For Lake Elmo, pressure to add popula...

For Lake Elmo, pressure to add population is off

There are 83 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Apr 10, 2011, titled For Lake Elmo, pressure to add population is off. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Lake Elmo's court-ordered plans to grow have been postponed - again. The Metropolitan Council is not enforcing an order to make the city one of the fastest-growing municipalities in the state.

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mike

Winona, MN

#1 Apr 10, 2011
Let us not forget that the metropolitan councils original mandate in the 1970's was to act as an adviser AND NOT as a dictator. If you want to find a potent case of modern Feudal Fiefdoms, you could not pick a finer choice than the current over reach by this unelected bureaucratic hegemony masquerading as a "guiding" entity. If you truly want to break the cycle of government tyranny, do away with the Met Council. Republican's in the legislature, are you listening?

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Since: Apr 08

Wisconsin Rapids, WI

#4 Apr 11, 2011
I think it just reinforces my view that MN is nothing more than a socialist/communist state. Central planning has never worked and never will.

The Met council needs to go.

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BabyRayRay

AOL

#5 Apr 11, 2011
Isnt it amazing (and communist) how an appointed council like the Met Council can dictate to an elected council like the Lake Elmo City Council?
What Elmo NEEDS

United States

#6 Apr 11, 2011
MORE Section 8 HOUSING!!!!!!!!!!
Pete Wendell

River Falls, WI

#7 Apr 11, 2011
Lake Elmo's court-ordered plans to grow have been postponed — again.
Being FORCED to grow by an unelected body? I can't believe any judge sided with the Met Council in the first place.

So much for freedom.
Jimbo

Minneapolis, MN

#8 Apr 11, 2011
The court needs to mind their own business and stay out of things they know nothing about.
Jimbo

Minneapolis, MN

#9 Apr 11, 2011
mike wrote:
Let us not forget that the metropolitan councils original mandate in the 1970's was to act as an adviser AND NOT as a dictator. If you want to find a potent case of modern Feudal Fiefdoms, you could not pick a finer choice than the current over reach by this unelected bureaucratic hegemony masquerading as a "guiding" entity. If you truly want to break the cycle of government tyranny, do away with the Met Council. Republican's in the legislature, are you listening?
Yes, but Liberal communists donot know how to just advise. They are a controlling group that wants to tell everybody else how to live, but they do not follow their own rules well.
ClearChoice

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Apr 11, 2011
Lake Elmo, don't you see what a blessing it is that you haven't grown when the Met Council said "grow?" The Met Council needs to be abolished. Please, legislators, now is your chance. Who are they to tell a local community what to do?
No Surprises

De Witt, IA

#11 Apr 11, 2011
FYI. The Court did NOT order LE to grow as the article states. It simply said that METC was given the debatable authority by the Legislature back in the 1970's (Metropolitan Land Use Planning Act)to control local land use plans. That decision was morphed into the "waste water inefficiency fee" by METC staff later in resposne to the embarassment of being challenged by a city that refused to march to the METC drummmer. What the legislature created in the 1970's can easily be repealed in 2011. It woulld take a few well chosen words of legislation. Simple. DO IT!
Dale Peterson

United States

#12 Apr 11, 2011
Why doesn't the city build its own sewer plant and system?
No Surprises

De Witt, IA

#13 Apr 11, 2011
Dale Peterson wrote:
Why doesn't the city build its own sewer plant and system?
Which, is exactly what Lake Elmo advocated by its plan that was rejected by METC. Oh, and the article implies that the METC/LE issue was that of "NO growth". Not true. The LE plan rejected by METC - leading to the Court case (in which LE invested $400K) called for doubling of Lake Elmo's population over time. Not good enough for METC. METC's plan for Lake Elmo (and it was/is METC's plan) calls for tripling the size of Lake Elmo (8K to 24K) using METC sewer, with the financial "hammer" of the "waste water inefficiency fee") to penalize Lake Elmo for non-compliance. Not certain, but I think Lake Elmo is the first and only community subject to that ridiculous WWIF abomination, that is little more than "get even" for the city's audacity in challenging the authority of METC. Nice folks there at METC!
bob

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Apr 11, 2011
We are talking about way too much Government intervention. Disband the Met Council NOW.

The Met Council had ordered Lake Elmo to grow by 17,000 residents by 2030 and issued a year-by-year schedule, starting with 515 new sewer connections by 2010.
smartie

Saint Paul, MN

#15 Apr 11, 2011
How can any suburb grow in these times? Who can afford a new home, let alone an old one?
Igor

Chicago, IL

#16 Apr 11, 2011
Comrades,

You must trust the ever wise and most generous politburo of the Met Council. They will make your lives better...no?
Met Council

Saint Paul, MN

#17 Apr 11, 2011
You vill do vhat ve vant und you vill like it!
No Surprises

De Witt, IA

#18 Apr 11, 2011
FYI, again. For those of you that care (including legislators, I hope), following is the single sentence of State Statutes (MSA 473.175, Subd. 1)that METC and the Court(s) used to "hook" Lake Elmo, and other Metro local governments:

"The council may require a local governmental unit to modify any comprehensive plan or part thereof if, upon the adoption of findings and a resolution, the council concludes that the plan is more likely than not to have a substantial impact on or contain a substantial departure from metropolitan system plans."

Talk about "open season" on local government! Easy enough to change, I'd say.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#19 Apr 11, 2011
My GF lives in a town that abuts Lake Elmo. They didn't join in with the Met Coincil so they would have autonomy over their own town.

You can dip into that nice pool of money the Met has, but the membership dues are a real B.
bmd60

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Apr 11, 2011
Just further proof that you can't fix stupid.
DizzyOne

Buford, GA

#21 Apr 11, 2011
Central planning just like the former USSR. The Central Committee, read Metropolitan Council has the ultimate authority no matter what the citizens want. After all "Big Brother" knows what's best for everyone.
You notice it's the FORMER USSR, and a large part of it's being former is because of central planning.
small town guy

Prineville, OR

#22 Apr 11, 2011
Boy , talk about being bullied by the big kids!!

Time to move to America

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