Domestic Prisoners of Conscience Luc ...

Domestic Prisoners of Conscience Luc Boys Ranch

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Luc Boys Ranch Lampe Mo

Ozark, MO

#1 Apr 16, 2013
Hubert Smith
from
Måløv, Denmark
wrote this
about the Luc Boys Ranch in Lampe,Missouri.

Disgrunted employee or not. Something is not right at this place. I am volunteer for a NGO in Europe called "Domestic prisoners of Conscience". Our job is to scan the internet for news about foster families, group homes, boarding schools which leave the children in a worse position after they have left than before they arrived.

We have already reported LUC boys Ranch to www.FornitsWiki.com which is a database covering more than 30 countries and the further investigation will be carried out by local support groups.

We are among the groups who have forced very large organizations like WWASP and Aspen Education Group to close several of their programs and we will see to that boys who have been at the ranch leaving less satisfied with their stay will be allowed to tell why they feel like they do.

The truth about this place is out there somewhere. When two boys aged that young seem to be willing to do terrible acts just to escape a place, we must look on what made them do it. Otherwise the local community will never be safe because the boys will be leaving the ranch at some point. They can be held back there forever.

When two boys aged that young seem to be willing to do terrible acts just to escape a place, we must look on what made them do it.
Those boys didn't need to murder two people to escape. They had already escaped the compound!

The ranch didn't cause those boys to commit murder. They did it because they are bad. They were bad before being placed at the ranch. If you want to find out what caused them to do it, look at their character, or lack of it.

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guest
from the
United States
wrote this:>

And since you're on another f-u-c-k-i-m continent, mind your own
f-u-c-k-i-m damn business.
We wash our own dirty laundry around here,
and we don't need any f-u-c-k-i-m foreigners poking
their f-u-c-k-i-m noses into our f-u-c-k-i-m business.
melissa

Ozark, MO

#2 May 26, 2013
this man is up to no good and getting 50k a boy to work them to death, shove cultish christianity upon them among other abuses i suspect.
guest

Ridgedale, MO

#3 May 27, 2013
So don't send your kid there. If other parents choose to send theirs, it's none of your business.
FUqLUC

Springfield, MO

#4 Jun 2, 2013
Lives Under Corruption was a hellish, nazi-like slave camp. Ken Ortman and everyone involved with that facility should be brought up on charges, stripped of their freedoms, and deported. I was forced to work on crutches after double knee surgery (which was a result of abuse) and in a back brace (I was told by a chiropractor and a doctor that I needed back surgery after an accident at the Ranch's farm). I was never allowed to see the doc again. I should've earned thousands of dollars after working my ass off and literally being broken down into a bloody pulp. I left there with nothing. That place trained me to be a much more vengeful criminal.
guest

Ridgedale, MO

#5 Jun 3, 2013
If you had a valid claim, you would long ago have filed a civil lawsuit. We know you're just spewing b.s.
That place trained me to be a much more vengeful criminal.
So you admit you were already a vengeful criminal before you went to LUC. That condition arises from your own lack of character, not a failure of LUC.

I suppose you'd rather have been put in prison as a teenager to be abused by many as their butt boy.
guest

United States

#6 Jul 19, 2013
To the guest who said don't send your kid there and leave those alone who do. As someone who knows parents that sent their boy there, I do not think for a minute they would have sent him there if he was going to be sleep deprived beaten and treated like an animal. This was suppose to be a a Christian environment where God's love would shape him and help him. Isn't this type of treatment against the law or at the least cultish ,certainly not Christian.
guest

Eureka Springs, AR

#7 Jul 20, 2013
Like I said, if you don't like it, don't send your kid there. If other parents choose to send theirs, it's none of your business.
actually been there

Park Hills, MO

#8 Aug 12, 2013
dont talk about it unless you know the place. its hell and i know who the kid is who wrote that a fuqluc because I was their when he was. im guessing he arrive their sometime in 06' if im not mistaken. and what he said isnt completely unfounded and incorrect.
Curious Mother

United States

#9 Aug 19, 2013
So tell me more. I have a totally incorrigable 15 year old. I care about him. He is going the wrong direction.(Drugs and rebellion). How has this camp affected you? Where are you headed now?
Thanks.
actually been there wrote:
dont talk about it unless you know the place. its hell and i know who the kid is who wrote that a fuqluc because I was their when he was. im guessing he arrive their sometime in 06' if im not mistaken. and what he said isnt completely unfounded and incorrect.
luc boy1995-1997

Bourbonnais, IL

#10 Jan 10, 2014
I'm glad the truth is coming out! Down with luck! Who ever the guest and others defending luck you are insane and dishonest. or maybe you don't know what your talking about. anyone defending or participating in luc operations will pay! Karma is real!! Or in your own insane beliefs..burn in hell!!!!!! They slave work kids to build their buildings for free and then discharge them after a couple years with no improvement in attitude or behavior! They come out worse! I am one of them and so our multiple friends I've stayed in touch with. ken belongs in prison for abuse. When I was there in the 90's there was talk about sheila inappropriately touching boys, look into that.
guest

Ridgedale, MO

#11 Jan 11, 2014
luc boy1995-1997 wrote:
They slave work kids to build their buildings for free and then discharge them after a couple years with no improvement in attitude or behavior! They come out worse! I am one of them.
Yeah, we can tell.

People who don't want to change their attitude and behavior won't. You had a chance to turn your life around, but you chose otherwise and actually became worse. That isn't LUC's fault, it's yours.

So tell us, after 17 years since being at LUC, how's that shitty attitude and bad behavior working out for you? How much time have you spent in jail or prison? How many jobs have you been fired from? How many relationships/marriages have failed for you?

You were given an opportunity, but you turned your back on it. No one is responsible for you except you.
Guest

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Jan 5, 2015
I was put in the ranch by my mother when I was 13 years old. I did hate the place as a matter of fact I stole vehicles twice to escape there. But both times I ended up back there. I spent 3 years of my life there and truthfully I am a better person because of it. Ken ortman is a good man.
Ranch boy

Los Angeles, CA

#14 Jan 5, 2015
Guest wrote:
I was put in the ranch by my mother when I was 13 years old. I did hate the place as a matter of fact I stole vehicles twice to escape there. But both times I ended up back there. I spent 3 years of my life there and truthfully I am a better person because of it. Ken ortman is a good man.
I have a wife of 11 years and new son. I have maintained the same job I have now for 6 years. I have never been fired or jailed since leaving luc. Some of the kids sent there are past fixing. Ken would except anyone while I was there any way. This may have been the main problem some kids are too far gone and want to help everyone.
CityGirl

Quapaw, OK

#15 Jan 15, 2015
Seems like Jim Bakker spends more time merchandizing and politicking than he does preaching. And, the "donations" are all tax deductible for the purchaser. BTW does Jim still owe money to IRS for back taxes? I pay my taxes every year!!!!!
Chris

Hollywood, FL

#16 Jun 1, 2016
I went to this camp at the age of 13. I am now 23 years old and still to this day rue luc. They are mentality abusive, physically abusive, slave drivers. When you pay for your kid to go there just because he got in some trouble you have no idea how horrible you are going to effect your child! All they do is scream, put you to work stripping metal

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