CCISD Budget Shortfall

CCISD Budget Shortfall

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Dawg4Life

Waco, TX

#1 Feb 2, 2014
Copperas Cove ISD is losing money this year due to the loss of Heavy Impact Aid. All eyes should be on the school board and the superintendent and what they are going to do about it other than cut personnel. This superintendent was quite possibly the worst they could hire. Funny guy; short on business acumen.

The city can share the blame in this to because of the lack of focus on bringing anything other than service economy jobs to this city and a heavy reliance on the military as a revenue maker. Oh, by the way, those new businesses don't pay the taxes they should to sustain the city's property tax revenue.

Discuss.
LMBO

Killeen, TX

#2 Feb 2, 2014
Lay the blame where it should be, at the top, elected officials for both CCISD and the City Council for questionable oversight but mostly on the Superintendent and the City Manager they are the ones charged with running the school district and the city.
EOW7

Killeen, TX

#3 Feb 3, 2014
Why did we increase the athletic budget last year (over 20K) in the middle of a turn down? Remember a few short years ago when the CCISD recieved a windfall of cash and was doing crazy things with the money?(sending a French teacher to France for a "learning trip) and paying Rose and her husband a large "bonus" to retire (25K each). Well maybe we should have saved some of that for a rainy day.
Dawg4Life

Waco, TX

#4 Feb 3, 2014
There is money in our general fund. The last Executive Director of Business made sure of that. 50k is nothing compared to what the district just lost.
Unthinkable

Killeen, TX

#5 Feb 3, 2014
I wonder if we are looking at another CCISD property tax increase.
Dawg4Life

Waco, TX

#6 Feb 3, 2014
Word on the street was that the superintendent was complaining to the city government about the need to increase the property tax. That's why we start hearing the moans and groans about the veterans property tax exemptions. Everything we do or don't do in this city has a direct effect on everything.
EOW7

Killeen, TX

#7 Feb 4, 2014
If 50K is nothing, please send me a nothing check, I'll bet if you ask any teacher what they could do with 50K they would have some great answers. Giving away taxpayer money to someone who is already very wealthy and already announced their retirement (s) was a waist. So please next time you give away money, take it out of YOUR bank account. Thanks
Kenn Smith

Waco, TX

#8 Feb 4, 2014
Dawg4Life wrote:
Word on the street was that the superintendent was complaining to the city government about the need to increase the property tax. That's why we start hearing the moans and groans about the veterans property tax exemptions. Everything we do or don't do in this city has a direct effect on everything.
That makes no sense. The city property tax rate and the ISD tax rate are two unrelated taxes. We could push the city property tax rate up a bunch and the ISD would not see a cent of it.
Yep

Killeen, TX

#9 Feb 28, 2014
Dawg4Life is right! Board hired a superintendent from little old Vidor, Tx. that does NOT understand the importance of impact aid. He laid people off in Vidor ISD too!

What's shameful is that the board renewed this superintendent's contract into 2018 thus securing his future. Then they hired a deputy superintendent for curriculum who gets a six-figure paycheck! Where did the money to pay this lady come from?

Employee lay offs will directly impact the students in Cove. You can't lose $12 million dollars and pretend that the education cuts won't change the quality of programs within the schools.

This superintendent needs to learn to network with businesses, EDC, realtors etc. to attract more military to live in Cove. The guy needs to learn some marketing strategies and how to sell Cove!

Cove ISD also needs to work harder to get the impact aid surveys back for next year. This superintendent's move to lobby and change impact aid formula is a long term solution. Laws don't change easily.

No sense in crying about Rose Cameron and past history. That money's gone. Now look to the future. Board needs to get a leader in place that understands the local system and how military school districts do business. This current guy has brought a negative image to Cove schools with all the proposed cuts!

What parent wants to send their kid to a school district that is hurting for money? Do the work to change the image of Cove ISD, get the surveys back next year and get a superintendent that takes the schools in a better direction!
Unthinkable

Stephenville, TX

#10 Feb 28, 2014
With the proposed massive troop reductions Cove needs to plan that impact aid is gone forever.
WhoEver

Waco, TX

#11 Feb 28, 2014
Unthinkable wrote:
With the proposed massive troop reductions Cove needs to plan that impact aid is gone forever.
Impact Aid isn't going to go away and the proposed reduction in Army end strength has a tough fight in Congress. The proposed FY 15 or 16 Fy's could well increase the fort;s population, not decrease it.
Unthinkable

Stephenville, TX

#12 Feb 28, 2014
If the Army goes to pre-WW2 levels there is no way that Hood will escape cuts. Prior to the big war we had no troops in Japan, Korea, Africa and Germany and other exotic places.

The only way Hood gains troops is if many bases close and this is a big maybe at best.

Plan for the worst and pray for the best.
Darnall

Haslet, TX

#13 Mar 3, 2014
Has anyone seen the massive size of Darnall Hospital? Troop strength may decrease but tons of soldiers will be coming to Ft. Hood to train, work at this gigantic hospital.

Cove leadership needs to capitalize on this and get newcomers to move to Cove.

Look at the new Cinemark theater expansion that is about to happen, the huge HEB, Five Hills Shopping Center etc. Cove has things to offer.

The time to MARKET Copperas Cove, "the city built for family living" is now.

Coveites please help the not savvy and military unaware superintendent get on the ball and collect that impact aid. His idea to "change" impact aid law will be a long time coming.
Unthinkable

Stephenville, TX

#14 Mar 3, 2014
I've talked with a knowledgable civil servant that claims that the new gigantic hospital is not scheduled to put on anymore staff over what the old hospital has.

More troops training at Hood will not help with the impact aid problem.

Also, all this low income housing that has been or going to be built is a negative as far as the impact aid goes.

I think Cove's impact aid is gone forever.
Forever

Killeen, TX

#15 Mar 3, 2014
Impact aid is gone forever? Sure it is! That is if you stay below the needed numbers then heavy impact aid may be gone forever.

35% was the mark Cove ISD needed to get the impact aid and the news says they got 34.08%

Based on that 34.08% Cove ISD got would it be hundreds of military connected families that Cove needed to get to that 35% mark? Nope! Do the math.

Impact aid can't be gone "forever" since its a program that was put in place to compensate school districts near military bases.

Ft. Hood isn't closing any time this century because Texas is a veteran friendly state. Central Texas has experienced a growth due to the military that are choosing to stay here.

Getting impact aid is a matter of strategizing and networking to help get military connected families to settle in Cove.

If there is lack of effort to get miltary families to move to Cove and no push/incentive to get those impact aid surveys back then impact aid could be gone forever.

Maybe some people want impact aid to be gone so they can raise taxes in Cove.

Why the board in Cove brought in a guy that had no idea how to work with a military connected district is a mystery. But then again maybe it's not.

Maybe a guy that tells the news that Cove ISD could go bankrupt in 3 years is exactly the man Cove needs to generate more taxes for school funding.
Unthinkable

Stephenville, TX

#16 Mar 3, 2014
Forever wrote:
Impact aid is gone forever? Sure it is! That is if you stay below the needed numbers then heavy impact aid may be gone forever.

35% was the mark Cove ISD needed to get the impact aid and the news says they got 34.08%

Based on that 34.08% Cove ISD got would it be hundreds of military connected families that Cove needed to get to that 35% mark? Nope! Do the math.

Impact aid can't be gone "forever" since its a program that was put in place to compensate school districts near military bases.

Ft. Hood isn't closing any time this century because Texas is a veteran friendly state. Central Texas has experienced a growth due to the military that are choosing to stay here.

Getting impact aid is a matter of strategizing and networking to help get military connected families to settle in Cove.

If there is lack of effort to get miltary families to move to Cove and no push/incentive to get those impact aid surveys back then impact aid could be gone forever.

Maybe some people want impact aid to be gone so they can raise taxes in Cove.

Why the board in Cove brought in a guy that had no idea how to work with a military connected district is a mystery. But then again maybe it's not.

Maybe a guy that tells the news that Cove ISD could go bankrupt in 3 years is exactly the man Cove needs to generate more taxes for school funding.
IMO the inability to make the 35 percent mark has more to do with the poor economy, lack of quality of life in the City for Family Living and the high City property taxes.

I doubt any one person is responsible for us losing impact aid.
Fall guy

Killeen, TX

#17 Mar 3, 2014
It is one person that was responsible for not placing emphasis on getting the surveys back.

If the superintendent was truly clueless as to the importance of getting those impact aid surveys back then he is no longer unaware now.

It'll be interesting to see what reforms (if any) he will propose for the board and what the ISD will institute for the next school year in terms of getting those impact aid surveys back.

Other local districts near Ft. Hood knock themselves out getting those surveys back. What did Cove ISD do under his watch in terms of getting those surveys back?

$12 million is a big chunk of money to lose because Cove ISD fell .92% short of the 35% military connected families needed to collect heavy impact aid.

Less than 1% of those surveys were needed to get that $12 million.

Cove ISD pays their superintendent a six figure salary. They should expect him as the leader of the school district to make some efforts to increase impact aid numbers for next year.

His effort to change impact aid law is good but the Feds won't fall for it. Other ISDs will be lined up for money too if they lower the threshold to get heavy impact aid and there's only so much to go around.

Maybe after taxes are increased, Cove ISD will magically get the numbers they need for heavy impact aid. Lol!
Unthinkable

Stephenville, TX

#18 Mar 3, 2014
Fall guy wrote:
It is one person that was responsible for not placing emphasis on getting the surveys back.

If the superintendent was truly clueless as to the importance of getting those impact aid surveys back then he is no longer unaware now.

It'll be interesting to see what reforms (if any) he will propose for the board and what the ISD will institute for the next school year in terms of getting those impact aid surveys back.

Other local districts near Ft. Hood knock themselves out getting those surveys back. What did Cove ISD do under his watch in terms of getting those surveys back?

$12 million is a big chunk of money to lose because Cove ISD fell .92% short of the 35% military connected families needed to collect heavy impact aid.

Less than 1% of those surveys were needed to get that $12 million.

Cove ISD pays their superintendent a six figure salary. They should expect him as the leader of the school district to make some efforts to increase impact aid numbers for next year.

His effort to change impact aid law is good but the Feds won't fall for it. Other ISDs will be lined up for money too if they lower the threshold to get heavy impact aid and there's only so much to go around.

Maybe after taxes are increased, Cove ISD will magically get the numbers they need for heavy impact aid. Lol!
If it is a fact that we missed the 35 percent mark because some surveys were not turned is poor stewardship.

The CCISD should have a master list of families with students in the district. If surveys aren't returned volunteers from the PTA could be sent out to get the surveys in person.
Quality

United States

#19 Mar 4, 2014
As far as the quality of life in Cove goes and attracting military families to settle there, it's about as good as quality of life in Killeen and Harker Heights.

Movie theater is nice, expansion of 5 Hills shopping center with new restaurants is ongoing, commute to San Antonio for a leisure weekend is easy access. Heck there's even a Starbucks! City Park is beautiful. Lots of trees and shade compared to parks in nearby cities.

Homes are far less money as compared to H. Heights for sure. Places like Morse Valley subdivision have good housing and cost less money to rent or buy.

Killeen is low end compared to Cove in many ways but if people wanted to actually enjoy a weekend in Killeen (lol!) it would be a 10 minute drive.
Unthinkable

Stephenville, TX

#20 Mar 4, 2014
If Cove was such a great place to live; why is it so hard to get military families to move here?

There must be a reason!!!!!!

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