Pl Damron unfair wages

[in the know]

they pay under min.wage. I will call the dept of labor.

[Tequila Mockingbird]

Damaron's are great folks and do a lot for the community. I don't know about their wages but There are different wage scales for some food serving jobs. Might be gripe with no basis.

[Answer]

Kowing someone that works there personally, they do pay fair wages because all the tips go to charity. What other resturant does something like that. Kodos to them! Anyways, I love their food.

[no no]

But, who gets credit for the write off on taxes?
Do they take it? And did all employees agree to this? If the answers are, yes--yes and no.
Then time to file complaint. Then move on to a new job.

[Answer]

Employees knew up front that they were not getting the tip money. So you cannot file a complaint, but yes you can move on. I am sure that the percentage of people who need work will be glad to take your place. Anyways, it is not that big of a deal and not that much money was passed along to local charities, so deal with it or get out.

[lol]

If food servers are not getting paid minimum wages and don't get tips, then they have a credible complaint. Servers get paid less because they get tips.

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[QUOTE who="Answer" it is not that big of a deal and not that much money was passed along to local charities, so deal with it or get out.[/QUOTE]Well, sorry but it is a big deal if you live off that money. And the question still remains? Are they taking it for a tax deduction, if so thats illegal.
By the way, if you think all food servers are low lifes. Then stay home and cook your own damn food. Then you don't have to put up with their way of dealing with the public! Yes some servers are bad. But just don't go back.
I am not a food server but I respect every person in this world for the job they do no matter what they do for a living.
As long as they work and try to better them selfs.
People wonder why people stay on welfare, this is part of the reason.

[Answer]

OK here we go.... I don't' know where you got that someone on here said food servers are low lifes. I see that no where on here besides you saying it. So you are the one starting crap.

The point is: We have a food service here in Kewanee that hires people and tells them UP FRONT that any tip money made goes to charity, that person has a choice (a choice mind you) to work and have any tip money made go to local charities, otherwise find another job that is feasible for them to make an earning for their life style. They do make minimum wage or above because of the tip money going to a great cause. What a wonderful world we live in. Also, you keep complaining about who gets the credit or tax write off. Well I highly doubt that a server at PL Damron is going to itemize their tax returns to get that....what maybe 150 dollars write off for donations. They would be smart to just take the standard deductions which is $5,950 for single person, probably more than what they make in tips or wages. Get over it, it is for a good cause, don't you want to help your community....I am taking it....guess not....

[Answer]

For the person who is still bickering about tips going to good causes. See below:

OUR MISSION AT PL DAMRON'S CAFE
A portion of our cafe sales goes to help one of the following in our community,
Food Pantry, Salvation Army & Angel Tree, Senior Citizens Center,
Relay for Life, Local Mission Projects, Good Samaritan Fund.

TOTAL DONATIONS GIVIN
2008-2010 $6989.26
2011 $3,239.16

Wonder thing they are doing for your local community. Keep it folks, wish more businesses would do this as well.

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Answer wrote:

OK here we go.... I don't' know where you got that someone on here said food servers are low lifes. I see that no where on here besides you saying it. So you are the one starting crap.
The point is: We have a food service here in Kewanee that hires people and tells them UP FRONT that any tip money made goes to charity, that person has a choice (a choice mind you) to work and have any tip money made go to local charities, otherwise find another job that is feasible for them to make an earning for their life style. They do make minimum wage or above because of the tip money going to a great cause. What a wonderful world we live in. Also, you keep complaining about who gets the credit or tax write off. Well I highly doubt that a server at PL Damron is going to itemize their tax returns to get that....what maybe 150 dollars write off for donations. They would be smart to just take the standard deductions which is $5,950 for single person, probably more than what they make in tips or wages. Get over it, it is for a good cause, don't you want to help your community....I am taking it....guess not....

Well sorry if you can't read very well. But you better go read post # 8. Then come back and say your sorry.
Question is, who is taking the tax deduction for the charity don. if it's damerons. Then it's wrong. Plain and simple because they are not the ones giving the money. The group is giving it. If they are taking the tax credit for it thats illegal, and you better go check it out. Not saying each and everyone should try to claim it but if damerons are, thats illegal. If you weren't a friend of the family or part of the family. You might be able to get over it.
No, I don't mind helping a good cause. But whos cause are we helping here? Their taxes....money in their pocket....or money to the charity?

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Old Fart wrote:

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You are an ignorant crybaby. First off take your law degree and your tax certification and pound sand. You don't know Chit from Shynola. The other posters are correct. If the employer set the agreement as part of the employment then the charitable expense can be claimed by the business. Hell the tiny percentage the business saves is the least they desire for their efforts. Get off your high horse and start your own business and then employ a few folks while meeting all the other expenses and competing for the few dollars that get spent in this town every night. Your a loser and should be ashamed of your self for all the crap your complaining about. If you are one of the employee you should be ashamed of your petty ranting. I'd your not than its none of your dam business.

Know the facts before you post. I do have a small business and the law is the law. I take no sides in this, but state the law. As I said, move on earlier. As far as being a loser. I will match you dollar for dollar, any day. To see what your net worth is! By the way this is topix, anyone can and will post his or her opinion. Thats what you did.

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Old Fart wrote:

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You have a small business! Right so small we can't see it. Another self made B. S. artist. Step up and play your dollar for dollar card you put it on front street now let's have it. Bet you ain't got squat. Especially after the wining crap about some little tips. Go ahead play your big hand. Dollar for dollar. You put it out there lets have a bet that means something. I will even let you pick it.

I really don't have to prove my net worth to you. Because your such a loser, that you want to bring everyone down to your level.
But I will, can you add I hope so.
I have 3700 acres of farm ground....Value at this time (per auction sale price)$7000. per acre.
Feeder calfs........130...you do the math
I have 3 employees.
I do my quarterly statements with the gov. on taxes, which I highly doubt, you have a clue what that is.

You are such an idiot. I know most of tax laws.
I don't know them all, and doubt if anyone does.

Point is and shall remaim.........you can't take it as a charity contribution if some one else gives it.

P.S. Please print your net worth...mr bill gates!

Have a great day. I don't have time to argue with someone that doesn't know crap about tax laws. I will soon be in the field planting. While your still on here protecting your friends or your self.

To the person first posting, move on to a better job.

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Old Fart wrote:

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Your right you don't have to prove a thing to me. But you did start this crap about having so much. So now my simple question is " what's the bet?" and how do you plan we prove it out. I am still game even after your grand boosting.
As far as the deduction. One of the earlier posters hit it on the nail. The employees likely have no use for the deduction so the business can and should use it. They need all the help they can get to keep employing people in this economy. What would you suggest that the tax advantage just not be used at all? That's silly!

Thats how stupid you are!
You just don't get it!
The deduction doesn't belong to damron....period! NOT LEGAL!
Doesn't matter if no one takes it.
You must be a damron or in the family.

End of conversation.........

[you pig]

Answer wrote:

For the person who is still bickering about tips going to good causes. See below:
OUR MISSION AT PL DAMRON'S CAFE
A portion of our cafe sales goes to help one of the following in our community,
Food Pantry, Salvation Army & Angel Tree, Senior Citizens Center,
Relay for Life, Local Mission Projects, Good Samaritan Fund.
TOTAL DONATIONS GIVIN
2008-2010 $6989.26
2011 $3,239.16
Wonder thing they are doing for your local community. Keep it folks, wish more businesses would do this as well.

better yet how about letting your employs keep the tips and give the donations out of your pocket mr and mrs damron. i for one wont eat there again!! thats what i thought!!! wont happen. its easy to give other peoples money then sit back and take all the pats on the back. are how about you match the money $3,239.16 in tips and you match it mr and mrs damron???

[Answer]

I guess you all don't get it!!! They tell you up FRONT what will happen, it is your choice to work there after that. POINT BLANK TO THE POINT! Gosh, don't get you get it, let it go, quick bickering about it. it will not get you anywhere and they are not going to change just because you are pissed off about it.

[Ut Oh]

I agree with here we go and you pig. The tips should go to the servers, especially if they aren't getting minimum wage. The reason food service is allowed to pay less than minimum wage IS BECAUSE the workers recieve tips. I believe though, that if their tips plus pay don't equal minimum wage than the employer is supposed to make up for the difference. Otherwise that seems like slavery to me.

And I also think it's not quite kosher for Damrom's to take other worker's tips, that they worked hard for, and give them away to chairity, AND keep the tax deduction. Something is a little stinky about that.
Maybe the Damroms should quit worrying about giving charity to their community for the tax deduction and worry that their employees can support their families on the wages they are paid. That's seems like a better priority.

[tuff s__t]

Typical liberal mind set, I'll take from you and decide who gets the bennies because I want to take credit and hard working low income folks are not smart enough to do this the way I think it should be done.

[A few things]

Few points worth mentioning.
Everyone has a different tax situation, and therefore without knowing the "server and or waitstaff's" financial obligations or lack there of, you cannot advise whether or not it is wiser to take a standard deduction and not itemize. They may have there own business and have losses for the last few years. Maybe they are counting on those tips to pay there tuition and health insurance premiums, because maybe he or she is under 26 and parents are actually employed.
Any agreement made by Damron's with employees to use their tips for "any purpose" is immediately null and void, because it contradicts state and federal labor laws. The only way tip monies could legally be processed were if the employees were their tip monies after proper withholding and reporting by Damron's, and then collectively put there money into a trust or association created collectively by Damron's & Employees as part of a charity or nonprofit.
And if Damron's was doing it ethically and properly, they would ask employees to contribute a portion of there tips, and then match the employees donation 100% in which case the employee and employer would be able to claim a deduction.
In any case the situation sounds highly illicit, and employees should be referred to the Illinois Dept. of Labor, and file a claim and investigation will ensue. After the audit, if Damron's was operating ethically there is no problem. Employees are protected from retaliation in these matters. If the audit comes up with discrepincies, then employer is liable for monies owed, penalties, and awards made by the board. Reasons like this are the reason we have insurance and bonds.
I would like to add I think Damron's is a wonderful little spot, and have faith they operate or will operate ethically and for the greater good.
However I am starting to doubt that considering the companies filing with IL SOS is an LLC and not an association or a 501(c)(3) not for profit corp. Of course you can still donate in any fashion but the mission statement claims that "A portion of our cafe sales goes to help one of the following in our community" which isn't exactly the case is it?
http://www.ilsos.gov/corporatellc/
you can search for file number "02742578"
LLC FILE DETAIL REPORT
Entity Name P L DAMRON'S, LLC File Number 02742578
Status ACTIVE On 04/02/2012
Entity Type LLC Type of LLC Domestic
File Date 04/09/2009 Jurisdiction IL
Agent Name PATRICK A. DAMRON Agent Change Date 04/09/2009
Agent Street Address 436 SOUTH VINE STREET Principal Office 436 SOUTH VINE STREET
KEWANEE, IL 61443
Agent City KEWANEE Management Type MBR View
Agent Zip 61443 Duration
Annual Report Filing Date 04/02/2012 For Year 2012
Series Name NOT AUTHORIZED TO ESTABLISH SERIES

[You retard]

Answer wrote:

Kowing someone that works there personally, they do pay fair wages because all the tips go to charity. What other resturant does something like that. Kodos to them! Anyways, I love their food.

$8 Per hr is under min wage.. That is illegal as hell you dummy.

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It's nice to know. That other people on here have some common sense.