Killeen's council members miss many w...

Killeen's council members miss many workshops

There are 14 comments on the Killeen Daily Herald story from May 1, 2010, titled Killeen's council members miss many workshops. In it, Killeen Daily Herald reports that:

By Hailey Persinger Killeen Daily Herald Killeen City Council members have accumulated more than 50 workshop absences in the past 11 months - a period of time laden with controversial topics such as city employee health insurance, use of the downtown First Baptist Church property and the appointment of the city's municipal court judge.

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Since: Oct 08

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#1 May 3, 2010
Seems standards are slipping. I remember a time when all elected officials had to be at all the meetings and there was a limit to the number of excuses allowed during a single term.

These people made a promise to represent us and missing so many meetings is not representing.

If you can't do the job, then let someone who wants to, do it. Ed Frazee ran for council, but came up a few votes short. I'd let him do the job.
KilleensCorrupt

Temple, TX

#2 May 3, 2010
I know the real meanings behind the excuses.

"Workman:You guys at the Daily Herald are just being racist. As a matter of fact all of the workshops are racist. EVERYBODY IS RACIST !"

"Wilkerson:My plans of being a criminal Bell County rep is more important along with looking neato on public access to get that additional support."

"Purser:My centextalk buddies need me in a thread discussion. I'll attend one as soon as i'm done helping rick adjust his skirt and panties."

"Larry Cole: My centextalk buddies, hip replacements, and my egostroking blog called the Cole Zone is of vital importance for the fake role of improving Killeen. Did you just say something about workshops? I have a blog post that requires my fingers and attention"

"Cosper: Cutting meat and watching high school football in my turd stained undies has more value than workshops. By the way smokers are evil just ask my closet lovers Rivera and Wells."

"Rivera: Insurance scamming and telling smokers they are evil are my only elected jobs, but I do kiss ass with wells and cosper at all thoes KISD sporting events in Leo Buckley stadium so that should count for something."

"Wells: Duh Duh Duh........Just take Rivera and Cospers words and mix them with mine! You smokers are filthy btw."

"Hancock: I GOT NO TIME FOR WORKSHOP JIBBER JABBA! I GOTTA GET TO THE DIRTY BUS STATION!"

Since: Oct 08

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#3 May 3, 2010
See, all that that kind of talk does is discredits any discussions about them. Instead of insulting them, we try and work with those who are more willing to work with others and vote out those who blatantly abuse their position.

Workman does have his issues, but he does oppose allowing the developers to do whatever they please lowering the standards of Killeen

Wilkerson is not a problem because even though he mugs for the camera, his heart is in the right place and he supports some more positive actions like more cultural activites and education for the area.

Purser, Cole, and Cosper are part of the developer problem and should be voted out.

Rivera is only a problem because he listens to the wrong people and votes the wrong way sometimes.

Wells doesn't have a problem and is trying to do the right thing and makes his choices straight up. I can't knock a person because their stance on 1 subject alienates a few smokers.

Hancock is just being a mayor and has let the position go to his head. The same thing happened with Jouett. They became mayor and then they started acting strangely and forgot what it meant to do their job right.
KilleensCorrupt

Temple, TX

#4 May 3, 2010
I refuse to cooperate with any snakes that pushes out ordinances with no respect of others or voter insight. Just look at their blatant arrogance in forcing no smoking in restaurants. Now they're going for bingo halls and bars. These criminals knew what they were doing and you might be a sitting duck, but i'm not.
Violater

Killeen, TX

#5 May 4, 2010
Well the one running for higher Office is the one with the most absences, He's like an opportunistic virus that just will not go away. He did absolutely nothing for district 4 and now wants voted in at county level, hahahahaha not gonna happen bud. I refuse to cooperate with people with hidden agendas I.E the Council, Mayor and his cronies.
Feddup

AOL

#6 May 11, 2010
Lets face it. The more ordnances and city regulations, the worse things get.
Does anyone really think:
"More ordnances = more fines = more money for the city"?
when what usually happens is:
"More ordnances = more complaints = more counter-complaints = bigger workloads for Code Enforcement officers = need to hire more officers = higher taxes for citizens"!
As for those cameras to catch "red light runners", they will be paid for mostly by anyone unlucky enough to be caught in an itersection when the yellow light turns RED. When the light turns yellow, every driver knows there is a split-second decision to either stop in time, or to continue on through.
That decision is based on:
"Speed + vehicle weight + how close to the traffic light when it changes + good sense + driving experience = no accidents or traffic tickets".
People who drive recklessly or DUI are not likely to pay traffic fines. It is generally cheaper for them to move to another state, change their identity, and get another drivers license, until they finally get themselves killed or crash into someone else.

Since: May 10

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#7 May 11, 2010
The problem is not so much about ordinances as it is about wasteful spending.
caredenuff

Waco, TX

#8 May 12, 2010
shortchange wrote:
Workman does have his issues, but he does oppose allowing the developers to do whatever they please lowering the standards of Killeen.
His problem is he will have served and term limited out and not done a thing. No leadership, does not take charge , and has alienated himself from the rest of the counsel and cant get anything done. Lets not forget that his misses many meetings and workshops. Bet he makes the DC trips, cocktail parties and dinners though. I wonder how many meetings he makes on those excursions.

Did he make worshop this week? Has anyone looked?

Since: Oct 08

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#9 May 12, 2010
caredenuff wrote:
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His problem is he will have served and term limited out and not done a thing. No leadership, does not take charge , and has alienated himself from the rest of the counsel and cant get anything done. Lets not forget that his misses many meetings and workshops. Bet he makes the DC trips, cocktail parties and dinners though. I wonder how many meetings he makes on those excursions.
Did he make worshop this week? Has anyone looked?
Excellent questions that I'd like to know too.

With the rest, he has no leadership because he said he wouldn't work with the developers because he thinks they have too much power. That's automatically alienated him from the start.

With no power because he's not towing the line, means he probably questions why he's there.

If you were in that position, what would you do? Would you go along with the guys who are symapthetic to the developers or would you try to voice your opposition?

I do not agree that he miss all those meetings though. He should have done a better job at attending the meeting no matter how feeble his power was.
caredenuff

Waco, TX

#10 May 12, 2010
He has no leadership because every thing is a racial issue to him, no other reason. He should be able to lead any type of business and industry and all types of people by now.

He doesn't want to. Or he doesn't know how to. What a limited view for a politician this day and time.

This here thang's gotta go.
Violater

Killeen, TX

#11 May 13, 2010
caredenuff wrote:
He has no leadership because every thing is a racial issue to him, no other reason. He should be able to lead any type of business and industry and all types of people by now.
He doesn't want to. Or he doesn't know how to. What a limited view for a politician this day and time.
This here thang's gotta go.
So what your saying is he's a racist. If that's the case we need to send him packing.
Not Very Smart

Killeen, TX

#13 Apr 19, 2011
As my name says, I'm not very smart, but it appears to me that only two types of folks seem to want to run for council.

Group A I generally consider pretty sharp, but they have an agenda. Kinda like the folks who are willing to coach baseball because they have kids playing. You can tell this group because once elected, they get streets and services run into areas that they have an interest. Let's face it,city staffers work for the city manager right? Of course, but,city manager works for council, so who can blame city staff for recommending the projects that Group A is pushing.

Group B seems to be those that aren't quite smart enough to figure out that being on the council is not fun and games, it is quite a lot of work. Not saying that these are dumb folks, it is just that running a government of any sort is actually very complicated business. Knowing what the actual reaction to each action is going to be, is like being able to fortell the future......next to impossible.

So, what happens in practice is that Group A with the help of city staff convinces Group B to vote their way. Don't worry about the good of all or fairness, everyone can't get their way, so Group A makes sure that they are the winners.

Sorry, I don't have any answers as to what can be done, just an observation. I told you that I wasn't Very Smart to start with..
getserious

Satellite Provider

#14 Apr 28, 2011
Wlikerson and Workman are both closet racist. They are of the group of blacks that think if anyone does not agree with them, then they must hate blacks. They need to go quickly because they are not helping Killeen at all. Developers and real estate people should never be in a position to even remotely influence codes or development projects. They whole mess of them need to be removed and some honest people put in there.

Since: Nov 09

Killeen, TX

#15 May 2, 2011
This is out of the city Code of Ordinances regarding absences...
Persons appointed to city boards, commissions or committees can be effective members
only if they attend the groups’ meetings regularly. In case of excessive absences, a board,
commission, or committee member can be removed from office. Missing three (3) consecutive
meetings or more than twenty-five (25) percent of the meetings in a twelve-month period where
the board, commission, or committee meets more than four (4) times per year shall constitute
excessive absences.“Missing a meeting” shall be construed to include stating to a city staff
member or other person seeking information about the member's availability for a regularly
scheduled meeting that the member will not be available to attend such meeting. This provision
shall apply even if such meeting is subsequently canceled or postponed due to lack of a quorum.
“Missing a meeting” shall not be construed to include an excused absence as determined by the
president or chair.

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