First Prev
of 2
Next Last
ABC123

Princeton, IL

#21 Jan 7, 2010
ABC: Medical costs don't rise due to self-pay. Those who self-pay pay more and replace missing funds. It's true, look into yourself. I learned through experience, but also looked into it. It's those who don't pay (period), medicaid and insurance that keep medical costs rising. Yes, even insurance! Insurance companies get discounts, they never pay full price. This causes the cost of services to go up and self-payers pay more to make up for it.
Mandy

Bradenton, FL

#22 Jan 7, 2010
Okay...first of all I want to respond to some of the things "Nursegirl" has said.#1) you don't have the internet at home, so I am guessing you are probably playing online at work while those STATE DOLLARS help pay your wages.#2 I worked at a local business for almost 5 years and while working that job was still eligible for the medical card because they wages were so low. and now I wasn't flipping burgers, I worked for a well known city corporation that before being employed there believed they treated their employees good. For most of those 5 years I still payed for the insurance offered and used the medical card to cover the deductible and copays. Eventually I did drop the insurance offered because I could not afford to keep it. So not all people who are eligable for those things sit at home and don't work all day. Between my husband and I working we are still low income and eligble for the medical card. I will agree there are too many people in this town that abuse it....ae running thier kids into the ER for a runny nose instead of trying to make a doctors appointment. I have my own personal issues with Kewanee Hospital that I will keep to myself because personally, it's not the fault of the employees or nurses...but the administration has made some poor decisions....and many current employees will agree with me on that. Also after working for hospitals and dr. offices I have learned that the public aid takes a long time to pay, and also likes to write MOST of what they should pay. But that is not the patients fault...that is the agreement that was made between the state and the hospital. I am currently off work for my own personal reasons, and without you knowing alot of the specifics for why my decsion is they way it is I will tell you something else you can take into consideration.

Food for thought:
Say we(not me specifically but someone brought this up) take the job in Peoria or whatever since you have to drive for a decent job according to you. First off you need to take into account the cost of gas and such FOR the traveling costs. Also, some people cant afford to have a decent running car they can rely on to get them to work. Then you need to pay for a babysitter...which when I worked EXACTLY HALF of what I brought home went directly to day care. Then if you care traveling thats another 2 hours (on a day without snow) that you have to pay for a babysitter while you are not getting paid. I understand what you are trying to say....but there are a lot of things you need to take into consideration without making judgement and trying to make people feel like they are below you...honey- you don't have a clue. Though I may not be rolling in the dough I have a fantastic husband, supportive family, and the best kids anyone could ever ask for. so now I ask....who is the rich one??? Its all in the eye of the beholder my dear.
ABC

Philadelphia, PA

#23 Jan 8, 2010
ABC123 wrote:
ABC: Medical costs don't rise due to self-pay. Those who self-pay pay more and replace missing funds. It's true, look into yourself. I learned through experience, but also looked into it. It's those who don't pay (period), medicaid and insurance that keep medical costs rising. Yes, even insurance! Insurance companies get discounts, they never pay full price. This causes the cost of services to go up and self-payers pay more to make up for it.
I'm sorry that you miss read my post. I never said that medical cost go up because of self pay, I actually said the opposite, which is what you are saying. I said that self pay and insurance holders pay more because of the rates that medicare and the medical card pay. Yes insurances get a discounted rate as well, but the insured also pay the difference as they are billed from the hospital. The insured also pay a high rate to even be covered by that insurance so in reality is there a difference between those with private insurance and those that self pay, not really.

So before you try to jump down my throat and accuse me of writing incorrectly, realize what I wrote was accurate as quoted below.

"This causes the cost of services to go up for those of us to who have individual health insurance or self pay."
ABC

Philadelphia, PA

#24 Jan 8, 2010
workforfood wrote:
<quoted text>are u being dumb for free again?!,,i didnt blame anyone except who ever is in charge for bring jobs to the area,and if u were then i say if i had a chance i would run u out of town,,read what was said completely before opening ur yap trap,,that u have had a bad start is a matter of oppinion,like my case,so i dont judge others,,if u have pulled ur self up to where u think ur mess dont stink then oh well,yippie!!but for me i say if i write something,put me on igg and talk to the hand,,now have a good day,,,
Sorry if I offended you with the truth. I am not being dumb, and name calling is just a sign of ignorance. I don't judge others but I do believe we all have to have responsiblity for our own actions. We can only depend on ourselfs to better our lives, don't expect someone else to just hand it to you.

Hope truely hope you are able to get out of your situtation and into something better.

Just a word of advice, before calling someone names you should check your diction, at least sound educated and not just mean and hurtful when you do it. Loved the last line though, it did make me laugh.
ABC

Philadelphia, PA

#25 Jan 8, 2010
Oh and before anyone tries to call me on the use of "diction" it is actually a synonym if "wording".
Did you Say Something

Albany, GA

#26 Jan 8, 2010
ABC wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry that you miss read my post. I never said that medical cost go up because of self pay, I actually said the opposite, which is what you are saying. I said that self pay and insurance holders pay more because of the rates that medicare and the medical card pay. Yes insurances get a discounted rate as well, but the insured also pay the difference as they are billed from the hospital. The insured also pay a high rate to even be covered by that insurance so in reality is there a difference between those with private insurance and those that self pay, not really.
So before you try to jump down my throat and accuse me of writing incorrectly, realize what I wrote was accurate as quoted below.
"This causes the cost of services to go up for those of us to who have individual health insurance or self pay."
You need to know your facts. I have excellent insurance. I pay a co fee for an office visit. And no, my insurance pays for hospital visits - a small deductible, if any. Plans are all different. When you have no insurance, you pay a HELL of alot of money per Dr. visits or the full hospital fee. You get no break. However; my wonderful insurance company pays only a small percent they get a discount for making the deal with the hospitals. The hospitals then eat it, and pass the buck along to the uninsured.
Basically insurance companies make deals just the same as our states do. That is why health care is so expensive, along with alot of other factors. They keep raising rates, inflating cost.

The medicaid and medicare programs are what keep Kewanee Public going. Rural areas struggling everywhere. Kewanee Public is a stepping stone for many young Drs. I have had a public aid card as a young mother, no insurance(and paid every dime i owed) bad insurance... and now great insurance.

I have friends who are single mothers who make poverty wages but are employed have their children still on a medical card. Health care is a huge problem. Stop getting down on each other, and realize that their is a story behind each face. This health care package will be interesting. Everyone MUST carry insurance according to the plan, and for those that can not afford it there will be assistance? If you dont you will be fined?
Kewanee has more issues to deal with than who is carrying a medical card. Employment, and the type of employment where you could raise a family and pay the power bill and put food on the table.
Whoever walks through the door at Kewanee Hospital needs to be treated the same. The staff is paid well.
Did you Say Something

Albany, GA

#27 Jan 8, 2010
ABC123 wrote:
ABC: Medical costs don't rise due to self-pay. Those who self-pay pay more and replace missing funds. It's true, look into yourself. I learned through experience, but also looked into it. It's those who don't pay (period), medicaid and insurance that keep medical costs rising. Yes, even insurance! Insurance companies get discounts, they never pay full price. This causes the cost of services to go up and self-payers pay more to make up for it.
You are exactly on target. I should have read your post before I rambled on. Most people dont realize what You and I already understand. Its a big game out there. And it is not a level playing field.
ABC

Philadelphia, PA

#28 Jan 8, 2010
Did you Say Something wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to know your facts. I have excellent insurance. I pay a co fee for an office visit. And no, my insurance pays for hospital visits - a small deductible, if any. Plans are all different. When you have no insurance, you pay a HELL of alot of money per Dr. visits or the full hospital fee. You get no break. However; my wonderful insurance company pays only a small percent they get a discount for making the deal with the hospitals. The hospitals then eat it, and pass the buck along to the uninsured.
Basically insurance companies make deals just the same as our states do. That is why health care is so expensive, along with alot of other factors. They keep raising rates, inflating cost.
The medicaid and medicare programs are what keep Kewanee Public going. Rural areas struggling everywhere. Kewanee Public is a stepping stone for many young Drs. I have had a public aid card as a young mother, no insurance(and paid every dime i owed) bad insurance... and now great insurance.
I have friends who are single mothers who make poverty wages but are employed have their children still on a medical card. Health care is a huge problem. Stop getting down on each other, and realize that their is a story behind each face. This health care package will be interesting. Everyone MUST carry insurance according to the plan, and for those that can not afford it there will be assistance? If you dont you will be fined?
Kewanee has more issues to deal with than who is carrying a medical card. Employment, and the type of employment where you could raise a family and pay the power bill and put food on the table.
Whoever walks through the door at Kewanee Hospital needs to be treated the same. The staff is paid well.
I don't understand why everyone is so ready to argue about this when we are all saying the same thing. No matter what it is not acceptable for someone to be treated differently because of what they use to pay as a form of treatment; be it public assistance, private insurance, or self pay.

I do know my facts and you should have noticed that I did agree that insurances negotiate rates, these rates are no where near the rates that the state gets, ask any billing personal in any medical hospital or doctors office. Either way it doesn't matter we all have to pay our own dues.

I agree that this new bill should be interesting, there is truely no excuse why a child should not be covered with a health insurance. It is unfortunate that this is what we have come to.
not me

Princeton, IL

#29 Jan 8, 2010
ABC wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry if I offended you with the truth. I am not being dumb, and name calling is just a sign of ignorance. I don't judge others but I do believe we all have to have responsiblity for our own actions. We can only depend on ourselfs to better our lives, don't expect someone else to just hand it to you.
Hope truely hope you are able to get out of your situtation and into something better.
Just a word of advice, before calling someone names you should check your diction, at least sound educated and not just mean and hurtful when you do it. Loved the last line though, it did make me laugh.
everones story is different,so u pulled urself up,,again i say good for u,and im sure i will too,,as for my spelling,,oh well shot me,,i type so that the comom man can understand,,and yes u were/are being dumb because u didnt read everything that was wrote,,u insult ur self when u dont even know what was written,,btw,check my diction?wth does that mean,,dictionary maybe you mean?!!,,it amazes me how anyone can judge another,,loosen up ur pants and come down to earth,,i play no blame game,,i play the cards that i was dealt,,u play urs!!
somebody

Sterling, IL

#30 Jan 8, 2010
ABC wrote:
I know that many people need the medical card to provide health insurance to their families but what you probably don't realize is that the percentage that is actually paid by the medical card to the hospital to cover services rendered is much lower than needed to cover the cost of the services. This causes the cost of services to go up for those of us to who individual health insurance or self pay. So those that pay for the higher cost because of this do get annoyed with the people that abuse it.
So as to why they treat you like they do probably has something to do with the amount of times people with this card come into the ER because their child has a running nose. There are so many people at abuse this system that is is discerning to these workers.
I am not saying that all people abuse the system, but those who do ruin it for those that don't.
Boy did you hit it on the head! I would like to add though, why do these people on Medicaid keep having babies that they can't afford? Is it to get MORE help from the state, which by the way, SOME of us who pay taxes are actually paying for you to have babies! That is what's wrong with the health care in this country.
Too many people taking advantage of the system. There are people in this town who have had health insurance, lost their job, and
have health problems they can't afford to go to the doctor for.
Doesn't anyone see this? So, when you go to the hospital because your back hurts, wah,wah,don't care. The only thing I do care about is that you don't understand what you are doing! Keep having babies you can't pay for, unfortunately those babies will grow up to be just like you! It's a vicious cycle. Can't you take some responsiblity and make it stop?!
I'll be back!
not fiction

Jamaica, NY

#31 Jan 12, 2010
agree with the above statements! kinda funny how some people with the medical card want to complain how they are treated at the hospital, but not how they get the royal treatment at planned-parenthood at the health department. health department bends over backwards to make sure you are getting what is right for your body to prevent pregnancy. not only the health department, but your family doctor will do so as well.
medicaid recipients do not get treated poorly. the fact that some of these recipients use the ER for their primary care is what is frustrating to those in that ward.
WHATEVER

Newtown, PA

#32 Jan 15, 2010
Did you Say Something wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to know your facts. I have excellent insurance. I pay a co fee for an office visit. And no, my insurance pays for hospital visits - a small deductible, if any. Plans are all different. When you have no insurance, you pay a HELL of alot of money per Dr. visits or the full hospital fee. You get no break. However; my wonderful insurance company pays only a small percent they get a discount for making the deal with the hospitals. The hospitals then eat it, and pass the buck along to the uninsured.
Basically insurance companies make deals just the same as our states do. That is why health care is so expensive, along with alot of other factors. They keep raising rates, inflating cost.
The medicaid and medicare programs are what keep Kewanee Public going. Rural areas struggling everywhere. Kewanee Public is a stepping stone for many young Drs. I have had a public aid card as a young mother, no insurance(and paid every dime i owed) bad insurance... and now great insurance.
I have friends who are single mothers who make poverty wages but are employed have their children still on a medical card. Health care is a huge problem. Stop getting down on each other, and realize that their is a story behind each face. This health care package will be interesting. Everyone MUST carry insurance according to the plan, and for those that can not afford it there will be assistance? If you dont you will be fined?
Kewanee has more issues to deal with than who is carrying a medical card. Employment, and the type of employment where you could raise a family and pay the power bill and put food on the table.
Whoever walks through the door at Kewanee Hospital needs to be treated the same. The staff is paid well.
Not sure where you recieved your information about employee wages but I assure you that most are not well paid and are working multiple jobs.
Just me

United States

#33 Jan 15, 2010
NURSEGIRL wrote:
To those of you who want a job and can get access to the internet, there is a wonderful site to check out. It's www.illinoisskillsmatch.com It takes a bit to set it up but that site will match you to jobs and then notify you on that site on how to apply, that's how I have found my last 2 jobs. I am glad that you want to get a job workforfood. I am glad that you had a positive experience at the hospital. I wasn't cutting anyone down who had a bad childhood or doesn't work. I was commenting on the original entry in this thread which was saying that KH treats people bad if they have a medical card. I feel that is a COMPLETELY UNTRUE statement. You get what you give so most of the time in life if you are nice and you look respectable (for example...clean hair and clothes), you will be treated fairly and overall pretty good.
But doesn't those people deserve to be treated right and or like human beings too ? Some people have it alot harder than most..whether its because they don't have a job and or are on a medical card or maybe they have mental problems, etc. There are so many people that judge other people for stupid things, its just rediculous !!
And to comment on KH..its just a shame...some of the workers there are nice and good and appreciate what they have and enjoy helping others and then there are some that have their noses so frickin high up in the air they are sucking up the fresh air and clouds from the rest of us !!!
George

Canton, IL

#34 Mar 31, 2011
Did you Say Something wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to know your facts. I have excellent insurance. I pay a co fee for an office visit. And no, my insurance pays for hospital visits - a small deductible, if any. Plans are all different. When you have no insurance, you pay a HELL of alot of money per Dr. visits or the full hospital fee. You get no break. However; my wonderful insurance company pays only a small percent they get a discount for making the deal with the hospitals. The hospitals then eat it, and pass the buck along to the uninsured.
Basically insurance companies make deals just the same as our states do. That is why health care is so expensive, along with alot of other factors. They keep raising rates, inflating cost.
The medicaid and medicare programs are what keep Kewanee Public going. Rural areas struggling everywhere. Kewanee Public is a stepping stone for many young Drs. I have had a public aid card as a young mother, no insurance(and paid every dime i owed) bad insurance... and now great insurance.
I have friends who are single mothers who make poverty wages but are employed have their children still on a medical card. Health care is a huge problem. Stop getting down on each other, and realize that their is a story behind each face. This health care package will be interesting. Everyone MUST carry insurance according to the plan, and for those that can not afford it there will be assistance? If you dont you will be fined?
Kewanee has more issues to deal with than who is carrying a medical card. Employment, and the type of employment where you could raise a family and pay the power bill and put food on the table.
Whoever walks through the door at Kewanee Hospital needs to be treated the same. The staff is paid well.
Interesting...... I have worked at John Deere for 8 yrs. I have 4 kids, myself and my wife to support and we qualify for the Link Card !!!
sorry

United States

#35 Mar 31, 2011
Where is outsider! He should be reading this.
By the way it's kewanee hospital not kph. They dropped the p a few years back.
Outsider thinks all you people are bleeding heart liberals. And get to much money. Now don't yell at me, just read some of his old posts.
just saying.
George

Canton, IL

#36 Apr 1, 2011
sorry wrote:
Where is outsider! He should be reading this.
By the way it's kewanee hospital not kph. They dropped the p a few years back.
Outsider thinks all you people are bleeding heart liberals. And get to much money. Now don't yell at me, just read some of his old posts.
just saying.
Read some of his old posts....you are correct !! BTW...outsider is probably in a nursing home or in jail !!!
J Davis

Canton, IL

#37 Jan 10, 2013
David Clark wrote:
<quoted text>OMG...either ur blind or ur nose is so high that u dont get it,, Health care and food should not be a priviledge but a right for all humans!!!
What about us sub-humans ??
worker

Princeton, IL

#38 Jan 12, 2013
There are too many thta get away with taking advantage of the welfare systen for too long. They should be made to pay all that back even if it means jail time.Its my tax dollar now pay me back when I knock on all your doors to collect
girl

Kewanee, IL

#39 Mar 29, 2013
I will tell you this I do receive the medical card but I also go to a job and work 40 hours a week and I bust my ass and I paid rent and power and water and gas in my car to get back and forth and car insurance and I also pay union dues and I pay Medical every month from work but let me tell you what I have 2 kids after everything going out and even making the money I do I can't make ends meet how about you guys stop pointing fingers at all the people better on medical card for actually working I do receive medical card and so do my 2 kids but I bust my b*** at work every single day how about you go after all these father's Who Are making kids and not providing for them and as far is all well all these girls keep getting knocked up at not taking care of it how about the state drops there limitations instead of saying you have to be 25 or have 3 kids before will pay for your tubes to be tied how about you just let people do it. when I had my second kid I was 24 and they told me that they would not pay for it until I was 25 mind you I was 3 months away from me in 25 I'm not going to go in for an unnecessary surgery just because and I am on birth control but you guys all point fingers at everybody and want to sit here and talk about everybody that's on medical card or food stamps how about you don't judge people first when I actually some people do go out every day and do a drop I did and those taxes 2 and trust me they take a lot out and I just feel like I'm working to make and meet for my family but if I can't make ends meet that's what the supports there for me just because you see me swipe a card at the f****** store does not mean that I don't go to work everyday I am back actually to go to work everyday and as far as the name brand clothes at me or my kids maybe wearing how about we get home for Easter and Christmas and birthdays and I make ends meet. also a lot of my kids as close as well as mine come from first stores so just good well oreillys closet or Jesse's closet or how about garage sales just because of the name brand store or close does not mean that I actually paid name brand price for them. I jus realtor plenty of people inc you wanted that actually abuse the system if you have 10 kids in your 26 told you should probably stop spreading early and abuse in the system and get a job but there are actually some good people I care who you charge in point fingers at school may not look like I need it but do until you walk a mile in my shoes please to not judge me or anything because I take my kids to the arts whenever fever okay bye have never called doctor's office and tried to get your kids in that day for fever or try to work around your work schedule that doesn't always work sometimes I have to go to the yard and if you don't like it I'm sorry I might kids health and safety comes look for any of your opinions

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#40 Mar 29, 2013
Well for one. The state shouldn't have to pay for a woman to get her tubes tied. When keeping the legs closed would work and it's free. . I have no issue with those that are working and trying there hardest to provide for there family.What i have a problem is the ones that do nothing. They have 3 or 4 kids (not the childs fault) and dad sometime is in the picture and he maybe pays child support a couple times a year. The state needs to start getting tougher on the dead beat dads that are not supporting there kids. I think drug testing needs to be done on any one that gets food stamps, housing,medical,child care. I'm 100% for it You would see Illinois get out of debt fast. No one is paying my insurance, food, mortgage. Some of these people get $700 plus a month in food stamps for a family 6 I don't know about you. But if you know how to cook you could survive on 400 a month easy.Stop selling link for drugs ect.You must live within your means to make it. I would help those that i see working and taking care of there kids and trying, i would have no problem seeing those people continue getting help. But kick the druggies and people that abuse the system take them off.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Kewanee Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Unemployment benefits deposit issues. (Jun '14) Wed Kayy 34
Signs south of town Tue hammy 13
Topix needs to be shut down. (Oct '13) Tue hammy 20
weathersfield mod. Tue I Heart Boilermakers 4
How does the City read our water meters? (Jan '12) Tue jimmy the pig dison 29
Merry Christmas Jan 14 hmm 4
Kewanee Train Station Jan 14 Train Station Mayor 8

Kewanee Jobs

More from around the web

Personal Finance

Kewanee Mortgages