War Vet Asks King To Remove Cross Fro...

War Vet Asks King To Remove Cross From Memorial

There are 46 comments on the Fox 8 WGHP story from Sep 22, 2010, titled War Vet Asks King To Remove Cross From Memorial. In it, Fox 8 WGHP reports that:

An Afghanistan war veteran has given officials in King until Friday to remove a cross from a memorial to war dead.

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Lokari

Mount Prospect, IL

#21 Sep 25, 2010
owlet798 wrote:
Maybe someone should remind this coward, the city atty, and the ACLU when necessary, that the cross was ORIGINALLY a pagan symbol, so it can stand for an atheist as well as a Christian.
You are apparently confused. Pagans are not at all the same thing as atheists. From the atheist perspective, Pagans are just as wrong as Christians.
Lokari

Mount Prospect, IL

#22 Sep 25, 2010
Dino Gianni wrote:
I do understand the constitution. I also realize this great country was founded on these values.
These two sentences contradict one another. If you believe the US was founded on Christian values, then you do not understand the Constitution.
Lokari

Mount Prospect, IL

#23 Sep 25, 2010
owlet798 wrote:
This is for Lokari...you should research before you say something about which you know nothing:
The Quran TEACHES VIOLENCE throughout the book. The terrorists ARE the true Muslims.
Yawn. The Christian Bible is chock full of horrible violence as well. So, by the criteria you appear to be applying, all Christians must be terrorists as well.
Lokariknowsevert hang

King, NC

#24 Sep 25, 2010
Lokari wrote:
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These two sentences contradict one another. If you believe the US was founded on Christian values, then you do not understand the Constitution.
You jest thank you know ever thang, dontcha. I jest farted, what did it smell like??
Lokariknowsevert hang

King, NC

#25 Sep 25, 2010
@lokari; thar i go again, what did this fart smell like? ok, i will tell you but dont ferget i want you to tell me how my other fart smelt like, cause you know ever thang. this last fart smelt like chilli, lol it tickled my bum a bit lol i had chilli tonight with cheese and corn chips i didnt want chilli for my vittles i wanted beens and cornbread but momma said no so i had chilli with cheese and cornchips. if i had beens and cornbread i betcha my coon dog, my second fart ya know the last one i jest ask you about it would of smelt like beens and cornbread. oops my bad thar goes another one im not tellin ya what that one smelt like cause you know ever thang so what did it smell like? i like people with smarts, will you be my frend?
Lokari

Mount Prospect, IL

#26 Sep 25, 2010
Lokariknowseverthang wrote:
@lokari; thar i go again, what did this fart smell like?
'Sullivan' I presume? Didn't take you long to resort to infantile behavior.
Lokariknowsevert hang

King, NC

#28 Sep 25, 2010
Lokari wrote:
<quoted text>
'Sullivan' I presume? Didn't take you long to resort to infantile behavior.
Wrong!! cee you dont know ever thang it didnt smell like sullivan it smelt like a orange. i ate a orange crayon wen momma wonten lookin. what is a sullivan? is it good? we dont by much from the end store momma got a gardan and she kills one cow and one hog ever year she makes our clothes i would like a store bought shirt but see wees aint rich oops thar i blowed a nother one out but i wont ask you what she smelt like cause now i no you dont no ever thang i wonted to be your frend when i thought you noed ever thang but now i no you dont no ever thang so i dont wont to be your frend cause see i got moor smarts then you caused i knowd what my farts smelt like you are jest like ever body else you dont know ever thang so like thay say on the price is right: goodby you are the weekest link! cause tha people you keep putin down got moor smarts then you so im gonna cee if thay will be my frend, i like people with smarts
Dino Gianni

Tobaccoville, NC

#30 Sep 26, 2010
Lokari wrote:
<quoted text>
These two sentences contradict one another. If you believe the US was founded on Christian values, then you do not understand the Constitution.
Thanks for having the power to tell me what I know. You must be an all knowing, all seeing individual. I DO understand the constitution. I DO know the values this country was founded with. There are examples everywhere. It is all over your money. Do you know the pledge of allegiance? It says "...under GOD...". Not Allah, not Buddha, not Muhammad.
It is there as a veterans memorial. The vets want it, they will have it.
Lokari

Mount Prospect, IL

#31 Sep 26, 2010
Dino Gianni wrote:
I DO understand the constitution. I DO know the values this country was founded with. There are examples everywhere. It is all over your money. Do you know the pledge of allegiance? It says "...under GOD...". Not Allah, not Buddha, not Muhammad.
Both of your examples merely serve to further underscore your lack of understanding. This country, you may recall from history class, was established in 1776. But the addition of "In god we trust" to bills and the "under god" phrase to the Pledge were both done in the 1950s - almost two centuries later - during the height of McCarthyism.

They had nothing to do with our founding values (which is also evidenced by the utter lack of references to Christianity or God in the US Constitution), but rather with the political machinations of the day.
hmm

Laurinburg, NC

#32 Sep 26, 2010
Dino Gianni wrote:
OK, it is government property. I do understand the constitution. I also realize this great country was founded on these values. Look at your money. It says in God we trust. Are you going to burn your money and claim that God is pushed down your throat? This flag and cross is at a veterans memorial at a park. If the vets want it, then they should have it.
this country was founded on the values of freedom and equality.

says nothing about a christian god there.

and last i checked the founders were diest.
Sullivan

King, NC

#33 Sep 26, 2010
Lokari wrote:
<quoted text>
Both of your examples merely serve to further underscore your lack of understanding. This country, you may recall from history class, was established in 1776. But the addition of "In god we trust" to bills and the "under god" phrase to the Pledge were both done in the 1950s - almost two centuries later - during the height of McCarthyism.
They had nothing to do with our founding values (which is also evidenced by the utter lack of references to Christianity or God in the US Constitution), but rather with the political machinations of the day.
Just to note: In God We Trust first showed up on money in 1864, on the two cent piece. The two cent piece was authorized by Congress on April 22, 1864
Ebane

United States

#34 Sep 26, 2010
Dino Gianni wrote:
Lokari wrote:
<quoted text>
These two sentences contradict one another. If you believe the US was founded on Christian values, then you do not understand the Constitution.
Thanks for having the power to tell me what I know. You must be an all knowing, all seeing individual. I DO understand the constitution. I DO know the values this country was founded with. There are examples everywhere. It is all over your money. Do you know the pledge of allegiance? It says "...under GOD...". Not Allah, not Buddha, not Muhammad.
It is there as a veterans memorial. The vets want it, they will have it.
Does it say"under jesus"? Ibelieve a judge will decide if the flag stays up or comes down. The" god" is a god of nature, a Deist god. This came from the enlightenment era and Voltaire.
Lokari

Mount Prospect, IL

#35 Sep 26, 2010
Sullivan wrote:
Just to note: In God We Trust first showed up on money in 1864, on the two cent piece. The two cent piece was authorized by Congress on April 22, 1864
I am impressed, you actually did research! I'm not being facetious here - all too often I get into discussion with people who "know what they know" and who refuse to actually investigate facts.

I knew, of course, about the phrase appearing on coins, which is why I carefully stated 'bills' in my post. I really didn't expect anyone to catch it. Thank you - I am pleasantly surprised!
Nam Vet Rat Pack 38

Stillwater, MN

#36 Oct 7, 2010
Expose this coward who hides behind the name "Steve". The Veterans and their families and the people of the community have a right to know who this coward is.
Tamerlane

Tallahassee, FL

#37 Oct 7, 2010
Nam Vet Rat Pack 38 wrote:
Expose this coward who hides behind the name "Steve". The Veterans and their families and the people of the community have a right to know who this coward is.
For what purpose?

Terrorism?
show me your god

Winston Salem, NC

#38 Oct 7, 2010
owlet798 wrote:
Maybe someone should remind this coward, the city atty, and the ACLU when necessary, that the cross was ORIGINALLY a pagan symbol, so it can stand for an atheist as well as a Christian.
For purposes of a lawsuit, WE can say it is our Christian symbol, and pagans can also claim it.
Have a read...http://www.albatrus.org /english/religions/pagan/origi n_of_cross.htm
If the christian flag, that was recently taken down, is objected to by atheists and is promoted by christians as a christian flag then its original purpose as a pagan flag is a moot point. To say that this flag could stand for atheists as well as christians is insincere.

I am an atheist and I do not claim this flag as a symbol for me. Would you please produce some names of other atheists that would claim it as a symbol for atheism?
just just

High Point, NC

#39 Oct 7, 2010
hmm wrote:
<quoted text> this country was founded on the values of freedom and equality.
says nothing about a christian god there.
and last i checked the founders were diest.
and just WHERE do you think ideals and values like freedom and equality came from? the same place our foundation of knowing right and wrong came from... God's word... we cant reliable on man to give us concepts to abide by that actually work and are not self destructive, or selfserving... democracy majority rules yeah thats biblical principals
Tamerlamne

Tallahassee, FL

#40 Oct 7, 2010
just just wrote:
<quoted text>
and just WHERE do you think ideals and values like freedom and equality came from? the same place our foundation of knowing right and wrong came from... God's word... we cant reliable on man to give us concepts to abide by that actually work and are not self destructive, or selfserving... democracy majority rules yeah thats biblical principals
Mmmmmm no actually it was the product of Enlightenment philosophy, not religion. Not that it matters.
So we did rely on Man. And by the way, the Bible is not exactly a manifesto for representative democracy.
Seek Truth

Fort Lawn, SC

#41 Oct 7, 2010
just just wrote:
<quoted text>
and just WHERE do you think ideals and values like freedom and equality came from? the same place our foundation of knowing right and wrong came from... God's word... we cant reliable on man to give us concepts to abide by that actually work and are not self destructive, or selfserving... democracy majority rules yeah thats biblical principals
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Camzmom

Indian Trail, NC

#43 Jan 6, 2015
So much for one nation under God! I am offended....when did we start only respecting the rights of non-Christians?

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