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One thing was missing from Barack Obama's acceptance speech in Denver, the word "Hawaii." Hawaii wasn't even mentioned in his 10-minute biography video. Full Story
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informed

Tucson, AZ

#106 Sep 3, 2008
Keith Haugen wrote:
Very interesting responses from those who don't dare to use their real names when writing their opinions. I must admit that I'm surprised.
When I first wrote letters to the editor that were anti-Bush (years ago), friends used to ask me "how do you dare to criticize Bush?" and "Aren't you afraid they'll 'get' you?"
Millions of innocent Americans have been put on Bush's "terrorist" and "no-fly" and dozens of other Bush lists, but I still dare to speak my mind. It's the American way. Don't let them frighten you into submission.
And soon those lists will be history, trashed by President Barack Obama and a patriotic team that puts our country first and Bush/Cheney/McSame/bin Laden, et al LAST.
Keith Haugen
Unafraid in Nu`uanu
Back it up with facts. Still living in AZ for the time being.
Thom1s

Honolulu, HI

#107 Sep 23, 2008
dargent77 wrote:
McSame's pick as VP, this former beauty queen, is joke!
It comes out her 17 year old daughter is 5 months "in the family way". Probably got knocked up at 16.
Where's the daddy? He sure signed up karmicly for a great adjunt to his life, or he'll become a raging alcoholic.
Didn't mommy teach Bristol about Nancy Reagan's abstenience, "Just Say No"? These Republican dolt's lead by McCain is so hypocritical, repleat with bald face lies, they will loose in Nov., and America will welcome a true visionary, thoughtful, intelligent president. With none of the baggage the othe two bring along for the ride.
If she is such a joke, why are the DEMS still in such panic, eh?
Thom1s

Honolulu, HI

#108 Sep 23, 2008
Yeah wrote:
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No. Clinton (and Bush) has the option to take anybody out. But there were legality issues that needed to be resolved. They weren't so no action was taken.
At the time, Bush jr should have been listening to his allies and his senior staff members. He did neither. The intel he presented to the UN and congress was what he wanted to present, not what he was given. That's why the UN backed away and the allied support was fairly meager, except for the UK.
War is never a necessary evil. But it is always an option and I would hope a final one. In another post, someone called Neville Chamberlain an "appeaser." All these years I also believed that. Then after doing a little research, it could very well be that he did that to buy time because he knew Britain wasn't ready to counter Germany. Is it true? I don't know. But it sure started me thinking about the options knowing I wasn't ready for battle.
My but we ARE smug, eh?

How do YOU know what intelligence President Bush was given?

Do YOU have a security clearance?

Have you EVER been read into ANY compartmented security program?

What's that, I can' t quite hear you.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#109 Sep 23, 2008
Thom1s wrote:
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My but we ARE smug, eh?
How do YOU know what intelligence President Bush was given?
Do YOU have a security clearance?
Have you EVER been read into ANY compartmented security program?
What's that, I can' t quite hear you.
Awww... So what do you have showing otherwise? A little more intelligent thinking and much less mouth on your part would help you go a long way.

"June 9, 2003

Institute for Science and International Security

Despite the Bush Administration's assertions, allies of the United States did not fully agree with the Administration's assessment on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction (WMD). Prior to the war in Iraq, some foreign countries questioned U.S. assertions on WMD presence in Iraq. Now, some in the U.S. Congress question whether or not the intelligence agencies manipulated intelligence to gain support for the war in Iraq. However, the White House insists that U.S. intelligence on Iraq's WMD were fairly presented. National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice said that the efforts of the Saddam Hussein regime to conceal its actions "clearly give a picture of a regime that had weapons of mass destruction and was determined to conceal them."1
The debate on Iraqi WMD continues. For example, Russia was not convinced by either the September 24, 2002 British dossier or the October 4, 2002 CIA report. Lacking sufficient evidence, Russia dismissed the claims as a part of a "propaganda furor."2 Specifically targeting the CIA report, Putin said, "Fears are one thing, hard facts are another." He goes on to say, "Russia does not have in its possession any trustworthy data that supports the existence of nuclear weapons or any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq and we have not received any such information from our partners yet. This fact has also been supported by the information sent by the CIA to the US Congress."3 However, Putin was apprehensive about the possibility that Iraq may have WMDs and he therefore supported inspections. The Russian ambassador to London thought that the dossier was a document of concern. "It is impressive, but not always…convincing."4

French intelligence services did not come up with the same alarming assessment of Iraq and WMD as did the Britain and the United States. "According to secret agents at the DGSE, Saddam's Iraq does not represent any kind of nuclear threat at this time…It [the French assessment] contradicts the CIA's analysis…"5 French spies said that the Iraqi nuclear threat claimed by the United States was a "phony threat."6

After Secretary of State Colin Powell's speech on February 5, 2003 to the United Nations Security Council, the focus of discussion among U.S. allies changed. France, Russia, and Germany did not find Powell's "evidence" strong enough to support the U.S.'s stance on the Iraqi threat. However, having already questioned the veracity of the dossier and CIA report, they instead concentrated on persuading the international community to continue UN inspections.

Other experts said that the evidence is not sufficient enough to prove that Iraq has WMDs. However, what Secretary of State Powell did prove was that Iraq was capable of producing WMDs."
HayninAk

Anchorage, AK

#110 Sep 23, 2008
Yeah wrote:
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Where did you get the 65% number?
As far as the housing crisis, it was done because it was not only greed, but because it was legal. Loans companies offered the loans because the could. Do you know how they work? And the ARMs' are not the cause. They've been around a long, long time.
And as far as the war goes, Bush really screwed the pooch. He got us in but can't get us out. And he'll be leaving his legacy that way as well. I have nothing but admiration for the fighting soldiers. But if they are re-enlisting by the hundreds, please let me know where you got that information. I've seen other posters say by the "thousands," only to clarify their statements.
And as far as Bin Laden and Clinton go, you need to double check your history.
History:

1996 - Clinton refused to sanction an Iraqi air strike because he was too busy watching golf - and missed an opportunity to kill Osama bin Laden
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#111 Sep 23, 2008
HayninAk wrote:
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History:
1996 - Clinton refused to sanction an Iraqi air strike because he was too busy watching golf - and missed an opportunity to kill Osama bin Laden
Please elaborate about the legality of the event and why we should have killed him then.

If it's a non-issue and we should have just killed him, just let me know that too.
HayninAk

Anchorage, AK

#112 Sep 23, 2008
Yeah wrote:
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Please elaborate about the legality of the event and why we should have killed him then.
If it's a non-issue and we should have just killed him, just let me know that too.
The golf event was legal, and no killing Clinton was not the correct solution.

On the other hand, killing someone that was involved in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, and is on the US Federal Bureau of Investigation's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list, such as Obama, sounds to me like it was a pretty good idea for someone that was responsible for the safety and welfare of our nation and its citizens.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#113 Sep 23, 2008
HayninAk wrote:
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The golf event was legal, and no killing Clinton was not the correct solution.
On the other hand, killing someone that was involved in the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, and is on the US Federal Bureau of Investigation's Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list, such as Obama, sounds to me like it was a pretty good idea for someone that was responsible for the safety and welfare of our nation and its citizens.
So why was it halted?
HayninAk

Anchorage, AK

#114 Sep 23, 2008
Yeah wrote:
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So why was it halted?
Why was what halted?
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#115 Sep 23, 2008
HayninAk wrote:
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Why was what halted?
I guess I missed it. Clinton refused to kill Bin Ladin because he was watching golf. Ok. It wasn't halted.

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu

#116 Sep 23, 2008
Clinton is the only president to have had a chance at Bin Laden.

Well, THAT'S news.

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