Casino vote next week

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The Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board announced Thursday a vote to award the last-available resort gaming license is expected to take place at a public meeting on April 14. Full Story
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Jack Kovis

New Kent, VA

#1 Apr 8, 2011
well, it's about time, let's get this built so I don't have to pay taxes anymore.
Duh

Three Springs, PA

#2 Apr 8, 2011
Jack Kovis wrote:
well, it's about time, let's get this built so I don't have to pay taxes anymore.
You're such a boob. THE CASINOS PAY no taxes. They do however pay only an annual fee for a certain percentage of the TAKE. And this vote might never take place--since the Commission is targeted for cut backs by Corbett. The only two viable locations are in Pittsburgh and the Holiday Inn at I-83 and the Pa Turnpike. WHY? Because the new Attorney General is a Corbett relative from the P-burgh region, and the other location is near the Police & Fire Stations and has several EXISTING market places and easy access to major hubs and roads. What does the Eisenhower Inn have to offer ? Nothing. By the time anything gets built or renewed..first , the Bridge of Emmitsburg Road is now closed for at least 2 years due to replacement . There is no viable water sources, and after the so call massive events of the 150th anniversary---the Park will suffer all the proposed cut backs as it so righteously deserves. All those unrealistic and costly fences that never existed cost over a $1 million to maintain for grass cutters and trash clean-up. wood that could've been used to aid in keeping families warm in this region who BEGGED for the cut trees. And all the infrastructure in Gettysburg, came to halt due to the loss of funding that was earmarked by Rendell Rendell and his croonies really did us in. So, live with it. Jobs & Taxes by Casino.. not around here.
voice of reason

York, PA

#3 Apr 8, 2011
Without knowing all the details this sounds like it has become a cluster f#$% for the record books
Here we go again

Woodbridge, VA

#4 Apr 8, 2011
If there's one thing we've all learned in the nation's fiscal crisis, you can't get out of the hole by gambling away your money (whether it is the taxpayer's money or an individual's money).

These are bold statements, so please make sure you're sitting down with both feet on the floor and your tray in its upright position:

Gambling does not benefit communities.
Gambling does not benefit families.
Gambling does not reduce deficits.
Gambling does not benefit children (OUR FUTURE).

Come to think of it, I can't think of a single positive feature of gambling, other than perhaps the few people who win big (which generally results in degradation of quality of life, and sometimes even bankruptcy, not to mention the stigma of being a child of big-winning gambling parents [Kid A: "How are your parents so rich?" Kid B: "They gambled my families' future and were very lucky".]

Yes, I know, what I say doesn't jive with the PA law (permitting gambling). Well, I don't think it takes a PhD to realize that so many things our government does are contrary to common sense and our best interests.(For example, why are there hundreds of school districts in our state, each with it's own highly-paid superintendent and administrators??? who thought up such a terribly-inefficient system???).

I rest my case..
johniej

Chambersburg, PA

#5 Apr 8, 2011
Duh wrote:
<quoted text>You're such a boob. THE CASINOS PAY no taxes. They do however pay only an annual fee for a certain percentage of the TAKE. And this vote might never take place--since the Commission is targeted for cut backs by Corbett. The only two viable locations are in Pittsburgh and the Holiday Inn at I-83 and the Pa Turnpike. WHY? Because the new Attorney General is a Corbett relative from the P-burgh region, and the other location is near the Police & Fire Stations and has several EXISTING market places and easy access to major hubs and roads. What does the Eisenhower Inn have to offer ? Nothing. By the time anything gets built or renewed..first , the Bridge of Emmitsburg Road is now closed for at least 2 years due to replacement . There is no viable water sources, and after the so call massive events of the 150th anniversary---the Park will suffer all the proposed cut backs as it so righteously deserves. All those unrealistic and costly fences that never existed cost over a $1 million to maintain for grass cutters and trash clean-up. wood that could've been used to aid in keeping families warm in this region who BEGGED for the cut trees. And all the infrastructure in Gettysburg, came to halt due to the loss of funding that was earmarked by Rendell Rendell and his croonies really did us in. So, live with it. Jobs & Taxes by Casino.. not around here.
What does Eis. Inn have to offer, well probably alot more then Gettysburg. Location, Population.......easy access........
Meade

Suwanee, GA

#6 Apr 8, 2011
Here we go again wrote:
If there's one thing we've all learned in the nation's fiscal crisis, you can't get out of the hole by gambling away your money (whether it is the taxpayer's money or an individual's money).
These are bold statements, so please make sure you're sitting down with both feet on the floor and your tray in its upright position:
Gambling does not benefit communities.
Gambling does not benefit families.
Gambling does not reduce deficits.
Gambling does not benefit children (OUR FUTURE).
Come to think of it, I can't think of a single positive feature of gambling, other than perhaps the few people who win big (which generally results in degradation of quality of life, and sometimes even bankruptcy, not to mention the stigma of being a child of big-winning gambling parents [Kid A: "How are your parents so rich?" Kid B: "They gambled my families' future and were very lucky".]
Yes, I know, what I say doesn't jive with the PA law (permitting gambling). Well, I don't think it takes a PhD to realize that so many things our government does are contrary to common sense and our best interests.(For example, why are there hundreds of school districts in our state, each with it's own highly-paid superintendent and administrators??? who thought up such a terribly-inefficient system???).
I rest my case..
Excellent point. No Casino!
NoCasino

Baltimore, MD

#7 Apr 8, 2011
It will never happen in Gettysburg. Even if LeVan gets his wish, people from all over will protest and it will never be built. This not a local issue no matter how hard they try to say it is. This is global. Just ask Ken Burns or Warren Buffet what they think! NoCasinoGettysburg!
sps

Gettysburg, PA

#8 Apr 8, 2011
Duh wrote:
<quoted text>You're such a boob. THE CASINOS PAY no taxes. They do however pay only an annual fee for a certain percentage of the TAKE. And this vote might never take place--since the Commission is targeted for cut backs by Corbett. The only two viable locations are in Pittsburgh and the Holiday Inn at I-83 and the Pa Turnpike. WHY? Because the new Attorney General is a Corbett relative from the P-burgh region, and the other location is near the Police & Fire Stations and has several EXISTING market places and easy access to major hubs and roads. What does the Eisenhower Inn have to offer ? Nothing. By the time anything gets built or renewed..first , the Bridge of Emmitsburg Road is now closed for at least 2 years due to replacement . There is no viable water sources, and after the so call massive events of the 150th anniversary---the Park will suffer all the proposed cut backs as it so righteously deserves. All those unrealistic and costly fences that never existed cost over a $1 million to maintain for grass cutters and trash clean-up. wood that could've been used to aid in keeping families warm in this region who BEGGED for the cut trees. And all the infrastructure in Gettysburg, came to halt due to the loss of funding that was earmarked by Rendell Rendell and his croonies really did us in. So, live with it. Jobs & Taxes by Casino.. not around here.
DUH, you don't even get it when someone is kidding around you really thought Jack was serious the DUH should be for you. I guess we will all find out next week. DUH !!!
No Casee No

Hanover, PA

#9 Apr 8, 2011
Can't wait to hear all the comments after the decision is revealed. The decision was made a while ago, but it has been fun.

Money talks! You lose!
junboibhi

Blairs Mills, PA

#10 Apr 8, 2011
Jack Kovis wrote:
well, it's about time, let's get this built so I don't have to pay taxes anymore.
if you really think you won't have to pay taxes any more because of this casino you are certifiably insane. possibly you are being sarcastic? let's hope so.
whomever

Philadelphia, PA

#11 Apr 8, 2011
I suggested in another thread that both sides get together in a hotel and kick the crap out of each other. I'll alter that now no matter which way it goes; why not get together in said hotel for an all out orgy?:) Sure beats all this yelling at each other.
Fire Marshal Bill

Gettysburg, PA

#12 Apr 8, 2011
Duh wrote:
<quoted text>You're such a boob. THE CASINOS PAY no taxes. They do however pay only an annual fee for a certain percentage of the TAKE. And this vote might never take place--since the Commission is targeted for cut backs by Corbett. The only two viable locations are in Pittsburgh and the Holiday Inn at I-83 and the Pa Turnpike. WHY? Because the new Attorney General is a Corbett relative from the P-burgh region, and the other location is near the Police & Fire Stations and has several EXISTING market places and easy access to major hubs and roads. What does the Eisenhower Inn have to offer ? Nothing. By the time anything gets built or renewed..first , the Bridge of Emmitsburg Road is now closed for at least 2 years due to replacement . There is no viable water sources, and after the so call massive events of the 150th anniversary---the Park will suffer all the proposed cut backs as it so righteously deserves. All those unrealistic and costly fences that never existed cost over a $1 million to maintain for grass cutters and trash clean-up. wood that could've been used to aid in keeping families warm in this region who BEGGED for the cut trees. And all the infrastructure in Gettysburg, came to halt due to the loss of funding that was earmarked by Rendell Rendell and his croonies really did us in. So, live with it. Jobs & Taxes by Casino.. not around here.
Duh, the property will pay local property taxes, and once improved the valure will go up, thus the taxes will go up.
56% of the gross from the slots will go to the state, with 1 % earmarked for the Adams County, and 1% earmarked for Cumberland Township.
You say there are only two viable locations, and of course that is your opinion. Nemacolin is not close to any of the major or well traveled highways. The Holiday Inn needed to move motor homes in to make up the number of required rooms, but it is closer to the interstate.
Mason Dixon is close to both Rt 15 and Rt 30 and both are well traveled US highways. I am not saying all, but most people traveling the interstate have a desdination and seldom get off except for fuel and food, although some are drawn from it for an attraction that gets their interest. But people traveling US highways are more than likely to exit because the exits are closer than the interstates.
Mason Dixon additionally has the draw of people visiting the area to visit the historical sites, as well as the many other local festivals that attract people to the area, what to Nemacolin and the Holiday Inn have to offer besides the casino?
The bridge will be out of service for about a year, and the other work they did just down the road was finished ahead of schedule, no guarantee, but this one could also. It will take Mason Dixon a while to renovate and open, so the bridge could possibly be open before Mason Dixon is ready or shortly after. Can you prove that there will NEVER be any road work that will hamper access to either of these other two?
As to water, that is of course only your opinion. It has been operating as a hotel for almost 40 years, so why would water be a problem for a casino if it isnít a problem for the hotel?
Not sure of the access to police and fire at the Holiday, but there are two fire stations within two miles of the proposed Mason Dixon, and there are police on that road all the time.
Yes as it stands after the 150th tourism will be practically dead as a result of the ďbigĒ one being over, but I see the Mason Dixon as something that MAY keep people coming back because there will be more attraction to the area. Something for the tourist to do 24/7/365 if the weather isnít good or after a day of touring and visiting historical attractions.
What unrealistic and costly fences are you talking about? As I recall the placement and type of fence on the GNMP now is pretty much in line with what was here at the time of the battle.
Have you noticed the work on West Middle street, and the upgrade of Steinwehr Ave.?
Fire Marshal Bill

Gettysburg, PA

#13 Apr 8, 2011
Jack Kovis wrote:
well, it's about time, let's get this built so I don't have to pay taxes anymore.
Jack, I donít believe there was any promise of No taxes, but tax relief.
Fire Marshal Bill

Gettysburg, PA

#14 Apr 8, 2011
Here we go again wrote:
If there's one thing we've all learned in the nation's fiscal crisis, you can't get out of the hole by gambling away your money (whether it is the taxpayer's money or an individual's money).
These are bold statements, so please make sure you're sitting down with both feet on the floor and your tray in its upright position:
Gambling does not benefit communities.
Gambling does not benefit families.
Gambling does not reduce deficits.
Gambling does not benefit children (OUR FUTURE).
Come to think of it, I can't think of a single positive feature of gambling, other than perhaps the few people who win big (which generally results in degradation of quality of life, and sometimes even bankruptcy, not to mention the stigma of being a child of big-winning gambling parents [Kid A: "How are your parents so rich?" Kid B: "They gambled my families' future and were very lucky".]
Yes, I know, what I say doesn't jive with the PA law (permitting gambling). Well, I don't think it takes a PhD to realize that so many things our government does are contrary to common sense and our best interests.(For example, why are there hundreds of school districts in our state, each with it's own highly-paid superintendent and administrators??? who thought up such a terribly-inefficient system???).
I rest my case..
You have rested your case, but once again let us point out that gambling is a matter of individual responsibility. And the information from other casinos already operating in Pennsylvania does not support all fo the gloom and doom that you and others are predicting.

Since it hasnít happened at other locations in PENNSYLVANIA what makes you so sure it will happen here?
Wayne

Hanover, PA

#15 Apr 8, 2011
whomever wrote:
I suggested in another thread that both sides get together in a hotel and kick the crap out of each other. I'll alter that now no matter which way it goes; why not get together in said hotel for an all out orgy?:) Sure beats all this yelling at each other.
An orgy with characters that call themselves Pinkeye and Baseball Mom??????????

I would hate to get pink eye and the baseball mom might be a he/she.
RedRocker

Hyattsville, MD

#16 Apr 8, 2011
NoCasino wrote:
It will never happen in Gettysburg. Even if LeVan gets his wish, people from all over will protest and it will never be built. This not a local issue no matter how hard they try to say it is. This is global. Just ask Ken Burns or Warren Buffet what they think! NoCasinoGettysburg!
This is global. What planet are you from? Trump planet? We have wars going on, Congress and the President are fighting over a budget, people are unemployed, the country is a mess. The structure has been built and it was built over 30 years ago. I know because I worked in the International Villages at the time. If the license is awarded it's a done deal. Neither you nor Susan "Star" nor Keith MiLiar nor any of the rest of you can stop it. Ken Burns and Warren Buffet don't live in Gettysburg and - aside from publicity and money - they don't care about Gettysburg. Take off your rose colored glasses and look at real life. What do you people plan to do? Are you going to arm yourselves with pitchforks, shovels, torches, etc and storm the Eisenhower Inn? Yes, you probably would.
Steven

Gettysburg, PA

#17 Apr 8, 2011
Here we go again wrote:
If there's one thing we've all learned in the nation's fiscal crisis, you can't get out of the hole by gambling away your money (whether it is the taxpayer's money or an individual's money).
These are bold statements, so please make sure you're sitting down with both feet on the floor and your tray in its upright position:
Gambling does not benefit communities.
Gambling does not benefit families.
Gambling does not reduce deficits.
Gambling does not benefit children (OUR FUTURE).
Come to think of it, I can't think of a single positive feature of gambling, other than perhaps the few people who win big (which generally results in degradation of quality of life, and sometimes even bankruptcy, not to mention the stigma of being a child of big-winning gambling parents [Kid A: "How are your parents so rich?" Kid B: "They gambled my families' future and were very lucky".]
Yes, I know, what I say doesn't jive with the PA law (permitting gambling). Well, I don't think it takes a PhD to realize that so many things our government does are contrary to common sense and our best interests.(For example, why are there hundreds of school districts in our state, each with it's own highly-paid superintendent and administrators??? who thought up such a terribly-inefficient system???).
I rest my case..
Does everything have to be family-friendly or for the almighty chilllllddddreeennnn???

Plenty of singles and childless couples need stuff to do, some kind of entertainment. I am so sick of everything by dictated by the almighty,precious family and children. Adults are people,too and need some kind of recreation, to get away from all those screaming brats.

Does everything have to be productive/beneficial??

According to that logic, movies,music and all other entertainment would not be welcome.

Addiction/crime etc

It's all about personal responsibility, hold the individuals accountable,not the establishment itself. Most gambles never develop a problem, only a tiny percentage do.
RedRocker

Hyattsville, MD

#18 Apr 8, 2011
Steven wrote:
<quoted text>
Does everything have to be family-friendly or for the almighty chilllllddddreeennnn???
Plenty of singles and childless couples need stuff to do, some kind of entertainment. I am so sick of everything by dictated by the almighty,precious family and children. Adults are people,too and need some kind of recreation, to get away from all those screaming brats.
Does everything have to be productive/beneficial??
According to that logic, movies,music and all other entertainment would not be welcome.
Addiction/crime etc
It's all about personal responsibility, hold the individuals accountable,not the establishment itself. Most gambles never develop a problem, only a tiny percentage do.
AMEN
No you should not

Gettysburg, PA

#19 Apr 8, 2011
"Lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil"
The Preservationist2

Gettysburg, PA

#20 Apr 8, 2011
NoCasino wrote:
It will never happen in Gettysburg. Even if LeVan gets his wish, people from all over will protest and it will never be built.
Sorry to hear that you are misinformed.
Nothing is being "built," in fact there is no new construction.
Not sure what you've been reading from the CIvil War Preservation Trust, but there is definitely no new construction in the project.

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