City changing electric co

City changing electric co

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just saying

Madison, TN

#2 Jan 14, 2012
Old Fart wrote:
Why
same reason anything happens in this town!! someone is getting paid!!!!!
smith and jones

United States

#3 Jan 14, 2012
read the paper!
it's going to be easier to hide the new rate increase.
both sides will be blameing each other for the increase.
thats why the power company is promoting everyone changing. they will still get their money for delivery no matter what. and thats the business they are in. delivery of service.
call mike jacobs (congressman) he passed the bill.
wait till the end of this year to see your new bill go up.
merry christmas early.
ppl

Kewanee, IL

#5 Jan 14, 2012
just saying wrote:
<quoted text>same reason anything happens in this town!! someone is getting paid!!!!!
i would love to pay someone to get a new cable company in town or at least an office again!!!
just saying

Madison, TN

#7 Jan 14, 2012
wow learn to read!!!!!! someone is getting paid cut and dry.trust me its not to save you or i anything. so greese up bend over and take it or pick up a well never mind.
yes mamm

United States

#9 Jan 14, 2012
I think, hes saying. Mike Jacobs got it pushed through because his father is a lobbiest for the power company. Thats what was on the news awhile back. Smart grid being built to benefit ameren. And the users will be paying for it. They don't have to get any approval for a rate increase just bump it up. Also read the paper. It said something about we may get a new electic service.
council watcher

Freeport, IL

#11 Jan 15, 2012
Electric purchase has been around since de-regulation. Large users have been able to do it for years, now residential and small business's can. This is for electric supply only, Ameren will still take care of the lines, read meters and provide the billing. What the council voted to put on the next ballot is called municipal aggregation. What this means is voters can decide to let the council select a consultant to go out and bid electric supply for anyone that does not opt out of the program. The larger the block of electric that is bid, the better the price for the contract period (1,2 or 3 years). The price is set for the contract length and can not increase. After the price is set users can opt out and will stay with Ameren for electric supply. The city estimated the average user would save between 50 and 100 bucks a year with aggregation.
number 6

Madison, TN

#13 Jan 15, 2012
what bullshit!!! we own all the lines and use to have our own power.why not just get wind and cut out the power compeny?
yes mamm

United States

#14 Jan 15, 2012
Old Fart wrote:
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How can the tax payers afford to pay a consultant to bid electric prices against the power co in place and save money?[/quote].

And your only going to save 50 to 100 dollars a year!
Like it was stated earlier, good way to hide raising the price you will pay.

some local politician is caught having taken some graft to get the deal done for the consulting firm. This smells of a deal being sponsored to serve someone's brother in law. Putting it on the ballet is a way of hiding who is pushing it locally.


Call Mike Jacobs (your congress man), he did it. His father lobbys for the power companys. Don't care who you vote for next time just not him.
JFK

Peru, IL

#15 Jan 16, 2012
council watcher wrote:
Electric purchase has been around since de-regulation. Large users have been able to do it for years, now residential and small business's can. This is for electric supply only, Ameren will still take care of the lines, read meters and provide the billing. What the council voted to put on the next ballot is called municipal aggregation. What this means is voters can decide to let the council select a consultant to go out and bid electric supply for anyone that does not opt out of the program. The larger the block of electric that is bid, the better the price for the contract period (1,2 or 3 years). The price is set for the contract length and can not increase. After the price is set users can opt out and will stay with Ameren for electric supply. The city estimated the average user would save between 50 and 100 bucks a year with aggregation.
Yes, the price is set, so when wholesale power goes down the price will still be set, thus screwing the consumer. It's a gamble they're taking more than anything, they have no idea what's going to happen with the price of wholesale power.
council watcher

Hinckley, IL

#16 Jan 16, 2012
Old Fart wrote:
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This sounds like a slippery slope. How can the tax payers afford to pay a consultant to bid electric prices against the power co in place and save money? This has been tried in other communities and the consumer gets screwed and usually some local politician is caught having taken some graft to get the deal done for the consulting firm. This smells of a deal being sponsored to serve someone's brother in law. Putting it on the ballet is a way of hiding who is pushing it locally.
WOW what a cinicalview with such limited factual information. The consultant's fee is added to the price of the supply, not the taxpayers paying up front. Many cities have used this program and saved money, just google municipal aggregation and look at the list of cities doing it.(Grayslake saved 30%). Even if it passes on the ballot YOU can still opt out and pay more!
council watcher

Hinckley, IL

#17 Jan 16, 2012
JFK wrote:
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Yes, the price is set, so when wholesale power goes down the price will still be set, thus screwing the consumer. It's a gamble they're taking more than anything, they have no idea what's going to happen with the price of wholesale power.
Really JFK, when was the last time Ameren lowered the supply rate. You do make a good point of taking a shorter contract of one year because longer would be more of a gamble.
JFK

Chicago, IL

#20 Jan 18, 2012
council watcher wrote:
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Really JFK, when was the last time Ameren lowered the supply rate. You do make a good point of taking a shorter contract of one year because longer would be more of a gamble.
You dont get it, while you are correct that Ameren doesnt lower the "supply" rate, what these places do is buy a block of wholesale power off the market, then sell it to you at that rate with Ameren's distribution charges tacked on, which may be cheaper now, but if the market goes down you would still be paying the rate they locked you in on, Fcc regulates the wholesale power costs, so that portion would go down on your bill with Ameren (the other rates could still go up) but if the market goes down you're still going to pay those locked up prices along with Amerens always rising distribution rates.
JFK

Chicago, IL

#22 Jan 19, 2012
Thats exactly what i wrote! The consumer will get screwed! Good points!

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