Letters

There are 111 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Sep 2, 2008, titled Letters. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

One thing was missing from Barack Obama's acceptance speech in Denver, the word "Hawaii." Hawaii wasn't even mentioned in his 10-minute biography video.

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Bullshot Crummond

Honolulu, HI

#86 Sep 2, 2008
Thom1s types with his lips. And the keys on his keyboard turn red from the lipstick.
Thom1s

Honolulu, HI

#87 Sep 2, 2008
Actually, for once, I agree with dargent77. I am an idiot.
Chuck

AOL

#88 Sep 2, 2008
Keone

You really have to quit reading all the media garbage and watching the liberal news stations.
Mc Cain, is not the McSame.
It has been told that he votes with Pres. Bush 95% of the time. Actually the true amount is less than 65%. He has called the Pres. as well as others to task. He has butt heads with both sides.
Yes, the past 8 years has been hard on all of us.
It is called war. But, we have been safe here.
The economy in this state has really been pretty darn good, considering what this country has gone through. Our unemployment rate has been extremely low for many years now.
Figures always are changed during an election year. It is called manipulation.

The housing scandal can only be blamed on greed, from several sides. People bought houses, they had absolutely no busines buying. Loan companies
offered loans without accepting resposiblity.
The emergence of the adjustible rate mortgage has been fatal at it's best.
There are many people to blame, but Pres. Bush
is not responsible for people's everyday choices.

And quit slamming the President about the war.
Our military is a 100% volunteer military and the fine young men and women serving must know something we don't, because they believe in their mission. They are re-enlisting by the hundreds.

It is our duty and only duty, to support each and every one of them. To do otherwise is unconscionble.
If Clinton had taken care of Bin Laden when he had the chance mulitple times, there wouldn't have been a 9-11 and we would be sitting different today. So go back to the beginning to see what has led us to where we are.
Kailua Resident

Honolulu, HI

#89 Sep 2, 2008
Thom1s wrote:
<quoted text>
Folks, this world class hypocrite typifies those who told us over and over and over again "It's ONLY about sex" by way of defending an impeached Cry Baby Boomer president. And NOW they would have us believe their high horse denunciation of this teenager?
Truth be told it's beginning to look like the Dems did not learn their 1972 lesson after all. Obama looks more and more like the new McGovern, an extremist the general electorate is finding difficult to accept. Wouldn't surprise me to see McCain/Palin sweep 49 states just like Nixon did in 1972.
And of course here in Hawaii, that would be particularly delicisious since the geniuses in our Democrat saturated state legislature recently decided to nullify the Constitutional provision for decision by the College of Electors, passing a measure that would REQUIRE all four of our state's electoral vote to go to the person who prevails on the mainland. Imagine the rending of garments and gnashing of furious teeth when Hawaii is COMPELLED to cast its electoral votes for McCain.
HOO
WAH !!
You display some more of your legendary ignorance here. the bill has a 'switch' in it - and it only becomes effective when a particialur number of states adopts similar laws. Thats not even close to happening.
Of coruse, Obama is going to win the popular vote and the majority of the electoral college anyways. McCAins VP almost guanrenttes Obama will win Southern states with high population of blacks, liks alabama, arkansas, etc.
Thank god McCain couldnt get COlin Powell.....
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#90 Sep 2, 2008
Chuck wrote:
Keone
You really have to quit reading all the media garbage and watching the liberal news stations.
Mc Cain, is not the McSame.
It has been told that he votes with Pres. Bush 95% of the time. Actually the true amount is less than 65%. He has called the Pres. as well as others to task. He has butt heads with both sides.
Yes, the past 8 years has been **** all of us.
It is called war. But, we have been safe here.
The economy in this state has really been pretty darn good, considering what this country has gone through. Our unemployment rate has been extremely low for many years now.
Figures always are changed during an election year. It is called manipulation.
The housing scandal can only be blamed on greed, from several sides. People bought houses, they had absolutely no busines buying. Loan companies
offered loans without accepting resposiblity.
The emergence of the adjustible rate mortgage has been fatal at it's best.
There are many people to blame, but Pres. Bush
is not responsible for people's everyday choices.
And quit slamming the President about the war.
Our military is a 100% volunteer military and the fine young men and women serving must know something we don't, because they believe in their mission. They are re-enlisting by the hundreds.
It is our duty and only duty, to support each and every one of them. To do otherwise is unconscionble.
If Clinton had taken care of Bin Laden when he had the chance mulitple times, there wouldn't have been a 9-11 and we would be sitting different today. So go back to the beginning to see what has led us to where we are.
Where did you get the 65% number?

As far as the housing crisis, it was done because it was not only greed, but because it was legal. Loans companies offered the loans because the could. Do you know how they work? And the ARMs' are not the cause. They've been around a long, long time.

And as far as the war goes, Bush really screwed the pooch. He got us in but can't get us out. And he'll be leaving his legacy that way as well. I have nothing but admiration for the fighting soldiers. But if they are re-enlisting by the hundreds, please let me know where you got that information. I've seen other posters say by the "thousands," only to clarify their statements.

And as far as Bin Laden and Clinton go, you need to double check your history.
informed

Pomerene, AZ

#91 Sep 2, 2008
Watched MSNBC (I really do not know what came over me to watch them!) and my, my the bias is in FULL swing. I saw them cover the DNC and they were just full of love and joy and gushing over the speeches, the people, and the convention...contrast that to tonight. If you Libs think there is NO bias, you live in your own world. I liked the smackdown given by Newt to the anchor on the ground right after the speeches. Priceless!!
informed

Pomerene, AZ

#92 Sep 2, 2008
Yeah, I believe it was on the fourth of July that over a thousand soldiers reenlisted in Baghdad. I want to say it was in the Army Times and you probably do not know of it because the media only likes bad news.

DO you listen to Neil Boortz (a Libertarian)(sorry about the spelling), but he broke it down by getting the actual voting record and comparing the actual party line votes with the votes that were unanimous amongst both parties and it was around 44% vote along party lines (to mean in line with Bush as we all know he does not actually vote).(It was a total of 30 of the most recent important votes-not recognition for sports or other votes of that nature-that were highly contentious votes.) If you check out his site he may have the info on there. The broadcast was 2 days ago.
informed

Pomerene, AZ

#93 Sep 2, 2008
Okay, my bad, you can find it at www.army.mil/news or you can check it out on youtube.(called Reenlistment ceremony in baghdad)

Here's a prtion of the article:

Friday July 4, 2008

"Servicemembers from all over Iraq gathered in the Al Faw Palace rotunda at Camp Victory, Baghdad, to reenlist and celebrate Independence Day in what is the largest reenlistment ceremony in the history of the American military.Beneath a large American flag which dwarfed even the enormous chandelier that Saddam Hussein had built for the Al Faw Palace, 1,215 members of all military branches - representing all 50 states for a combined 5,500 years of additional service - took the oath administered by General David Petraeus, Commander of Multi-National Forces Iraq.

"Petraeus presided over the ceremony and led the Airmen, Marines, Sailors, and Soldiers in their oath to defend their country against all enemies both foreign and domestic on this day of celebration of America winning its independence. At least two husband-and-wife couples were among those signing up for another military stint. After taking their oath and before the immense American flag , the troops saluted Petraeus, then sang “God Bless America.”"

“You and your comrades here have been described as America’s new greatest generation, and, in my view, you have more than earned that description,” Petraeus said.“It is the greatest of honors to soldier here with you.”

"The Al Faw palace, Camp Victory is the headquarters of the U.S. military in Iraq."
informed

Pomerene, AZ

#94 Sep 2, 2008
"And as far as Bin Laden and Clinton go, you need to double check your history."

Yeah, are you denying that Clinton had the option to take Bin Laden out? Have you read Dereliction of Duty? It is a good read and an eye opener into many things the public was not aware of.

To say Bush misahndled the war is pretty accurate, but what would you suppose he do at the time?(Given that hindsight is 20/20 and without the intel snafu because it is a moot point) I think he should of went in hard and all out. War is NEVER "nice" and "easy" or likable, but it IS a neccessary evil.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#95 Sep 2, 2008
informed wrote:
Yeah, I believe it was on the fourth of July that over a thousand soldiers reenlisted in Baghdad. I want to say it was in the Army Times and you probably do not know of it because the media only likes bad news.
DO you listen to Neil Boortz (a Libertarian)(sorry about the spelling), but he broke it down by getting the actual voting record and comparing the actual party line votes with the votes that were unanimous amongst both parties and it was around 44% vote along party lines (to mean in line with Bush as we all know he does not actually vote).(It was a total of 30 of the most recent important votes-not recognition for sports or other votes of that nature-that were highly contentious votes.) If you check out his site he may have the info on there. The broadcast was 2 days ago.
Thanks This article is what I was finally able to squeeze out of the original poster. It was the largest SINGLE re-enlistment. The blogger had indicated the re-enlistments were happening by the thousands and I just couldn't see how I missed it.

As for the voting record, I'd like to see what the original poster has to say. I admire your depth of detail, though.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#96 Sep 2, 2008
informed wrote:
"And as far as Bin Laden and Clinton go, you need to double check your history."
Yeah, are you denying that Clinton had the option to take Bin Laden out? Have you read Dereliction of Duty? It is a good read and an eye opener into many things the public was not aware of.
To say Bush misahndled the war is pretty accurate, but what would you suppose he do at the time?(Given that hindsight is 20/20 and without the intel snafu because it is a moot point) I think he should of went in hard and all out. War is NEVER "nice" and "easy" or likable, but it IS a neccessary evil.
No. Clinton (and Bush) has the option to take anybody out. But there were legality issues that needed to be resolved. They weren't so no action was taken.

At the time, Bush jr should have been listening to his allies and his senior staff members. He did neither. The intel he presented to the UN and congress was what he wanted to present, not what he was given. That's why the UN backed away and the allied support was fairly meager, except for the UK.

War is never a necessary evil. But it is always an option and I would hope a final one. In another post, someone called Neville Chamberlain an "appeaser." All these years I also believed that. Then after doing a little research, it could very well be that he did that to buy time because he knew Britain wasn't ready to counter Germany. Is it true? I don't know. But it sure started me thinking about the options knowing I wasn't ready for battle.

Since: Mar 08

Bangkok, Thailand

#97 Sep 3, 2008
Keith Haugen wrote:
Aloha:
If you are not ashamed of your position or what you have to say, I think all Star-Bulletin readers who post messages on these boards should sign their name (REAL name) and tell us where they are from.
In fact, the Star-Bulletin should require it, just as they do for letters to the editor that are published in the print version of the paper.
When I worked at the S-B, we didn't even read letters that were not signed. They properly were tossed into the round file.
I have decided not to read the unsigned letters, and to never respond to the attack letters written by those who don't tell us who they are.
Keith Haugen
Nu`uanu
Former Star-Bulletin writer/editor
An alternative would be for the Star-Bulletin to require all posters to be memebers of the Topix community, such as myself and others. That ensures the validity of their eMail addresses and IP locations and has one user name assigned.
BO and BC

Honolulu, HI

#98 Sep 3, 2008
Bullshot Crummond wrote:
I'm ashamed of Kelly O'Brien. Not once did she mention Ireland.
Eh, Bullshot Crummond, you got one last chance.

McCain is Irish.

Jump on the team and come in for the big win, why don't you?

Fight the Power.

Join the Revolution.

Overthrow the Democratic Party of Hawaii.
Suppression Rules

Honolulu, HI

#99 Sep 3, 2008
Paoa wrote:
<quoted text>
An alternative would be for the Star-Bulletin to require all posters to be memebers of the Topix community, such as myself and others. That ensures the validity of their eMail addresses and IP locations and has one user name assigned.
That is a great idea, if you want to restrict free expression and intimidate or track people that express free thoughts for later retaliation by the corrupt Democratic Party of Hawaii.
informed

Pomerene, AZ

#100 Sep 3, 2008
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks This article is what I was finally able to squeeze out of the original poster. It was the largest SINGLE re-enlistment. The blogger had indicated the re-enlistments were happening by the thousands and I just couldn't see how I missed it.
As for the voting record, I'd like to see what the original poster has to say. I admire your depth of detail, though.
Only pertaining to the reenlistments, they happen all the time in Baghdad and the military likes to do it in groups (for obvious reasons over there...mainly ease, not publicity before someone else reads into what I am trying to say). It is more like in the hundreds on a "routine" basis.(by routine, see above explanation) I could give you more stats as my husband, unfortunately, is presently a recruiter. When reenlistments happen here at home, it is BY FAR on a very samll scale. I can only speak form my experience with the Army, but it is almost always done at company or squad level (at least in my husband's cases). Some naysayers would be amazed at the numbers of everyday people wanting to join and defend this country. You still have those who come in and want to get the benefits without the sacrifice, but what job doesn't have those kinds who want everything yet give nothing.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#101 Sep 3, 2008
informed wrote:
<quoted text>
Only pertaining to the reenlistments, they happen all the time in Baghdad and the military likes to do it in groups (for obvious reasons over there...mainly ease, not publicity before someone else reads into what I am trying to say). It is more like in the hundreds on a "routine" basis.(by routine, see above explanation) I could give you more stats as my husband, unfortunately, is presently a recruiter. When reenlistments happen here at home, it is BY FAR on a very samll scale. I can only speak form my experience with the Army, but it is almost always done at company or squad level (at least in my husband's cases). Some naysayers would be amazed at the numbers of everyday people wanting to join and defend this country. You still have those who come in and want to get the benefits without the sacrifice, but what job doesn't have those kinds who want everything yet give nothing.
Now that's interesting. Nothing like first hand accounts to clear the picture up.

I'm sure recruitment and re-enlistments happen all the time. I just have a problem when the "claim" is it happens by the thousands. Even without a war, that number seems way out there.

But thanks again.

Since: Sep 08

Honolulu

#102 Sep 3, 2008
BO and BC wrote:
<quoted text>
Eh, Bullshot Crummond, you got one last chance.
McCain is Irish.
Jump on the team and come in for the big win, why don't you?
Fight the Power.
Join the Revolution.
Overthrow the Democratic Party of Hawaii.
Sounds good. I'll do that right after I overthrow the Republican Party of the U.S.
informed

Pomerene, AZ

#103 Sep 3, 2008
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>
Now that's interesting. Nothing like first hand accounts to clear the picture up.
I'm sure recruitment and re-enlistments happen all the time. I just have a problem when the "claim" is it happens by the thousands. Even without a war, that number seems way out there.
But thanks again.
Exactly! Claims get thrown out there all the time and people start to actually believe them. It is refreshing to know that there are others who actually take the time and effort to look stuff up.(Regardless of how tedious it is sometimes!!)
Keith Haugen

Kapaa, HI

#104 Sep 3, 2008
Very interesting responses from those who don't dare to use their real names when writing their opinions. I must admit that I'm surprised.

When I first wrote letters to the editor that were anti-Bush (years ago), friends used to ask me "how do you dare to criticize Bush?" and "Aren't you afraid they'll 'get' you?"

Millions of innocent Americans have been put on Bush's "terrorist" and "no-fly" and dozens of other Bush lists, but I still dare to speak my mind. It's the American way. Don't let them frighten you into submission.

And soon those lists will be history, trashed by President Barack Obama and a patriotic team that puts our country first and Bush/Cheney/McSame/bin Laden, et al LAST.

Keith Haugen
Unafraid in Nu`uanu
thecommongood

Honolulu, HI

#105 Sep 3, 2008
Keith Haugen wrote:
Very interesting responses from those who don't dare to use their real names when writing their opinions. I must admit that I'm surprised.
When I first wrote letters to the editor that were anti-Bush (years ago), friends used to ask me "how do you dare to criticize Bush?" and "Aren't you afraid they'll 'get' you?"
Millions of innocent Americans have been put on Bush's "terrorist" and "no-fly" and dozens of other Bush lists, but I still dare to speak my mind. It's the American way. Don't let them frighten you into submission.
And soon those lists will be history, trashed by President Barack Obama and a patriotic team that puts our country first and Bush/Cheney/McSame/bin Laden, et al LAST.
Keith Haugen
Unafraid in Nu`uanu
you're silly.

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