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jomtien

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Nov 1, 2007
 
I trust that all of you out there know where the Senate President is coming from. Hanabusa is into the blame game not to mention that the Superferry officials did not kiss her ring. What a sham when you have someone of her status elected by her collegues to be the Senate President. That says something about our elected officials. Now lets hope that she and her collegues do not do anything to force the Superferry to go belly up. Good luck Superferry. I look forward to taking my car with me to Maui and Kauai.
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#2
Nov 1, 2007
 
How does corruption of the Hawaiian government affect the values of its people? At least one lawmaker stood up, "State Rep. Hermina Morita, D-14th (Hanalei, Anahola, Kapa'a), said the House was emasculating the courts and the rule of law....how cheap we sold the credibility and respectability of this institution and our moral compass."

When the moral compass of the people is set to the winds by government corruption what does this say of the long held "aloha" spirit of Hawaii.

Since: Oct 07

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#3
Nov 1, 2007
 
So now the law has been made to give the people of Hawaii what they want. While all won't ever agree, it is reason that must bring us together. We must hope that the environmental impact study finds that we have not caused irreparable harm. We must all do our part, as pro or no Superferry to stay civil and to continue to support our views with action, not illegal protesting. That action being getting our county councils and government at all levels to stop approving projects that overdevelop our most limited resource, land.
While we move forward we must realize that we are all the stewards of our quality of life.

We won't ever agree on this issue, so let's agree not to agree. But lets work together. Those of us for the ferry also want environmental protections. I can support many activities of the Sierra Club and Maui Tomorrow, just not this one.

We on Oahu are alarmed at rampant development too. Kakaako, Central Oahu, Hawaii Kai, the Windward side all are filled with projects that caused traffic problems, destroyed flora and fauna and, and simply disregarded the island infrastructure. Kauai and Maui you are not alone. But progress will happen. It is our collective apathy that betrays us. Get on councils and neighborhood boards, see that your voice is heard. Don't stay on the sidelines just because it's not your neighborhood that is being changed. Register and vote.

When Superferry resumes service the marketplace will be the real power that determines its survival. Use it or don't. Speak out for or against it. But don't use fear and intimidation to bully those not supporting your view. Jumping in the water is not going to do anything to stop the service. You will be the only one harmed and then your monetary resources will be used to keep your freedom, not to further the well being of you and your family or your cause.

There is still much that can be done. Start by forming your groups into political forces that fix the real problems. But remember that negative talk like who is Hawaiian and who is not, or who is haoli and who is not, or who is kamaaina and who is not is just name calling and serves no purpose to ally others with you.

Contact the governor if your concerns are not being addressed. Remember, Gov. Lingle won't be governor as the bill just passed reaches its repeal date. Contact Belt Collins to see that they know issues you would have them address and study. Contact the DOT or DLNR too.

Better to assist Superferry users to be responsible in the areas of invasive species. Post signs in your businesses that encourage a car wash, or tell how users can best protect your island and theirs. Make environmental protection the norm and not just something to worry about sometime. Get your heads together to take positive action.

Get your whale watching boats to be more responsible for these creatures. Support research that helps identify the increase of the species and finds ways to really protect it.

And realize that traffic will be a minimally affected in many cases as vehicles move about in two directions from island to island.

A new day for Hawaii begins the middle of this month when Superferry resumes service. I will be on it soon and look to enjoy the hospitality and ohana of my neighbors in this land we call paradise.
Kira Girl

Honolulu, HI

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Nov 1, 2007
 
Stick to the Subject wrote:
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One of the most positive posts seen lately. I predict, however, a lot of posts made after yours will be name-calling and aggressive instead of trying to work for the betterment of all. Have a nice day.
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Nov 1, 2007
 
Stick to the Subject wrote:
So now the law has been made to give the people of Hawaii what they want. While all won't ever agree, it is reason that must bring us together. We must hope that the environmental impact study finds that we have not caused irreparable harm. We must all do our part, as pro or no Superferry to stay civil and to continue to support our views with action, not illegal protesting. That action being getting our county councils and government at all levels to stop approving projects that overdevelop our most limited resource, land.
While we move forward we must realize that we are all the stewards of our quality of life.
We won't ever agree on this issue, so let's agree not to agree. But lets work together. Those of us for the ferry also want environmental protections. I can support many activities of the Sierra Club and Maui Tomorrow, just not this one.
We on Oahu are alarmed at rampant development too. Kakaako, Central Oahu, Hawaii Kai, the Windward side all are filled with projects that caused traffic problems, destroyed flora and fauna and, and simply disregarded the island infrastructure. Kauai and Maui you are not alone. But progress will happen. It is our collective apathy that betrays us. Get on councils and neighborhood boards, see that your voice is heard. Don't stay on the sidelines just because it's not your neighborhood that is being changed. Register and vote.
When Superferry resumes service the marketplace will be the real power that determines its survival. Use it or don't. Speak out for or against it. But don't use fear and intimidation to bully those not supporting your view. Jumping in the water is not going to do anything to stop the service. You will be the only one harmed and then your monetary resources will be used to keep your freedom, not to further the well being of you and your family or your cause.
There is still much that can be done. Start by forming your groups into political forces that fix the real problems. But remember that negative talk like who is Hawaiian and who is not, or who is haoli and who is not, or who is kamaaina and who is not is just name calling and serves no purpose to ally others with you.
Contact the governor if your concerns are not being addressed. Remember, Gov. Lingle won't be governor as the bill just passed reaches its repeal date. Contact Belt Collins to see that they know issues you would have them address and study. Contact the DOT or DLNR too.
Better to assist Superferry users to be responsible in the areas of invasive species. Post signs in your businesses that encourage a car wash, or tell how users can best protect your island and theirs. Make environmental protection the norm and not just something to worry about sometime. Get your heads together to take positive action.
Get your whale watching boats to be more responsible for these creatures. Support research that helps identify the increase of the species and finds ways to really protect it.
And realize that traffic will be a minimally affected in many cases as vehicles move about in two directions from island to island.
A new day for Hawaii begins the middle of this month when Superferry resumes service. I will be on it soon and look to enjoy the hospitality and ohana of my neighbors in this land we call paradise.
AMEN!!!!!!!
Sad day for Hawaii

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Nov 1, 2007
 
We are now the laughing stock of the country. They are comparing us to a Banana Republic. You Oahu people think you're going to jump in your car and have easy, traffic-free driving when you get here, but you're mistaken, cuz we have twice the population, but the same tiny roads we had in 1970. Don't expect us to greet you with open arms either, because this has been shoved down our throats despite our best grassroots efforts to warn you of the environmental consequences that will affect you as well as the rest of the state.
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#8
Nov 1, 2007
 
Justice has prevailed. Kudos to the "Stick to the Subject" post above.
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#9
Nov 1, 2007
 
Who does research for these guys? Now they put a condition in the bill that is unattainable; an incindental take permit from NOAA could take two years. Mahalos to Ms. Morita and Maile and the others who voted their conscience. To the rest of the sheep all I can say is "Baa".

Since: Oct 07

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#10
Nov 1, 2007
 
Dear Sad,

It's OK to vent your frustrations. But in a few days stop and realize that those of us from Oahu are not your enemies. We welcome you to Oahu via ferry or flight just as we trust you'll welcome us. The Senate listened to you when they came to the neighbor islands. The bill just passed has taken many of your thoughts and concerns into account. And Gov. Lingle, however you may regard her, is going to define more that will probably address your concerns.

Join one of your island groups or steer the one you are in to be heard. Be a proactive supporter of the environment. Join your local civic clubs that have your Senator or Representative's ear. Or contact them directly. Because they are more easily assessable here in Hawaii than in most other states. Accept the will of the majority, but work positively to convert us, not alienate us.

Aloha nui to you.

“s'up”

Since: Sep 07

Davis, CA now King City, CA

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#11
Nov 1, 2007
 
As predicted weeks ago. Game, set and match. Scoreboard.

Respect the process. Roll on SF, roll on.
Kapaa

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Nov 1, 2007
 
Stick to the Subject wrote:
So now the law has been made to give the people of Hawaii what they want. While all won't ever agree, it is reason that must bring us together. We must hope that the environmental impact study finds that we have not caused irreparable harm. We must all do our part, as pro or no Superferry to stay civil and to continue to support our views with action, not illegal protesting. That action being getting our county councils and government at all levels to stop approving projects that overdevelop our most limited resource, land.
While we move forward we must realize that we are all the stewards of our quality of life.
We won't ever agree on this issue, so let's agree not to agree. But lets work together. Those of us for the ferry also want environmental protections. I can support many activities of the Sierra Club and Maui Tomorrow, just not this one.
We on Oahu are alarmed at rampant development too. Kakaako, Central Oahu, Hawaii Kai, the Windward side all are filled with projects that caused traffic problems, destroyed flora and fauna and, and simply disregarded the island infrastructure. Kauai and Maui you are not alone. But progress will happen. It is our collective apathy that betrays us. Get on councils and neighborhood boards, see that your voice is heard. Don't stay on the sidelines just because it's not your neighborhood that is being changed. Register and vote.
When Superferry resumes service the marketplace will be the real power that determines its survival. Use it or don't. Speak out for or against it. But don't use fear and intimidation to bully those not supporting your view. Jumping in the water is not going to do anything to stop the service. You will be the only one harmed and then your monetary resources will be used to keep your freedom, not to further the well being of you and your family or your cause.
There is still much that can be done. Start by forming your groups into political forces that fix the real problems. But remember that negative talk like who is Hawaiian and who is not, or who is haoli and who is not, or who is kamaaina and who is not is just name calling and serves no purpose to ally others with you.
Contact the governor if your concerns are not being addressed. Remember, Gov. Lingle won't be governor as the bill just passed reaches its repeal date. Contact Belt Collins to see that they know issues you would have them address and study. Contact the DOT or DLNR too.
Better to assist Superferry users to be responsible in the areas of invasive species. Post signs in your businesses that encourage a car wash, or tell how users can best protect your island and theirs. Make environmental protection the norm and not just something to worry about sometime. Get your heads together to take positive action.
Get your whale watching boats to be more responsible for these creatures. Support research that helps identify the increase of the species and finds ways to really protect it.
And realize that traffic will be a minimally affected in many cases as vehicles move about in two directions from island to island.
A new day for Hawaii begins the middle of this month when Superferry resumes service. I will be on it soon and look to enjoy the hospitality and ohana of my neighbors in this land we call paradise.
ITs not over yet!!!!!!!
Kapaa

Maunaloa, HI

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Nov 1, 2007
 
Sad day for Hawaii wrote:
We are now the laughing stock of the country. They are comparing us to a Banana Republic. You Oahu people think you're going to jump in your car and have easy, traffic-free driving when you get here, but you're mistaken, cuz we have twice the population, but the same tiny roads we had in 1970. Don't expect us to greet you with open arms either, because this has been shoved down our throats despite our best grassroots efforts to warn you of the environmental consequences that will affect you as well as the rest of the state.
Anybody with 5$ fare tickets BEWARE you will get your moneys worth.Warning! do not come on the first boat,or the 2and or3rd.You have been warned NOCOMEKAUAI!!!!
Go SF

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#15
Nov 1, 2007
 
Now, I can go more often to visit my relatives in Kauai, Maui, and Big Island. Also, they can visit me here in Oahu. Too..........bad for the reps and the senator who oppose the SF. Next election you will be out. Too........bad for the Sierra Club!!!!! Hurry for SF!!!!!!!!!!
Hoku

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Nov 1, 2007
 
Stick to the Subject wrote:
Dear Sad,
It's OK to vent your frustrations. But in a few days stop and realize that those of us from Oahu are not your enemies. We welcome you to Oahu via ferry or flight just as we trust you'll welcome us. The Senate listened to you when they came to the neighbor islands. The bill just passed has taken many of your thoughts and concerns into account. And Gov. Lingle, however you may regard her, is going to define more that will probably address your concerns.
Join one of your island groups or steer the one you are in to be heard. Be a proactive supporter of the environment. Join your local civic clubs that have your Senator or Representative's ear. Or contact them directly. Because they are more easily assessable here in Hawaii than in most other states. Accept the will of the majority, but work positively to convert us, not alienate us.
Aloha nui to you.
Good posts. Only time will tell whether this ferry service benefits or harms Hawaii. Your earlier comment about our collective apathy was especially apt. Thanks for extending an olive branch rather than gloating.
Upset with Lingle HSF

Honolulu, HI

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Nov 1, 2007
 
To Stick to the Subject:

As I understand it, there were many groups on the outer islands that got together and brought their concerns to Lingle, DOT and Superferry officials long ago in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2006. But Lingle, DOT and Superferry didn't listen. Had Lingle, DOT and Superferry listened back then and did the EIS, this entire mess would not have occurred.

We had organized, civil groups that politely brought their concerns to our government and business officials, but the latter ignored them.

That's the problem. That's why the outer islands are so upset.

“Jazz Music - Good For The Soul”

Since: Sep 07

Kailua, Oahu, HI

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Nov 1, 2007
 
Kapaa wrote:
<quoted text>Anybody with 5$ fare tickets BEWARE you will get your moneys worth.Warning! do not come on the first boat,or the 2and or3rd.You have been warned NOCOMEKAUAI!!!!
Brah, chill.

“Jazz Music - Good For The Soul”

Since: Sep 07

Kailua, Oahu, HI

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Nov 1, 2007
 
Sad day for Hawaii wrote:
We are now the laughing stock of the country. They are comparing us to a Banana Republic. You Oahu people think you're going to jump in your car and have easy, traffic-free driving when you get here, but you're mistaken, cuz we have twice the population, but the same tiny roads we had in 1970. Don't expect us to greet you with open arms either, because this has been shoved down our throats despite our best grassroots efforts to warn you of the environmental consequences that will affect you as well as the rest of the state.
Try getting the hate out of your heart and mind, eh? Your comments are NOT pono and, unfortunately, show ZERO Aloha.
Syd

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#20
Nov 1, 2007
 
Now Orinstien of Mesa may be gone and as predicted the interisland air fares will skyrocket.. Good thing we have an alternative. Once the Duopoly of Aloha and Hawaiian are back the only competiton will be the SF so now we need it even more!!
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Nov 1, 2007
 
Sad day for Hawaii wrote:
...we have twice the population, but the same tiny roads we had in 1970. Don't expect us to greet you with open arms either, because this has been shoved down our throats despite our best grassroots efforts to warn you of the environmental consequences that will affect you as well as the rest of the state.
These comments don't personally attack anyone; they simply state the truth.
kamaaina on 9th island

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#23
Nov 1, 2007
 
Convenient how those on other islands think they have right to prevent fellow citizens from visiting. So should people in small mainland towns just close the roads to keep out city folk on weekends? Greedy how those in paradise want to keep others out. I am SOOOOOO glad to see that the majority in this case defeated the greedy, whiny, hypocritical minority. Hawaii environmental groups just cut their donating base in a huge way for many years to come.

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