Kennrth Copeland Gave Keith Moore Jet...

Kennrth Copeland Gave Keith Moore Jet Airplane

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Keith Moore

Forsyth, MO

#1 Mar 17, 2008
Money, Jets and Men of the Lord.

Mac Hammond's Citation 1, jet airplane,
wasn't the first aircraft
Kenneth Copeland has given away.
Copeland likes to hand out million-dollar jets as the spirit moves him.

According to Lynne Hammond, speaking to a prayer service about the gift, Copeland has given away 28 aircraft.

A source who has worked in Copeland's KCM empire says the generosity was consistent the prosperity gospel teaching of giving leading to greater blessings:

It was a source of pride to him that he was able to give a plane away when the Lord told him to... and every time he did, he was able to believe for a better one.

He's given Mac Gober several

[Gober was a leader in the campaign to acquire two $17-million Citation Xs for Copeland];

Jerry Savelle [who, like Hammond, serves on Copeland's board and would presumably have oversight of such transactions] at least two,

Keith Moore one (I think) and I can't remember who else, besides some individuals that just 'hit him right' if you know what I mean.

These gifts, of course, are ultimately funded by the tithes and contributions of the faithful presumably intended to spread the word of God and advance the ministry's work,

In the convoluted teaching of the prosperity gospel, Copeland and other evangelists don't "expect" followers to pay for their aircraft, and donors give out of love, without strings attached.

They are "believing" God for the next jet, the next building or the new television studio.

Donors give to God, though the checks are made out to Copeland, who will take it up with God to see if the jet is the right thing for him to have.

It usually is.

Jets aren't the only asset transfers among the ministerial friends and fellow board members. Gifts of luxury cars and cash are being investigated by the Grassley Senate Committee.

A lawsuit by a former Oral Roberts University accountant alleges the school had an unrestricted account that funneled money to regents, who included some of the evangelists Grassley is investigating.

The roundelay of mutual payments allows these ministers to report to their churches that they are supporting other ministries around the world including some of the very people involved in overseeing the organization's finances.

While the churches do sponsor schools, chemical dependency counseling, elder care and other forms of community outreach, much "ministry work" is virtually indistinguishable from marketing and fund raising.

Especially where the jets are involved. Honoraria sometimes change hands for these visits, though the reports to churches don't disclose who receives what.

A week ago, the Copelands were in town for the Hammonds.

This week, the Hammonds will be helping an Alexandria, LA, church with its "Great Expectations" campaign, while the Copelands show up in Branson, MO, for Keith Moore's "Victory Campaign."

A week later, Moore is in Minnesota, perhaps arriving on one of his Kenneth Copeland jets.

Not dizzy yet?

There's another ministry in Branson run by Billye Brim, who like Hammond and Moore, appeared at Copeland's Ministers Conference.

Brim has given a jet to Copeland, and so has Creflo Dollar, one of the Big Six being investigated by Grassley.

http://greatdivide.typepad.com/across_the_gre...
dontknowdou1bran soncom

Humble, TX

#2 Mar 22, 2008
I'll take a jet
terry jerrel

Rockwall, TX

#3 Jul 17, 2008
It sounds like to me, that there are some people out there carring a little envy. I know how hard it is to make ends meet these days, and I like the idea of people being accountable to others.

But if you look at this from Gods point of veiw,what would he say? Well done my good and fathful servant, or it is better for you to have a mill stone tied around your neck. Before anyone should be investagated, there needs to be a whole lot of prayer being done!
I personally dont see any thing wrong with what the "big six" are doing. If belivers dont want to give to the Copeland's min, then dont.
Just a thought.
missionsman2002 at yahoo

Greenville, TX

#4 Aug 2, 2008
What's so wrong about giving away a jet? I've given away computers, a truck, money, clothes, money, etc. I've given to strangers and here's the really bad part, I've actually given to people that are my friends. What was Kenneth Copeland thinking when he did that?
God has always taken care of me and my family and I believe He always will. The Bible says, "...freely you have received, freely give."
erica

Branson, MO

#5 Aug 4, 2008
i have given several boys herpes.
Old School

Hillsborough, NJ

#6 Aug 4, 2008
Having worked with Jim and Tammy for several years,this is how it starts.

Try to biblicaly justify stuff like this.
This is not being a good steward of GODS money.

Don't justify things because you like someone.
Hold them accountible.

“KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS”

Since: Apr 08

somewhere out there

#7 Aug 4, 2008
Old School wrote:
Having worked with Jim and Tammy for several years,this is how it starts.
Try to biblicaly justify stuff like this.
This is not being a good steward of GODS money.
Don't justify things because you like someone.
Hold them accountible.
Do you watch Jim and Lori on TV now, they have Morningside now in Missouri and Jim is doing Gods work and being blessed by God at Morningside. Ive been there and seen it.

“KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS”

Since: Apr 08

somewhere out there

#8 Aug 4, 2008
erica wrote:
i have given several boys herpes.
Honey you need God in your life.Ask God to forgive you and clean up your ways. I wouldnt be proud of something like that. God bless you and deliver you from sin.
Ancestor_Hunter

Indianola, MS

#9 Aug 4, 2008
God is evil

“KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS”

Since: Apr 08

somewhere out there

#10 Aug 4, 2008
Ancestor_Hunter wrote:
God is evil
Well hello Ancestor want-a-be... Ran out of names did ya???? ROFLMBO
mrsblanton

Athens, OH

#11 Aug 4, 2008
Keith Moore wrote:
Money, Jets and Men of the Lord.
Mac Hammond's Citation 1, jet airplane,
wasn't the first aircraft
Kenneth Copeland has given away.
Copeland likes to hand out million-dollar jets as the spirit moves him.
According to Lynne Hammond, speaking to a prayer service about the gift, Copeland has given away 28 aircraft.
A source who has worked in Copeland's KCM empire says the generosity was consistent the prosperity gospel teaching of giving leading to greater blessings:
It was a source of pride to him that he was able to give a plane away when the Lord told him to... and every time he did, he was able to believe for a better one.
He's given Mac Gober several
[Gober was a leader in the campaign to acquire two $17-million Citation Xs for Copeland];
Jerry Savelle [who, like Hammond, serves on Copeland's board and would presumably have oversight of such transactions] at least two,
Keith Moore one (I think) and I can't remember who else, besides some individuals that just 'hit him right' if you know what I mean.
These gifts, of course, are ultimately funded by the tithes and contributions of the faithful presumably intended to spread the word of God and advance the ministry's work,
In the convoluted teaching of the prosperity gospel, Copeland and other evangelists don't "expect" followers to pay for their aircraft, and donors give out of love, without strings attached.
They are "believing" God for the next jet, the next building or the new television studio.
Donors give to God, though the checks are made out to Copeland, who will take it up with God to see if the jet is the right thing for him to have.
It usually is.
Jets aren't the only asset transfers among the ministerial friends and fellow board members. Gifts of luxury cars and cash are being investigated by the Grassley Senate Committee.
A lawsuit by a former Oral Roberts University accountant alleges the school had an unrestricted account that funneled money to regents, who included some of the evangelists Grassley is investigating.
The roundelay of mutual payments allows these ministers to report to their churches that they are supporting other ministries around the world including some of the very people involved in overseeing the organization's finances.
While the churches do sponsor schools, chemical dependency counseling, elder care and other forms of community outreach, much "ministry work" is virtually indistinguishable from marketing and fund raising.
Especially where the jets are involved. Honoraria sometimes change hands for these visits, though the reports to churches don't disclose who receives what.
A week ago, the Copelands were in town for the Hammonds.
This week, the Hammonds will be helping an Alexandria, LA, church with its "Great Expectations" campaign, while the Copelands show up in Branson, MO, for Keith Moore's "Victory Campaign."
A week later, Moore is in Minnesota, perhaps arriving on one of his Kenneth Copeland jets.
Not dizzy yet?
There's another ministry in Branson run by Billye Brim, who like Hammond and Moore, appeared at Copeland's Ministers Conference.
Brim has given a jet to Copeland, and so has Creflo Dollar, one of the Big Six being investigated by Grassley.
http://greatdivide.typepad.com/across_the_gre...
Why wouldn't people who have a strong belief that they feel they are to spread to the public support others who are working to the same goal? The only real issue is if they are not following the laws of the land.
lillylamb

Overland Park, KS

#12 Nov 22, 2008
I would say that what these ministers do is between them and God. What I do is between me and God. Period.

“KING OF KINGS & LORD OF LORDS”

Since: Apr 08

somewhere out there

#13 Nov 22, 2008
lillylamb wrote:
I would say that what these ministers do is between them and God. What I do is between me and God. Period.
DITTO
Bag of Bones

West Plains, MO

#14 Nov 26, 2008
Churches need to be TAXED.

The idea that they should somehow be exempt is complete B.S.

They are businesses that prey on the feeble minded. Send your money to them so all the Preachers, Priests, etc. can live great lives of leisure.

GOD does NOT need your money ...fools. But if you are ignorant enought to send it, they should be taxed, as any other business.
cofograd

Maysville, OK

#15 Dec 13, 2008
when i worked at cofo as a student I met Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. She was upset that a LUXURY car rental wasn't available. He boasted how his car dealership in texas was doing well. He then went to the bathroom and forgot his GOLD ROLEX n the sink. wake up you stupid fools. you dont need a slick fast talking preacher to get to heaven. STOP giving away your money.
Batman John

Humble, TX

#16 Dec 16, 2008
I had to get rid of my batmobile cause now crime is down, I lost my job and could not afford the insurance. Is it cheaper for a jet? The BatJet has a nice ring to it.
kelly hol

Humble, TX

#17 Dec 16, 2008
whatever
Ana Leblanc

Atlanta, GA

#18 Jan 3, 2009
I am so excited to hear that keith Moore now has his own jet. I've been blessed by keith Moore, his wife and there ministry for almost 20 years now.I say go Lord, bless them some more. I lived in Georgia for 7 years and attended many meetings which they ministered at. they are a true blessing of the Lord and deserve all blessings they get. Lord give Kenneth and Gloria a special blessing for blessing the Moores.
Robert Bledsoe

Murfreesboro, TN

#19 Jan 27, 2009
I gave someone a small motorcycle last year. Call me if you want to run a story on it.

Pastor Bledsoe
Questions

East Lansing, MI

#20 Mar 7, 2009
A post from earlier on this thread. Can anyone else verify this?

cofograd
Atlanta, GA
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|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#15 Dec 13, 2008
when i worked at cofo as a student I met Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. She was upset that a LUXURY car rental wasn't available. He boasted how his car dealership in texas was doing well. He then went to the bathroom and forgot his GOLD ROLEX n the sink. wake up you stupid fools. you dont need a slick fast talking preacher to get to heaven. STOP giving away your money.

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