Is it time to start a new CB rescue s...

Is it time to start a new CB rescue squad?

Created by Outback on Jan 12, 2012

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Bill P

United States

#1 Jan 12, 2012
Disband. New Mission Statement. Train your new personnel. New Charter and better image.
College Kid

Smithfield, VA

#2 Jan 13, 2012
Bill P wrote:
Disband. New Mission Statement. Train your new personnel. New Charter and better image.
Couldn't agree more

“Dope Is Dope”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#3 Jan 14, 2012
You might want to think about that :) The closing corporation would put up the equipment for auction (liquidation) then throw one big party for fairwell. Going out on top from what I gather :) Your "new" corporation (unless the town outlawed VRS) would have to start over at ground zero. This is based on the assumption that the takeover would be considered hostile. Lay back relax and let CBVRS do the driving as they have so aptly done in the past. Check for a poison pill before you leap on any idea that sound good.

http://www.answers.com/topic/poison-pill

Since: Nov 09

Hughesville, MD

#4 Jan 14, 2012
Bill P wrote:
Disband. New Mission Statement. Train your new personnel. New Charter and better image.
You must have some DEEP POCKETS. Each of the units there is around 75-80 thousand equiped. You will need a building to store these unit in. You want to train new people- EMT class is about 3-4 month long, Cardic Tech is about 8-12 months. Where will you get the prople to cover the area while you TRAIN these people? How will you pay for fuel, lights, supplies, maintain vehicles, pager system, phone, heat for the NEW BUILDING you will have to build?

Better leave well enough along and let the Squad work out their problems. Will you be one of the new trained personnel along with some of the other non name prople that want all these changes but don't put their name to it.

Been there and done it for 8 years. Just Asking??

Steve

“Dope Is Dope”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#5 Jan 14, 2012
More info that should raise the comfort level. Good agent, I went to school with him :) He can hold a whole conversation and not say, "you know" one time :)

http://scc-internet.scc.virginia.gov/corporat...
EMS4Lyfe

Deltaville, VA

#6 Jan 15, 2012
This is a great idea. The state would assist in funding given the outcome of the current investigation. The leadership will start new and a new board should oversee the new membership. It all sounds too good to be true, but if they could get rid of the disfunctional leadership that is there now, then maybe the volunteers will step up and help. The other day, at 5:45 pm, Rescue Station 1 (volunteer crew), Engine Company 1 and Medic 2 (Mount Holly-30 minutes away) were toned out for a female choking on 10th St in the beach. Medic 1 and 3 were on transports and Medic 2 and Engine Company 1 responded. Medic 2 requested that the volunteer crew be dispatched again (10 minutes until their shift) with no response from station 1 at all. Medic 2 arrived on scene around 6:10, 10 minutes AFTER the volunteer crew came on duty! Way to go volunteers! A few minutes later a call went out for station one and Sparky's family marked en route. Makes me wonder if Sparky is still running around telling everyone 'not to respond while the paid crew is on'? I left last Winter before the station started crumbling so I don't know if they still do this. Any current or recent members, is Sparky still intentionally delaying patient care because of personal differences between him and 'the paid crew'?
Looking to come to CB

Urbanna, VA

#7 Jan 15, 2012
Sparky Sparky who the H*** is he?-- I was a guest at the CB Fire Department Banquet last evening and it was great --food awsome and the fire department and the women auxiliary worked together -- which I overheard that "SPARKY" made the ladies auxiliary at the rescue walk out. The Rescue Squad was complemented on their help with the storms in Colonial Beach this past year -- since I didn't know very many people I just sat and overheard people talking that "SPARKY" told the rescue personnel that they were not allowed to come to the banquet and if they did they would be bla bla bla -- who is this SPARKY. SPARKY you should of been there and why weren't you? Someone please tell this SPARKY guy that the FIRE DEPARTMENT and the Sparky's rescue squad NEEDS to work together.

The Truth

Gloucester, VA

#8 Jan 15, 2012
It makes no sense at all to disband and sell all the equipment and property. Your talking about a million dollar operation not a kids baseball team. Wouldnt it be easier to get rid of whomever is causing the problems and move forward. It has taken decades to get the rescue infrastructure that we have. It is totally rediculous to think of starting from scratch when we already have so much. Simply get rid of the problem people!
yea right

Urbanna, VA

#9 Jan 16, 2012
What ever happen about the Town looking into the problem? I remember at one Council Meeting where the Vice Mayor Byrkett (sp?) indictated they were investigating.
Love The Beach

Gloucester, VA

#10 Jan 16, 2012
Mr. Lyburn, head of the safety committee, is looking into it, as he again stated at the most recent council meeting. There is a safety committee meeting later this month at which it should be discussed.

“Dope Is Dope”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#11 Jan 16, 2012
The Truth wrote:
It makes no sense at all to disband and sell all the equipment and property. Your talking about a million dollar operation not a kids baseball team. Wouldnt it be easier to get rid of whomever is causing the problems and move forward. It has taken decades to get the rescue infrastructure that we have. It is totally rediculous to think of starting from scratch when we already have so much. Simply get rid of the problem people!
Your solution to the precieved problem may be as simple as instuting internal controls at the corporate level. Our police officers are issued cars as part of their compensation package. they are required to check in and out of the radio net with milage and purpose codes. The city sends them a statement at the end of the year on personal use of the vehicle for tax purposes. Additional restrictions are in place including a 50 mile radius limit. I fi9nd life is cyclical, and in most situations I can not control on my own this too shall pass. You look real good on paper, so cutting your nose off to spite your face may not be a viable option :) For SURE a re-build would be both messy and exspensive.
No reference for this post but a good clue would be the last 3 published annual reports on the squad web site :)
Inside Observation

Stafford, VA

#12 Jan 16, 2012
Under the disguise of providing emergency services, the squad has evolved into a safety net, honey hole and nothing short of a flophouse for a group of undesirable lowlifes. This group recently killed off the Ladies Auxiliary which had been a wholesome mainstay for the squad from its beginning. By any measure of society some of this group would be considered dysfunctional and there are others who would be hard pressed to pass health and mental evaluations. There are menbers who are no strangers to malicious wounding, sexual assualt, grand larceny and numeruos traffic and civil matters. There is no oversight for the hundreds of thousands of dollars that pass through the squad and it is common pratice for this group to use the squad's assets for their own personal gain. In short the squad has become a melting pot for bule-collar corruption.

The incorporated Town of Colonial Beach not only has a fiduciary obligation but is legally charged with providing for the health and safety of its citizens. It's time for the Town to clean up this digusting mess or provide the good citizens of CB with and alternative to the CBVRS.
WTCSRET

Goose Creek, SC

#13 Jan 16, 2012
Inside Observation wrote:
Under the disguise of providing emergency services, the squad has evolved into a safety net, honey hole and nothing short of a flophouse for a group of undesirable lowlifes. This group recently killed off the Ladies Auxiliary which had been a wholesome mainstay for the squad from its beginning. By any measure of society some of this group would be considered dysfunctional and there are others who would be hard pressed to pass health and mental evaluations. There are menbers who are no strangers to malicious wounding, sexual assualt, grand larceny and numeruos traffic and civil matters. There is no oversight for the hundreds of thousands of dollars that pass through the squad and it is common pratice for this group to use the squad's assets for their own personal gain. In short the squad has become a melting pot for bule-collar corruption.
The incorporated Town of Colonial Beach not only has a fiduciary obligation but is legally charged with providing for the health and safety of its citizens. It's time for the Town to clean up this digusting mess or provide the good citizens of CB with and alternative to the CBVRS.
If you have more than dust in the wind or a red herring follow this link and do yourself some tangable good :)
First one in gets the win :)
Tnhese are the same guys that put Big Al away :)

http://www.irs.gov/compliance/article/0,,id=1...
Open Your Eyes

Richmond, VA

#14 Jan 17, 2012
On Sunday, January 15th, the rescue squad implemented their new "Support Team." Headed by none other than Sparky's "significant other" and Wesley Melson's mother. Looks like the "Sparky Circle" is getting just a little bigger.
Bill P

United States

#15 Jan 17, 2012
Steves Locksmith wrote:
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You must have some DEEP POCKETS. Each of the units there is around 75-80 thousand equiped. You will need a building to store these unit in. You want to train new people- EMT class is about 3-4 month long, Cardic Tech is about 8-12 months. Where will you get the prople to cover the area while you TRAIN these people? How will you pay for fuel, lights, supplies, maintain vehicles, pager system, phone, heat for the NEW BUILDING you will have to build?
Better leave well enough along and let the Squad work out their problems. Will you be one of the new trained personnel along with some of the other non name prople that want all these changes but don't put their name to it.
Been there and done it for 8 years. Just Asking??
Steve
So just "kick the can down the road" and let the future take care of it? That is pretty short-sided thinking.
Bill P

United States

#16 Jan 17, 2012
WTCSRET wrote:
You might want to think about that :) The closing corporation would put up the equipment for auction (liquidation) then throw one big party for fairwell. Going out on top from what I gather :) Your "new" corporation (unless the town outlawed VRS) would have to start over at ground zero. This is based on the assumption that the takeover would be considered hostile. Lay back relax and let CBVRS do the driving as they have so aptly done in the past. Check for a poison pill before you leap on any idea that sound good.
http://www.answers.com/topic/poison-pill
That's not the intent. The organization can stand, but the shift in personnel has to be done. No one mentioned, except you, anything to do with selling equipment, facilities, or capabilities. Does Sparky or his minions physically own the vehicles or buildings, or does the organization? Keep the organization, but clean house. let's not throw the baby out with the bath water.
The Truth

Gloucester, VA

#17 Jan 17, 2012
Bill P wrote:
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That's not the intent. The organization can stand, but the shift in personnel has to be done. No one mentioned, except you, anything to do with selling equipment, facilities, or capabilities. Does Sparky or his minions physically own the vehicles or buildings, or does the organization? Keep the organization, but clean house. let's not throw the baby out with the bath water.
Bill P. I too must have misinterpreted your origional post. When you said disband, new mission statement, etc. I took it as closing down, liquidating, and starting from scratch as well. Thank you for clarifying this. I can support cleaning out undesirable personel, but not liquidating and starting from scratch at the expence of taxpayers and donors like myself.
smartass

United States

#18 Jan 17, 2012
The Truth wrote:
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Bill P. I too must have misinterpreted your origional post. When you said disband, new mission statement, etc. I took it as closing down, liquidating, and starting from scratch as well. Thank you for clarifying this. I can support cleaning out undesirable personel, but not liquidating and starting from scratch at the expence of taxpayers and donors like myself.
Yeah, you're pretty good at misinterpreting things.

“Dope Is Dope”

Since: Dec 09

Colonial Beach and Wash DC

#19 Jan 17, 2012
Bill P wrote:
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That's not the intent. The organization can stand, but the shift in personnel has to be done. No one mentioned, except you, anything to do with selling equipment, facilities, or capabilities. Does Sparky or his minions physically own the vehicles or buildings, or does the organization? Keep the organization, but clean house. let's not throw the baby out with the bath water.
Now see that's your problem. It's a free standing corporation. They have ELECTED to procede in the fashion that they are proceding, For whatever reason they have. That corporation owns it's equipment and assets. The voting members will decide how they operate and meet the needs they serve. You and anyone else who is not a member vote with YOUR MONEY. If the members get tired of all this they are fully capable of liquidating the corporation and letting you roll your own. You have 3 choices continue this and damage the CBVRS to the point it can not function. Don't contribute and start another CBVRS.(You can do that anytime)
Wait for an "adjustment" in by laws or policys that fit YOUR view of how it should be done.
Tom Thumb

Bladensburg, MD

#20 Jan 17, 2012
WTCSRET wrote:
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Now see that's your problem. It's a free standing corporation. They have ELECTED to procede in the fashion that they are proceding, For whatever reason they have. That corporation owns it's equipment and assets. The voting members will decide how they operate and meet the needs they serve. You and anyone else who is not a member vote with YOUR MONEY. If the members get tired of all this they are fully capable of liquidating the corporation and letting you roll your own. You have 3 choices continue this and damage the CBVRS to the point it can not function. Don't contribute and start another CBVRS.(You can do that anytime)
Wait for an "adjustment" in by laws or policys that fit YOUR view of how it should be done.
How can they be voted out or by-laws get correct when they have voted out everyone that have disagreed with them??? They have taken over everything and chased off those that care about the organization and helping people and not bowed down to Sparky and his crew...

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