

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