Authorities: Aide Beat Alzheimer's Patient With Belt Buckle

A former patient aide at an assisted living facility in King of Prussia is scheduled to go on trial in Montgomery County on charges that she beat an Alzheimer's patient with a belt buckle. Full Story
Momma

United States

#1 Jun 7, 2008
Until they pay caregivers (pre-school aides, nurses aides, etc) a decent wage the professions will continue to attract the dregs of society. We treat the workers like animals, they act like animals. If we all weren't chasing the "almighty dollar" maybe we could take the time to realize what is truly important. The media (newspapers, magazines, television, radio) has convinced us all that we need to have more and more useless stuff. Once we get on that treadmill, we can't get off. I see the problem but I don't have the answer.
madhatter

United States

#2 Nov 29, 2008
Gone are the days when medical personnel wore professional attire. Now you can't tell the difference between a doctor, nurse, maintenance worker, etc. Some of these people look totally disheveled and dirty. Many do not wash their hands when going from patient to patient and they use the same stethoscope on every patient without sanitizing. The bacteria in medical institutions is rampant. A medical facility should be sanitary and that is not the case. And paying more to these workers would not help. They would still attract the same type of people. It just seems that so many of them just hate their jobs and they don't want to do anything the dislike doing. They will ignore the patient and pass it on to the next shift nurse. I think they watch too many hospital tv shows where they don't show the nitty gritty work that is necessary in giving care. They go into these professions not wanting to get their hands dirty, so to speak. Many are hiring people that have criminal records in these places. From the experience I have gone through last year I can tell you that the whole system is broken. I saw neglect, mistakes and sub-standard care. Just yesterday I visited a hospital and the nurses on duty did nothing but complain. Nurses are not underpaid. They were ignoring a patient in the room I was visiting. She was a patient with dimentia and she was begging for food to eat. It was 8:00 pm in the evening and they had not given her dinner yet. They kept yelling at her and telling her she was leaving in 15 minutes anyway to go back to the nursing home. Someone finally brought the food and left. The woman could not attend to herself. I mentioned that someone should be helping her because she could not do this herself. This brought more complaints and finally an aide came in. It was so sad. The problem is when you have no one to stand in for you in these places, you get ignored. The woman never did eat the full meal even though she was starving and now they took her away to send her back to the nursing home. That meant this woman would not eat until the next morning. The nurses showed their disgust and did not try to hide their feelings. It was not like this years ago. Their was such a professional atmosphere in hospitals and the sanitation was superb. Nurses had to wear white clean uniforms and they could not walk into the hospital with them on, they had to dress for work in the hospital. Now I see these people out shopping in their contaminated soiled hospital clothes that they wear from home to work and then they handle patients. I don't see much hand-washing before handling patients. More deaths are caused by these filthy practices and I am afraid this problem will never be resolved.

“Your DQCC Limit is Maxed!”

Since: Sep 08

In Utero (originally)

#3 Dec 1, 2008
madhatter wrote:
Gone are the days when medical personnel wore professional attire. Now you can't tell the difference between a doctor, nurse, maintenance worker, etc. Some of these people look totally disheveled and dirty. Many do not wash their hands when going from patient to patient and they use the same stethoscope on every patient without sanitizing. The bacteria in medical institutions is rampant. A medical facility should be sanitary and that is not the case. And paying more to these workers would not help. They would still attract the same type of people. It just seems that so many of them just hate their jobs and they don't want to do anything the dislike doing. They will ignore the patient and pass it on to the next shift nurse. I think they watch too many hospital tv shows where they don't show the nitty gritty work that is necessary in giving care. They go into these professions not wanting to get their hands dirty, so to speak. Many are hiring people that have criminal records in these places. From the experience I have gone through last year I can tell you that the whole system is broken. I saw neglect, mistakes and sub-standard care. Just yesterday I visited a hospital and the nurses on duty did nothing but complain. Nurses are not underpaid. They were ignoring a patient in the room I was visiting. She was a patient with dimentia and she was begging for food to eat. It was 8:00 pm in the evening and they had not given her dinner yet. They kept yelling at her and telling her she was leaving in 15 minutes anyway to go back to the nursing home. Someone finally brought the food and left. The woman could not attend to herself. I mentioned that someone should be helping her because she could not do this herself. This brought more complaints and finally an aide came in. It was so sad. The problem is when you have no one to stand in for you in these places, you get ignored. The woman never did eat the full meal even though she was starving and now they took her away to send her back to the nursing home. That meant this woman would not eat until the next morning. The nurses showed their disgust and did not try to hide their feelings. It was not like this years ago. Their was such a professional atmosphere in hospitals and the sanitation was superb. Nurses had to wear white clean uniforms and they could not walk into the hospital with them on, they had to dress for work in the hospital. Now I see these people out shopping in their contaminated soiled hospital clothes that they wear from home to work and then they handle patients. I don't see much hand-washing before handling patients. More deaths are caused by these filthy practices and I am afraid this problem will never be resolved.
I whole heartedly concur with your assessment. When I had to finally make the decision to place my grandmother in a nursing facility prior to hospice, it was because my aunts decided to quit giving my grandmother her meds while I was working. At that point, I had to make decisions based on my grandmother's medical needs as her power of attorney. Sadly and to my dismay, I saw much of what you've described with many of the clients. The one's that received the worst treatment were the ones who never had family or friends visiting them.

I'd be with my grandmother when I wasn't working & typically on graveyard shifts too, and my aunts would take different shifts during the day or evening. Periodically one would stay with her on graveyard shift. It was appalling to hear the Nurse Call alarms going off all the time & no one would respond. People would ask me for assistance all the time. Even for simple things, they couldn't be bothered. It's disgusting how our society has little regard for our elderly and those afflicted with illness. Equally disgusting are that no one has respect anymore for human life and the lack of professionalism many lack at their jobs.

Since: Jul 08

West Chester PA

#4 Dec 1, 2008
Sarcastic Bombastic wrote:
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I whole heartedly concur with your assessment. When I had to finally make the decision to place my grandmother in a nursing facility prior to hospice, it was because my aunts decided to quit giving my grandmother her meds while I was working. At that point, I had to make decisions based on my grandmother's medical needs as her power of attorney. Sadly and to my dismay, I saw much of what you've described with many of the clients. The one's that received the worst treatment were the ones who never had family or friends visiting them.
I'd be with my grandmother when I wasn't working & typically on graveyard shifts too, and my aunts would take different shifts during the day or evening. Periodically one would stay with her on graveyard shift. It was appalling to hear the Nurse Call alarms going off all the time & no one would respond. People would ask me for assistance all the time. Even for simple things, they couldn't be bothered. It's disgusting how our society has little regard for our elderly and those afflicted with illness. Equally disgusting are that no one has respect anymore for human life and the lack of professionalism many lack at their jobs.
The problem is these people are not nurses, in most "homes" they are techs who go to "school" for 1-2 yrs and wipe A$$es and don't care about the people. You usually have 1 real nusre and a couple of techs in these places and the nurses are the one who can't work a a legit hospital.

“Your DQCC Limit is Maxed!”

Since: Sep 08

In Utero (originally)

#5 Dec 1, 2008
Angry Beaver wrote:
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The problem is these people are not nurses, in most "homes" they are techs who go to "school" for 1-2 yrs and wipe **** es and don't care about the people. You usually have 1 real nusre and a couple of techs in these places and the nurses are the one who can't work a a legit hospital.
Hi AB! You're right about it in some states; however, many states do require certifications. There are many nurses working in these facilities; however the ratios are way off with regard to nurse to patients. The problem is the certifications & background checks don't mean squat if the rules aren't going to be enforced or each state doesn't fund for more advocates to be checking conditions in these places.

Off topic: How's the weather in your neck of the woods? I miss NY & the East Coast. Haven't been there since approximately mid-2005. I miss NY, Jersey, Philly, and DC.
ganja_farmer

Allentown, PA

#6 Dec 1, 2008
How about they stop over working the aides. Stop giving them 20 residents to take care of. Do you know how hard it is to take care of 20 residents per day. You have to bathe them or give them sponge baths, dress them, take them to the dining room if they are able to sit and eat. Then there are some who a bed bound, you have to take the food to the room and feed them two spoonfuls because that is all you have time for. In other words the resident stays hungry and starts losing weight. All this time the RN or LPN sits in the nurses station and does not lift a finger to help. The salary is another problem. Aides finally decide they would work according to pay. Furthermore they get no respect and are looked at as shytcleaners. Absolutely no respect for all the work that they do.

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