'Buy local' sells in other Pa. casino towns

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David LeVan's promise to give preference to Adams County businesses and residents if he's granted a gaming resort license might make good political sense locally at a time of economic uncertainty.
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Dick Hurtz

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Mar 28, 2010
 
George wrote:
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Do you know him? I know who he is and have met him. Not impressed. He appears to be all about money, that means putting it in his pockets, not the lowly employees running a card table.
Hey George .. I haven't met you and hope I don't. You appear to be a very jealous and angry man. Your the kind of "downer" most positive people try to avoid... Your comments not only reflect your stupidity, but also your ignorance. You are true NCG "material".

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Mar 28, 2010
 
George wrote:
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He appears to be all about money, that means putting it in his pockets, not the lowly employees running a card table.
Could describe an acceptable wage for your self-described "lowly" employee running a card table?

I'm confused - you describe them as "lowly" yet give the impression that they should be making a lot of money.
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Mar 28, 2010
 
Edd wrote:
There's no way Mr LeVan is going to waste time, resources, and money training people for business critical positions if he can hire someone from outside the county for the savings it will yield.
Mr. LeVan will not be running a charity folks. Too many view the casino for what they think it will be, rather than realizing that the bottom line will be business profits and not the well being of local residents.
Get real.
Funny you should say that Edd.
Seems to me that Mr. Levan is already doing exactly that....running a charity.
Surely even you can agree that Mr. and Mrs. Levan give a TREMENDOUS amount of money to local charities and organizations each year. Millions to Gettysburg College, Majestic, Gettysburg Foundation, Arts Council, United Way, Adams County Childrens Advocacy.....
And the money to do so comes from the PROFIT made at the Harley dealership.

So basically they run the dealership....to give money away to charity.
Sure, they make money for themselves too, but I don't see the owners of the KIA dealership doling out cash. I don't see Schindler Elevator buying tables at local fundraising events. How come it's okay for some folks to have a prosperous business - but not the LeVan's when they have a RECORD of giving so much back?
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Mar 28, 2010
 
I can't ever recall this much passionate controversy in my county. Mr. LeVan has infuriated a good portion of the population of my area. He has neighbors fighting with neighbors in contemptuous fashion. People are insulting each other. All because one man has begun to salivate about getting richer than he already is.

There are many ways for Mr. LeVan to enrich himself without getting people upset. If he would seek out those other investment opportunities and drop his divisive quest for a casino I would regard him more favorably.

But, because he insists, stubbornly, to continue alienating people with his ill begotten goals, he represents everything that is despicable about humans.

If he gets his casino the resentment of many of Adams county's residents will simmer for years to come. The only ones that will gain significantly from this fiasco will be Mr. LeVan and his business partner.

He has encouraged his supporters to think that there will be massive benefits for them that will somehow materialize once a casino is in place. He is counting on, and promoting, that deception relentlessly.

Supporting him, and his false promises, is just not worth the continual turmoil he has initiated.
Dick Hurtz

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Mar 28, 2010
 
Edd wrote:
I can't ever recall this much passionate controversy in my county. Mr. LeVan has infuriated a good portion of the population of my area. He has neighbors fighting with neighbors in contemptuous fashion. People are insulting each other. All because one man has begun to salivate about getting richer than he already is.
There are many ways for Mr. LeVan to enrich himself without getting people upset. If he would seek out those other investment opportunities and drop his divisive quest for a casino I would regard him more favorably.
But, because he insists, stubbornly, to continue alienating people with his ill begotten goals, he represents everything that is despicable about humans.
If he gets his casino the resentment of many of Adams county's residents will simmer for years to come. The only ones that will gain significantly from this fiasco will be Mr. LeVan and his business partner.
He has encouraged his supporters to think that there will be massive benefits for them that will somehow materialize once a casino is in place. He is counting on, and promoting, that deception relentlessly.
Supporting him, and his false promises, is just not worth the continual turmoil he has initiated.
I don't know where you live, but the only one who appear infuriated are you and your no casino gang. Poll shows 62% have no problem with a "legal" gaming facility business. Now if my math serves me right here that would mean the "infuriated" would be in the minority. Keep spouting "trash" about Levan....every post digs a deeper hole for NCG.
Dick Hurtz

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Mar 28, 2010
 
Hoping for success wrote:
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Funny you should say that Edd.
Seems to me that Mr. Levan is already doing exactly that....running a charity.
Surely even you can agree that Mr. and Mrs. Levan give a TREMENDOUS amount of money to local charities and organizations each year. Millions to Gettysburg College, Majestic, Gettysburg Foundation, Arts Council, United Way, Adams County Childrens Advocacy.....
And the money to do so comes from the PROFIT made at the Harley dealership.
So basically they run the dealership....to give money away to charity.
Sure, they make money for themselves too, but I don't see the owners of the KIA dealership doling out cash. I don't see Schindler Elevator buying tables at local fundraising events. How come it's okay for some folks to have a prosperous business - but not the LeVan's when they have a RECORD of giving so much back?
You know "Hoping" you are right..... By the way, what has No Casino Gettysburg done for Adams County recently ?

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Mar 28, 2010
 
I believe that post Edd pretty much sums the personal dislike you have for a successful businessman, which has little to do with the issue at hand.

Why is it that you feel you should determie how a businessman enriches himself? Do you ask to be consulted first with other leading business people to determine how they should seek profit?
Dick Hurtz

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Mar 28, 2010
 
Edd wrote:
I can't ever recall this much passionate controversy in my county. Mr. LeVan has infuriated a good portion of the population of my area. He has neighbors fighting with neighbors in contemptuous fashion. People are insulting each other. All because one man has begun to salivate about getting richer than he already is.
There are many ways for Mr. LeVan to enrich himself without getting people upset. If he would seek out those other investment opportunities and drop his divisive quest for a casino I would regard him more favorably.
But, because he insists, stubbornly, to continue alienating people with his ill begotten goals, he represents everything that is despicable about humans.
If he gets his casino the resentment of many of Adams county's residents will simmer for years to come. The only ones that will gain significantly from this fiasco will be Mr. LeVan and his business partner.
He has encouraged his supporters to think that there will be massive benefits for them that will somehow materialize once a casino is in place. He is counting on, and promoting, that deception relentlessly.
Supporting him, and his false promises, is just not worth the continual turmoil he has initiated.
By The Way, do you have statistics on the "good portion of the population Mr. LeVan has infuriated". Would like to see your locations and numbers. Do I smell more steam coming off the NCG manure ?

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Mar 28, 2010
 
WE NEED MoRE COWBELL !!!
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Mar 28, 2010
 
Susan Star Paddock was reported as last being seen cowering in a foxhole running very low on ammunition and sustaining a withering fire from all sides.
Rick K

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Mar 28, 2010
 
Dear Edd, I don't know where you are from or where you get your information, but you so misinformed that there is no word to fit.

First, this casino opportunity was not expected even six months ago. It came about with an unexpected change in the gaming laws. That left a very short response time for anyone interested in applying.

A casino application is so involved that it requires boxes and boxes of documents, studies, renderings, etc. This is not something that can be paper clipped together and sent in an envelope.

With such an involved application process and short time frame, it would make sense to hire a spokesperson already experienced with the gaming industry. Mr. La Torre is experienced and he shows a high level of integrity which appears to be sorely lacking in your case.

When the casino license is awarded, more than ample time will then be available, while the facilities are under renovation, to train any and all new employees for any and all positions.

As for Mr. LeVan not being a charity, name one, just one, other person who has done even half of the charitable work of Mr. and Mrs. LeVan.

In the future, please activate brain prior to engaging mouth.
Bill Kearney

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Mar 28, 2010
 
LogicPrevails wrote:
George - you're complaining that the guy has a successful business in the Harley dealership? Do you complain about all successful business people?
How much do you think a retail salesperson, motorcycle salesperson, or motorcycle mechanic should make? I'd be willing to bet that their pay is probably pretty close to what can be had elsewhere, otherwise the employees would leave for greener pastures (especially in these economic times).
Your comment about long hair and drugs is really out of touch with reality. Ever hear the saying "don't judge a book by its cover"? Try getting beyond stereotypes sometime.
Like Iíve promised in an earlier post hereís whoís behind the name LogicPrevails. Heís real name is Kurt Schmundt. He works for the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board as a Technical Field Representative, which means he can't gamble in our casinos. So basically what we have here is just another casino PIMP squabbling for the scraps from the CASINO PREDATORS table.

What say you, Schmundt

Stay tune thereís more to come

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Mar 28, 2010
 
LOL Bill - I knew your whole "cut and paste" posts were extremely repetitive, but you're really destroying any hope of anyone taking you seriously now.

I asked in another thread where you posted your poor attempt at internet stalking if you were going to put this in every casino-related thread...and I guess I was right!

Do you think you could offer something legitimate - like answering the questions people ask instead of your usual crap?
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Mar 28, 2010
 
LogicPrevails wrote:
LOL Bill - I knew your whole "cut and paste" posts were extremely repetitive, but you're really destroying any hope of anyone taking you seriously now.
I asked in another thread where you posted your poor attempt at internet stalking if you were going to put this in every casino-related thread...and I guess I was right!
Do you think you could offer something legitimate - like answering the questions people ask instead of your usual crap?
Yo, Kurt Schmundt ĎAKAí LogicPrevails/CASINO DOPE #1, drop me an email when your going I would love to hook up and debate in person the proís and conís of casino gambling. Hey, how about the way I unveiled your real identity, hereís more about you that I think the readers will also find interesting. My source as you know by now happens to know you quite well. He says that he has never meant an individual that is more prejudices and opinionated in his life. He also said that itís hard to understand how someone like you, at the age of 43, never been married, still lives with his parents, whose no more than 5í6Ē tall, and tilts the scale way over 300 lbs, smokes like a chimney, dresses like a hillbilly and has no concept of personal hygiene but yet expects such high expectations from others on things like personal responsibility. He also said that you donít today and never have gambled in any casino and the only reason you got the job with the ĎPGCBí is because one of your relatives is related to a Gaming Board member. Now none of this surprises me and thatís because I know from day one you were a fraud and like the rest of the CASINO DOPES donít practice what you preach. Now you havenít come close to proving me wrong about the casino SCAM so how about proving me wrong that youíre not Kurt Schmundt. Oh, and by the way just like every thing else you brought to the debate, youíre wrong once more when saying I played craps. Now if you would have stepped away from the buffet line for a moment and did some real research you would have seen what has been well documented, which is, when I was a casino gambling degenerate I only played BLACKJACK. Now hurry back with your proof that Iím not telling the truth but stop with those NAZI tactics they didnít work for your ancestors and they only make me bring up more incrementing evidence.
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#35
Mar 28, 2010
 
Edd wrote:
Check out the internet yellow pages for Adams County firms that could do the kind of work that David LaTorre, the Northumberland county resident, is doing for Mr. LeVan. There's a number of local people LeVan could have picked.
LaTorre is doing an OK job, but it sure isn't that spectacular for LeVan to choose him over local people.
It's an indication of the low regard that LeVan has for those of us in Adams County.... unless he wants us to clean his toilets.
EXACTLY!!! I've been saying this for weeks now, including directly in response to this person's posts in the papers. He will not reply when I ask him why he spews about the great opportunities for the local folks but he does not live in the county. This has all been smoke and mirrors...

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Mar 28, 2010
 
Bill Kearney wrote:
Oh, and by the way just like every thing else you brought to the debate, youíre wrong once more when saying I played craps. Now if you would have stepped away from the buffet line for a moment and did some real research you would have seen what has been well documented, which is, when I was a casino gambling degenerate I only played BLACKJACK.
Here's the difference between you and me Bill - I don't really care anything about you or what you lost at. Not even a little bit. Wait.......nope, nothing.

Too bad you didn't play craps, at least you'd have an excuse for all crap that comes out of your mouth.
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Mar 28, 2010
 
LogicPrevails wrote:
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Here's the difference between you and me Bill - I don't really care anything about you or what you lost at. Not even a little bit. Wait.......nope, nothing.
Too bad you didn't play craps, at least you'd have an excuse for all crap that comes out of your mouth.
Yo, Kurt Schmundt ĎAKAí LogicPrevails/CASINO DOPE #1, if your not who I say you are then COME OUT, COME OUT WHEREVER YOU ARE and prove it. It looks like your FEAR of everyone knowing who you really are has come true and now neither side wants anything to do with you. Maybe this link will make you feel safer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Mar 28, 2010
 
George wrote:
I moved yo adams county in the 90's from the pittsburg area to get away and enjoy a simpler life. So far it has been a pleasant experience but it seems Mr LeVan is just a money greedy person from a small community thats trying to feel big. He already has his very own Harley Davidson dealership. Does anybody realize that he dosent pay his excisting employees very much? Is this how he is going to treat the employees of his very own casino? I will feel sorrow for the local and small buisiness when we feed the monster because it will definitly take buisines from the local bars and restaurants. ps, is his long hair a sign that drugs will increase in the area?
Hey George,

What a small minded little man you must be. Firstly, let me fill you in drugs are already in Gettysburg and probably quite a bit more than you would imagine. But you just sit up there in your nice little neighborhood, with your pension that you pay no taxes on here and continue to live your life by sterotypes and keep spreading your narrow minded generalities. Bet that will get you real far.

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Mar 28, 2010
 
Edd wrote:
There's no way Mr LeVan is going to waste time, resources, and money training people for business critical positions if he can hire someone from outside the county for the savings it will yield.
Mr. LeVan will not be running a charity folks. Too many view the casino for what they think it will be, rather than realizing that the bottom line will be business profits and not the well being of local residents.
Get real.
For people that don't care about the community the LeVans sure have donated a lot of time, money and resources to the local organizations in the area. I know for a fact that they welcomed the Girlscouts into their dealership not two weeks ago to help us with our cookie sales. Maybe you better go check what facts you are basing your statements on.

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Mar 28, 2010
 
Dick Hurtz wrote:
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You know "Hoping" you are right..... By the way, what has No Casino Gettysburg done for Adams County recently ?
Nothing. And now they are trying to screw us out of any hope for economic relief in this area.

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