House gives final OK to Hawaii Superferry bill

Comment on this story Hawaii Superferry's Alakai, seen here with its vehicle-loading barge in the foreground, is tied up in Honolulu Harbor, awaiting a return to interisland service. Full Story
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People for HSF

Kaunakakai, HI

#1 Nov 1, 2007
To those Representatives who voted no to the Superferry, the HSF is not only one business. Their interest is not only in for themselves. They are in the transportation business, for the people, by the people and with the people of Hawaii...like the trucking, car rental, barges, airlines, cruise lines, Matson lines, FedEx businesses, etc, etc. I am troubled...who do you represent? Aren't you supposed to be representing majority of the people who voted you in? As you well know, majority of the people of Hawaii nei, as well as businesses, do want and are for the HSF!
DeaadHorseBeater

Haiku, HI

#2 Nov 1, 2007
They represent the enviroment where we live. If you dont like it leave.
djm

United States

#3 Nov 1, 2007
Why didn't the legilature also pass a bill to increase the BAC to 0.25 for all actors working on active project in Hawaii to facilitate filming in the State! Not having actors going to jail on dui charges woul clearly help keep filming on schedule.
kane

Koloa, HI

#4 Nov 1, 2007
Absolute abuse of Powers. I am ashamed that we put sell out type people in office. Then again, all politicians sell out for a price. Lingle sold Maui bigtime. Now here goes the rest of the state. Maybe we should add a provision in the bill. Super ferry for Lingle. if the Super ferry is to stay, then Lingle must resign. At least, if we will allow our Environment to be compromised, then we should remove the person who allowed this to happen, so there is no more destruction. She even wants to close down Kokee and charge a toll fee to go there. Then slap a Hotel up there. That is what you call, no respect for our 'Aina, period. The plain fact is, Lingle will allow devolopement without looking down the road. Just think this.... With all the development, where is all the shit going from the people? Already we have contaminated shorelines with staff, sewer spills, and bacterial diseases. All of this is because of overpopulation on an Island. You guys figure it out. Oahu has little resources and plenty pilau beaches. We definitely need that on the smaller Islands. Then for sure our tourists will search somewhere else for cleaner beaches to vacation at. Mahalo and Aloha.
samiam

Kaneohe, HI

#5 Nov 1, 2007
The ferry has been falsely framed! Once again our people have been divided by powerbrokers for economic purposes. When the media and the project applicants and the governor get together to frame the conversation as "to sail or not to sail" they fragment our people to their own advantage and subvert the principles of sustainability and while discarding an opportunity to model sustainable decision-making.

What if instead our decision-makers had asked the following questions: Should a project review be completed while the project is being executed given the severe environmental effects as testified by experts and scientists? Should we observe a precautionary principle when we are dealing with circumstances such as these? Should this applicant be given carte-blanche to business as usual activities, as all carriers are already operating under, when we know that those activities contribute to global warming, spread of invasive insects and plants and contribute to ill will between our people? Should we exempt an applicant who has deliberately chosen to skirt the rule of law from those very laws?

I submit, this is not a jobs vs. the environment issue! We can have jobs and the environment, if and only if we observe a right minded review process and think through our actions while using the principle of sustainable decision-making. So far, it is my witness that our governor, our business-class and the legislature have not observed one iota of sustainable decision-making. In fact, they seem to be flaunting their power and influence.

These are questions i would like to see us consider during this process. Sustainability is the future.
Kauai Ohana

Honolulu, HI

#7 Nov 1, 2007
This is a sad day for Hawaii. The Supreme Court undermined, 30 years of environmental law thrown out the window and Neighbor Island legitimate concerns ignored and ridiculed. It is not about being against the Superferry it is about right process and respect for community and the aina.
The Bonedaddy-maui

Kilauea, HI

#8 Nov 1, 2007
Hi Ho Hi Ho its off to court we go. The injuction still has not been lifted and the judge might see that this circumventing of the law for one corporation is unconstiutional. Notice that the HSF did not appeal the circuit court decision as they would have lost that case in the court of appeals because the evidence was overwhelming against them. It will go to the supreme court so hang on. We are a nation of laws and the bungling politicians and HSF were offered a bill to conduct an EIS while operating by Senator English from Maui over two years ago and they refused. Could of had a SF with some restrictions and the horrendous traffic situation here at the newly named H4 on ramp might have had a better solution than a can of paint and a lane restripping. To our friend People for the SF you still have Puff the Magic Dragon to ride around in there in Hanalei. Everyone who thinks that the majority is always entitled to what they want should be reminded of the civil rights legislation that overturned the southern democrates bigotry. The HSF is so out of wack with the universe that it is doomed to fail until all is pono.
kauai girl

Lihue, HI

#9 Nov 1, 2007
I could not have said it better than what you have expressed here! So tired of all this over development, over population, too much traffic, blah, blah, blah....

I am saddened. Our government sucks...but you know it's all about the money. They won't be happy until all the neighbor islands are like Oahu. Then, can we really call this Hawaii, can we really say "Come and enjoy Paradise"? The sound of money rolling in I guess sounds better than the surf rolling in...but then again...we may not hear anything when the coqui frogs get here!

I have seen Kauai change so much, so fast. How can we keep up? I don't hear anyone talking about beefing up DLNR, Police Department, Emergency Shelters, Life Guards, Fire Department, etc. More people come, more services are required. Don't forget the most precious resource..."Water". There is only so much water to sustain us. Our government has always been of the "cart before the horse" mentality.

I hope Kauai gets more money from the State now to fix all of our pot holes. With 300+ vehicles possibly arriving everyday, hey, maybe this isn't so bad after all...we'll finally get enough money to get our roads fix!! YES!

We reap what we sow.
kane wrote:
Absolute abuse of Powers. I am ashamed that we put sell out type people in office. Then again, all politicians sell out for a price. Lingle sold Maui bigtime. Now here goes the rest of the state. Maybe we should add a provision in the bill. Super ferry for Lingle. if the Super ferry is to stay, then Lingle must resign. At least, if we will allow our Environment to be compromised, then we should remove the person who allowed this to happen, so there is no more destruction. She even wants to close down Kokee and charge a toll fee to go there. Then slap a Hotel up there. That is what you call, no respect for our 'Aina, period. The plain fact is, Lingle will allow devolopement without looking down the road. Just think this.... With all the development, where is all the shit going from the people? Already we have contaminated shorelines with staff, sewer spills, and bacterial diseases. All of this is because of overpopulation on an Island. You guys figure it out. Oahu has little resources and plenty pilau beaches. We definitely need that on the smaller Islands. Then for sure our tourists will search somewhere else for cleaner beaches to vacation at. Mahalo and Aloha.
Doraemon

Honolulu, HI

#10 Nov 1, 2007
djm wrote:
Why didn't the legilature also pass a bill to increase the BAC to 0.25 for all actors working on active project in Hawaii to facilitate filming in the State! Not having actors going to jail on dui charges woul clearly help keep filming on schedule.
Sorry Hawaii is part of the USA, to qualify for and obtain funding for certain Highways Federal standards have to be met.

Its simple don't want a DUI don't drink.
kauai girl

Lihue, HI

#11 Nov 1, 2007
Oh, I forgot one more thing....

Hey, Governor...go! airlines needs some help, can you bail them out too please!
endofall

Turkey

#12 Nov 1, 2007
The end of the aina will begin in 2 weeks..
djm

United States

#13 Nov 1, 2007
Doraemon, please look up the definition of sacasm.
Kainalu

Honolulu, HI

#14 Nov 1, 2007
kauai girl wrote:
I could not have said it better than what you have expressed here! So tired of all this over development, over population, too much traffic, blah, blah, blah....
I am saddened. Our government sucks...but you know it's all about the money. They won't be happy until all the neighbor islands are like Oahu. Then, can we really call this Hawaii, can we really say "Come and enjoy Paradise"? The sound of money rolling in I guess sounds better than the surf rolling in...but then again...we may not hear anything when the coqui frogs get here!
I have seen Kauai change so much, so fast. How can we keep up? I don't hear anyone talking about beefing up DLNR, Police Department, Emergency Shelters, Life Guards, Fire Department, etc. More people come, more services are required. Don't forget the most precious resource..."Water". There is only so much water to sustain us. Our government has always been of the "cart before the horse" mentality.
I hope Kauai gets more money from the State now to fix all of our pot holes. With 300+ vehicles possibly arriving everyday, hey, maybe this isn't so bad after all...we'll finally get enough money to get our roads fix!! YES!
We reap what we sow.
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Well, it will probably be more like 180 vehicles...and most roads on Kauau, like Oahu, are not State roads but county roads paid for by county surcharges on fuel and other county taxes....Look at Oahu's roads, many are pothole ridden and are not scheduled for repaving by the City for many years.
The Bonedaddy-maui

Kilauea, HI

#15 Nov 1, 2007
djm wrote:
Doraemon, please look up the definition of sacasm.
Mark Twain said it was the wit of fools.
Let it sail

Honolulu, HI

#16 Nov 1, 2007
Haa haa haaa. the Majority has spoken! Thank goodness we live in the USA!!!
The Bonedaddy-maui

Kilauea, HI

#17 Nov 1, 2007
added to that Einstein said that a foolish belief in authority is the enemy of the truth.
kauai girl

Lihue, HI

#18 Nov 1, 2007
Kainalu wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, it will probably be more like 180 vehicles...and most roads on Kauau, like Oahu, are not State roads but county roads paid for by county surcharges on fuel and other county taxes....Look at Oahu's roads, many are pothole ridden and are not scheduled for repaving by the City for many years.
Yes many roads are County but many are State --- 180 - 300+ cars....whatever it is, it's still more vehicles. And what you said about Oahu's roads....my point exactly....so many cars on your roads, the state/county cannot keep up....what makes you think we'll be able to do the same here.

We pay state taxes on fuel too, so yes we do get State money to fix our roads. We pay state taxes on many things, but don't see a lot of that money. Most of that money is spent for projects on Oahu.
Why? Because your island is overburdened...which is where we are headed too!
Jayson Wilson

Honolulu, HI

#19 Nov 1, 2007
I'm so glad that legislation finally stuck it to those damn tree hugging whale loving hippies. Whales are not stupid. They will know to get out of the way. Of all the boats we have travelling from island to island, they chose this boat to protest. If it wasn't this it would be something else. The hippies here have to have something to complain about, because God forbid they actually get off their butts and get a job. I personally will not be using the ferry because I think it is too pricey, and it is cheaper to fly (as long as Go! stay s around). But I am not against it at all.
The Bonedaddy-maui

Kilauea, HI

#20 Nov 1, 2007
Let it sail wrote:
Haa haa haaa. the Majority has spoken! Thank goodness we live in the USA!!!
Ignorance: destitute of knowledge or education or lacking awareness. Ignorance of the law is well...no excuse. The majority...of what?
Imua

Albany, NY

#21 Nov 1, 2007
Opponents to the SF are still saying, "its not about being against the SF, its about the process". Well, this is a democractic country - with that said, Majority Wins. On top of that, the Judicial Branch was not undermined. Did you all not attend your Civics Class? or sleep through it? The courts only INTERPRET the laws. The legislative branch MAKES the laws. If a law is flawed (as in the case of the SF), it must be fixed. Did you Anti SF people think about the "what if" scenerio that had the SF be held to do an EA/EIS prior to operating, that a group of people then make a court case of YB, Matson, Verizon, etc.- halting services - to also do an EA/EIS (regardless of the "grandfather clause")? Think about it, no toilet paper, rice, spam, etc.

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