Foolish

Killeen, TX

#21 Aug 5, 2008
And how are you paying for your college? I'm guessing the good ole GI bill. It was only a waste of 8 years if you let it.

Since: Dec 07

Killeen, TX

#22 Aug 5, 2008
J Murtha wrote:
I served with soldiers of all branches while
in the service, I,m speaking on what I observed
while I was in. The majority of the soldiers are
brainwashed, but the Army is by far the worst.
I,m not trying to knock anyone, these are things
that I wanted to say when I was in and couldnt.
And yes I did reenlist, and I now realize that
It was a mistake. I would have been further in
life financially if I wouldnt have bought into
the rubbish. What I mean is,the majority of
the senior NCO,S try to make you believe that
the service is all there is in life, they use the
scare tactic like you will never be able to get
a decent job, Im speaking on facts, I was an NCO
and I made those comments to lower ranking soldiers, I,m 27 years old and attending college
to become a lawyer, I just feel like I wasted 8
good years of my life in the service, I would
have completed my law degree if not for the Air Force
First, the only branch that has Soldiers is the Army. Marines are not Soldiers they are Marines, Navy guys are Sailors, Air Force is Airman. Second, IF as an NCO you did not have the moral courage to speak your mind, then you are the problem. I am a Senior NCO, my job is Signal, I am a network Analyst, I wont bore you with the certifications I have, there are to many to fit on my business card. 5 years ago I was facing a medical board and the minimum offer I had from companies on the outside was 95K to start, plus benefits. I never reenlisted to make money, I did it because I love what I do, I love to serve my Country and my fellow Americans. OK, you decided to get out and now bad mouth the Military. Tell me this, Is the GI Bill helping you pay for your education? I hope you turned it down, and your paying for it yourself, since the Military did nothing for you?
J Murtha

United States

#23 Aug 5, 2008
Taxed Out wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope college life improves your sentence structure.
Stick to the topic, Scholar Boy
J Murtha

United States

#24 Aug 5, 2008
U_S_ Army_NCO wrote:
<quoted text>
First, the only branch that has Soldiers is the Army. Marines are not Soldiers they are Marines, Navy guys are Sailors, Air Force is Airman. Second, IF as an NCO you did not have the moral courage to speak your mind, then you are the problem. I am a Senior NCO, my job is Signal, I am a network Analyst, I wont bore you with the certifications I have, there are to many to fit on my business card. 5 years ago I was facing a medical board and the minimum offer I had from companies on the outside was 95K to start, plus benefits. I never reenlisted to make money, I did it because I love what I do, I love to serve my Country and my fellow Americans. OK, you decided to get out and now bad mouth the Military. Tell me this, Is the GI Bill helping you pay for your education? I hope you turned it down, and your paying for it yourself, since the Military did nothing for you?
This is a prime example of what I,m speaking on,
this NCO is not speaking his true feelings, Its
what hes been led to believe, Stop trying to
be so politically correct and speak your d.. mind.
All this garbage about soldiers, and you turning
down $95 K, give me a break. One point that I
would like to make clear, Im not knocking the
military, and yes Im using the GI Bill, I had
a great time in the military, I traveled places
and did things that were really terrific,Im
speaking on what I observed in my 8 yrs, I really
believe that most soldiers are to politically
correct and cant think for themselves while they
are in, especially the Army and Marines soldiers,
they are by far the most brainwashed
J Murtha

United States

#25 Aug 5, 2008
Taxed Out wrote:
<quoted text>
I hope college life improves your sentence structure.
This is an open forum, not an English class, if you can use your pea brain to discuss the topix,
the go away
J Murtha

United States

#26 Aug 5, 2008
Then Go Away, You Wanna Be Scholar

Since: Dec 07

Killeen, TX

#27 Aug 5, 2008
J, do a search on any job site and see what a CCNA can pull down with 22 years experience. I am a 25B48, certified instructor and training developer. Network Analyst is a great field. The good pay will be there when I get out. Again, I have never failed to speak my mind to my seniors, my peers or my troops. Do not get defensive just because you did not have the Moral courage to speak up. That was your problem, not the Military.

Since: Apr 07

Deep In The Heart Of Texas

#28 Aug 8, 2008
J Murtha wrote:
<quoted text>
Stick to the topic, Scholar Boy
Bless your heart - not only is sentence structure an objective, so is assuming a gender.
to the angry liberal

Harker Heights, TX

#29 Aug 10, 2008
Oh...poor Murtha...he doesn't like to be picked on. If you can't take the heat then get out of the kitchen. It is pretty bad when you have to result to calling other people pea brains when it is obvious your's isn't that big either.
J Murtha

United States

#30 Aug 11, 2008
Taxed Out wrote:
<quoted text>
Bless your heart - not only is sentence structure an objective, so is assuming a gender.
Stick to the topic, you person
J Murtha

United States

#31 Aug 11, 2008
Taxed Out wrote:
<quoted text>
Bless your heart - not only is sentence structure an objective, so is assuming a gender.
Use your pea brain to discuss the topic, you person

Since: Dec 07

Killeen, TX

#32 Aug 11, 2008
J Murtha wrote:
<quoted text>
Use your pea brain to discuss the topic, you person
I have attempted several times to discuss the topic. You ignore my comments. Moral Courage is what you lack. I hope you learn some while you study Law. Inability to speak your mind will not serve you in any career you care to pursue.

Since: Aug 08

Houston

#33 Aug 11, 2008
I admit that I tried to give him the benefit of doubt. However, he has certainly removed any and all doubt. And to consider this childish behavior is coming from a 27 year old that is hoping to become a lawyer??? If you think the military was bad, wait until you get out into the real world and compete for a job. With that type of attitude, I can only see another college education going to waste, as he isn't likely to get very far, trying to make his case in front of a judge and telling him/her to "use your pea brain, your honor." I think that closing argument is really going to take him far... all the way to a cell for contempt of court.

If you can't substantiate your point with facts, reasoning, and perhaps a bit of courtesy, you aren't going to be much of a lawyer. Maybe... just MAYBE, you might grow up a little by the time you finish school.

Since: Dec 07

Killeen, TX

#34 Aug 11, 2008
txauctioneer wrote:
I admit that I tried to give him the benefit of doubt. However, he has certainly removed any and all doubt. And to consider this childish behavior is coming from a 27 year old that is hoping to become a lawyer??? If you think the military was bad, wait until you get out into the real world and compete for a job. With that type of attitude, I can only see another college education going to waste, as he isn't likely to get very far, trying to make his case in front of a judge and telling him/her to "use your pea brain, your honor." I think that closing argument is really going to take him far... all the way to a cell for contempt of court.
If you can't substantiate your point with facts, reasoning, and perhaps a bit of courtesy, you aren't going to be much of a lawyer. Maybe... just MAYBE, you might grow up a little by the time you finish school.
We can hope, I have called into question his Moral courage several times and he has yet to address it. Perhaps I hit to close to the mark.
Cash

Killeen, TX

#35 Sep 3, 2008
The forum head line is good but what is all of the banter about, I am really missing the point here.
ok then

Harker Heights, TX

#36 Sep 6, 2008
As usual someone posted something on here to get rise out of people and it worked. Then the conversation went to proper grammar or lack there of. It got derailed because we'd like to think most CSM's have some sense of how to use English if they made it that far in rank (which we know isn't necessarily the case, example George W. Bush Commander is Chief doesn't even use proper English).
Anyway, hope that clarified it for you. It is topix and usually there is a fair amount of senseless banter or ranting on here. It comes with the territory I guess. Who has the energy to be proper 100% of the time anyway.
AtotheJ

Columbus, OH

#37 Sep 7, 2008
well I am currently downrange. I do come to the realization that we are not necessarily programmed. I am proficient at my job, but not programmed. I know it very well, and if our CO gets mad at me because i tell him someting in relation to my job. No worries to me. The more specialized your field, the more you can stand up for what you know and belive is right. As for the airfoce, I cannot stand someone who is Airforce complaining. I CHOSE the Army and am not mad i did. would not change it for the world. However, i hear daily about soem of the USAF guys complaining about where we are. It is not that bad and they are only here for one month at a time. Ungrateful bastards. thats what i say. I soemtimes get tired of them for sure. we had more KIA in one firefight than the USAF had all year where i am located now. Times 10. K Thanks Neat. i am having time now to complete my degree downrange and when i am in garrison in the ARMY. It might be laziness because the USAF is way more lax in the job. My brother is currently in, and someone i work with is a reclass. I hear about the comparisons all the time and its way better on the blue side. Its about desire and want.

Since: Sep 08

Temple, TX

#38 Sep 10, 2008
U_S_ Army_NCO wrote:
Again, I have never failed to speak my mind to my seniors, my peers or my troops. Do not get defensive just because you did not have the Moral courage to speak up. That was your problem, not the Military.
NCO wins comment of the day!:::Applause:::

Since: Sep 08

Hillsborough, NC

#39 Sep 10, 2008
J Murtha wrote:
I served with soldiers of all branches while
in the service, I,m speaking on what I observed
while I was in. The majority of the soldiers are
brainwashed, but the Army is by far the worst.
I,m not trying to knock anyone, these are things
that I wanted to say when I was in and couldnt.
And yes I did reenlist, and I now realize that
It was a mistake. I would have been further in
life financially if I wouldnt have bought into
the rubbish. What I mean is,the majority of
the senior NCO,S try to make you believe that
the service is all there is in life, they use the
scare tactic like you will never be able to get
a decent job, Im speaking on facts, I was an NCO
and I made those comments to lower ranking soldiers, I,m 27 years old and attending college
to become a lawyer, I just feel like I wasted 8
good years of my life in the service, I would
have completed my law degree if not for the Air Force
How could you be "not trying to knock anyone" when you make such a generalized thread./rolls eyes at this guy

Since: Sep 08

Tyler Texas

#40 Sep 11, 2008
can we all just get along!!!!

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