Police Association Calls for Dumler R...

Police Association Calls for Dumler Resignation

There are 207 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Apr 19, 2013, titled Police Association Calls for Dumler Resignation. In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

The purpose of this letter is to express our disappointment and vexation over the sexual battery conviction of Christopher Dumler, Albemarle County Board of Supervisor for the Scottsville District, and his continued resistance to voluntarily step down from his post.

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Bollocks

Stone Mountain, GA

#190 May 4, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>Harry, don't waste your time on this one. He's a throwback.
Nice way to try to curb the discussion. I've nearly had it. You have made claims that Dumler can't do his job and has been failing to attend meetings. Which ones, why would Dumler's presence have been important to these meetings, and why do we render somebody ineffective if they don't attend meetings? He has had to recuse himself from many board meetings until this case blows over, which is the most honorable thing to do in favor of the democratic process.

So do you have these meetings and their detail or was this just heard through the grapevine? The same grapevine that said he went to visit his mother in Georgia on his birthday?
Jose Santchez

Ruckersville, VA

#191 May 4, 2013
Good for Cville
harry

Wytheville, VA

#192 May 5, 2013
Dave Briggman wrote:
<quoted text>
There weren't any facts alleged, "Harry". See what I mean about people in Wytheville posting who don't think too much?
See the cover of ONE of the petitions circulated:
http://davebriggman.com/docs/Page_102.pdf
People who don't agree with you don't think? What is the definition of paranoia Dave? You appear to be a legend in your own mind.
You constantly skip over the fact that the judge (a person with real legal training) doesn't agree with you. The judge has the only opinion that matters in this case going to trial, yours doesn't. Dream on Dave.

Since: Apr 13

Elkton, VA

#193 May 5, 2013
harry wrote:
<quoted text>
People who don't agree with you don't think? What is the definition of paranoia Dave? You appear to be a legend in your own mind.
You constantly skip over the fact that the judge (a person with real legal training) doesn't agree with you. The judge has the only opinion that matters in this case going to trial, yours doesn't. Dream on Dave.
No Harry, in this discussion, only you and your Marine buddy don't think....you emote...and people who emote are dangerous in our society.
Bollocks

Stone Mountain, GA

#194 May 5, 2013
harry wrote:
<quoted text>
People who don't agree with you don't think? What is the definition of paranoia Dave? You appear to be a legend in your own mind.
You constantly skip over the fact that the judge (a person with real legal training) doesn't agree with you. The judge has the only opinion that matters in this case going to trial, yours doesn't. Dream on Dave.
It doesn't matter in the least what a judge's opinion is, and it matters as much as any person looking at this case from the outside in. We don't base legal positions off of opinions, we base them off of evidence. If what you say has any evidence to support it, bring it now. Or go away.

Dave's position makes complete sense to me. The premise of the entire civil case is baseless- the judge is either giving the opposition their day in court or has yielded to vocal pressure. Either way, the case will result in nothing aside from expensive legal costs and extensive legal system abuse. Dumler will keep his job, and you'll proceed to go to plan B, C, D, E and so on, until you finally intimidate him out of his seat. You won't be satisfied with the results of this case, and there's a silo of "battered" women just waiting for their $10,000 payout to stir the pot.

If this case had ended six months ago in Dumler's favor, the people would still be as aggressive and nasty as they are now. It's indicative that they nearly all have a motive- I wouldn't be surprised if they were mostly the same person or a corrupt political organization geared on taking down politicians they don't agree with. Dirty, dirty politics.
Dude

Spotsylvania, VA

#195 May 5, 2013
Bollocks wrote:
<quoted text>
If this case had ended six months ago in Dumler's favor, the people would still be as aggressive and nasty as they are now.
I don't believe that. I do believe there are special interest groups funding "think tanks" working very hard on writing propaganda to persuade people to vote against their own interests at low levels and working from bottom up, but if Dumler had been acquitted, no... There would be no leg to stand on.

Since: Apr 13

Elkton, VA

#196 May 6, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>I don't believe that. I do believe there are special interest groups funding "think tanks" working very hard on writing propaganda to persuade people to vote against their own interests at low levels and working from bottom up, but if Dumler had been acquitted, no... There would be no leg to stand on.
Dude, there's still no leg to stand on, and yet, here we are.
Bollocks

Stone Mountain, GA

#197 May 6, 2013
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>I don't believe that. I do believe there are special interest groups funding "think tanks" working very hard on writing propaganda to persuade people to vote against their own interests at low levels and working from bottom up, but if Dumler had been acquitted, no... There would be no leg to stand on.
I'll second that notion. The harder the push is, the more suspicious the intentions are. Let's not pretend that there ever was a leg to stand on- the allegations never went forward on the original charge so anybody who drew conclusions on the original charge have been kidding themselves, and hoping for worse. Dumler barely won the election, which means he had nearly 50% of the population that didn't agree with him already. There's plenty of motive to pull a few swing votes and strengthen the conservative party power, but it's an extremely dishonest way of going about it.

With all the Federal Investigations going on about Bob McDonnell over potential felony-level crimes, following his highly publicized infidelity scandal, I'm surprised there is hardly any chatroom buzz going about over Virginia's friggin' state governor. Not that I'm condemning the guy at the moment, but based on our bloodthirsty chatroom (established immediately following Dumler's arrest in October 2012), I would have figured the governor would have turned up a few death threats and several pushes to resign from office.

I guess deliberate misuse of taxpayer money isn't remotely comparable to our disapproval of one's personal life.
harry

Wytheville, VA

#198 May 6, 2013
Bollocks wrote:
<quoted text>
It doesn't matter in the least what a judge's opinion is, and it matters as much as any person looking at this case from the outside in. We don't base legal positions off of opinions, we base them off of evidence. If what you say has any evidence to support it, bring it now. Or go away.
Dave's position makes complete sense to me. The premise of the entire civil case is baseless- the judge is either giving the opposition their day in court or has yielded to vocal pressure. Either way, the case will result in nothing aside from expensive legal costs and extensive legal system abuse. Dumler will keep his job, and you'll proceed to go to plan B, C, D, E and so on, until you finally intimidate him out of his seat. You won't be satisfied with the results of this case, and there's a silo of "battered" women just waiting for their $10,000 payout to stir the pot.
If this case had ended six months ago in Dumler's favor, the people would still be as aggressive and nasty as they are now. It's indicative that they nearly all have a motive- I wouldn't be surprised if they were mostly the same person or a corrupt political organization geared on taking down politicians they don't agree with. Dirty, dirty politics.
The judge made a legal ruling based upon the law and the motions filed. That legal opinion and the ruling that followed is the only opinion that matters in this case. Your pettifogging doesn't change a thing and Dave and you haven't got a leg to stand on. The Judge ruled the premise of the civil case is not baseless therefore the case will go to trial.
Will Dumler prevail? It is possible, depending upon the totality of the evidence as the judge said. We'll wait and see. You and Dave on the other hand are woefully inconsistent. The same Judge you belittle over her recent ruling to go to trial is going to clear your boy at trial... and then be your hero?
I'm in the Scottsville district and don't like this guy representing me. He does not have the character I thought he had and after his guilty plea his effective representation of the district has been terrible. People don't want to consult him or attach any credibility to what he says. His fellow Supervisors shun him.
Politics? If the trial doesn't remove him the next election will. I don't much care which party. Meanwhile people in my District will be poorly represented and Dumler doesn't care.
Bollocks

Stone Mountain, GA

#199 May 6, 2013
harry wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm in the Scottsville district and don't like this guy representing me. He does not have the character I thought he had and after his guilty plea his effective representation of the district has been terrible. People don't want to consult him or attach any credibility to what he says. His fellow Supervisors shun him.
Politics? If the trial doesn't remove him the next election will. I don't much care which party. Meanwhile people in my District will be poorly represented and Dumler doesn't care.
We'll just see how the ruling goes- I can't really see how they could eject him from his seat, because it would either be on criminal case grounds or on neglecting his duties as supervisor. Either way, he has his bases covered. The latter doesn't count due to a misdemeanor conviction and the latter he will demonstrate for himself.

Let's not kid ourselves, many of his fellow Supervisors shunned him before he was even elected to the board. Doesn't matter who doesn't want to consult him, that's not Dumler's problem- it's theirs and they can cry me a river if they think that's somehow a two way street.

It's laughable that you suggest that he is ineffective at representing his district. Every base of his is completely covered. He is a more effective communicator, and as far as I know, is the only supervisor who regularly sends newsletters to his constituents. Whatever claims you think you have in court will hold no grounds for his removal and will simply reveal themselves to be emotionally charged banter. If the judge sets any rulings on his "ineffectiveness" as a supervisor, it would be grounds to wipe the entire board clean, because the rest of them are no more effective- just a set of 5 talking heads that cast a vote every now and then.

Don't count on him running again. He won't- I wouldn't be bothered representing such a vengeful, presumptuous community either. I'm also sorry you don't have a political stance- it's disturbing to see so many people acting carefree about politics until it comes to sticking their noses in politicians personal lives, as it it had any impact on their ability to do their job. Might as well see a television actor elected to office next, as your community obviously goes for drama & entertainment value over the actual issues.
Bollocks

Stone Mountain, GA

#200 May 6, 2013
harry wrote:
<quoted text>
The judge made a legal ruling based upon the law and the motions filed. That legal opinion and the ruling that followed is the only opinion that matters in this case. Your pettifogging doesn't change a thing and Dave and you haven't got a leg to stand on. The Judge ruled the premise of the civil case is not baseless therefore the case will go to trial.
Will Dumler prevail? It is possible, depending upon the totality of the evidence as the judge said. We'll wait and see. You and Dave on the other hand are woefully inconsistent. The same Judge you belittle over her recent ruling to go to trial is going to clear your boy at trial... and then be your hero?
I don't consider a judge being a hero for doing their job, but sometimes people screw up at their jobs. I'm not sure if we're on the same page or not- just because somebody goes to trial doesn't mean that they're guilty of the accusations. There are people prematurely labeling it as some sort of victory, and I beg to differ.

Dumler will be cleared of the accusations, but it's due to the will of the people that despite this he remain a pariah amongst the people that he aims to serve. Failure and suffering is what they want of him, after all, and they won't be satisfied until they see it done.
real central va Marine

Crozet, VA

#201 May 7, 2013
Bollocks wrote:
<quoted text>
We'll just see how the ruling goes- I can't really see how they could eject him from his seat, because it would either be on criminal case grounds or on neglecting his duties as supervisor. Either way, he has his bases covered. The latter doesn't count due to a misdemeanor conviction and the latter he will demonstrate for himself.
Let's not kid ourselves, many of his fellow Supervisors shunned him before he was even elected to the board. Doesn't matter who doesn't want to consult him, that's not Dumler's problem- it's theirs and they can cry me a river if they think that's somehow a two way street.
It's laughable that you suggest that he is ineffective at representing his district. Every base of his is completely covered. He is a more effective communicator, and as far as I know, is the only supervisor who regularly sends newsletters to his constituents. Whatever claims you think you have in court will hold no grounds for his removal and will simply reveal themselves to be emotionally charged banter. If the judge sets any rulings on his "ineffectiveness" as a supervisor, it would be grounds to wipe the entire board clean, because the rest of them are no more effective- just a set of 5 talking heads that cast a vote every now and then.
Don't count on him running again. He won't- I wouldn't be bothered representing such a vengeful, presumptuous community either. I'm also sorry you don't have a political stance- it's disturbing to see so many people acting carefree about politics until it comes to sticking their noses in politicians personal lives, as it it had any impact on their ability to do their job. Might as well see a television actor elected to office next, as your community obviously goes for drama & entertainment value over the actual issues.
Are you in his district?
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#202 May 7, 2013
Bollocks wrote:
<quoted text>
We'll just see how the ruling goes- I can't really see how they could eject him from his seat, because it would either be on criminal case grounds or on neglecting his duties as supervisor. Either way, he has his bases covered. The latter doesn't count due to a misdemeanor conviction and the latter he will demonstrate for himself.
Let's not kid ourselves, many of his fellow Supervisors shunned him before he was even elected to the board. Doesn't matter who doesn't want to consult him, that's not Dumler's problem- it's theirs and they can cry me a river if they think that's somehow a two way street.
It's laughable that you suggest that he is ineffective at representing his district. Every base of his is completely covered. He is a more effective communicator, and as far as I know, is the only supervisor who regularly sends newsletters to his constituents. Whatever claims you think you have in court will hold no grounds for his removal and will simply reveal themselves to be emotionally charged banter. If the judge sets any rulings on his "ineffectiveness" as a supervisor, it would be grounds to wipe the entire board clean, because the rest of them are no more effective- just a set of 5 talking heads that cast a vote every now and then.
Don't count on him running again. He won't- I wouldn't be bothered representing such a vengeful, presumptuous community either. I'm also sorry you don't have a political stance- it's disturbing to see so many people acting carefree about politics until it comes to sticking their noses in politicians personal lives, as it it had any impact on their ability to do their job. Might as well see a television actor elected to office next, as your community obviously goes for drama & entertainment value over the actual issues.
If we knew a sintilla more about the lives of the politicians who supposedly represent our interests we would probably faint.
Bollocks

Stone Mountain, GA

#203 May 7, 2013
real central va Marine wrote:
<quoted text>Are you in his district?
South Charlottesville, but I don't see why location matters. I'm close enough to the district to care. I fall just as close to Snow, Rooker, Thomas and Boyd as I do Dumler, and the majority of my information has come from Dumler through newsletters, telephone and email communication. I even got a very informative flyer about 2012 county progress and upcoming work to be done for 2013. That's going above and beyond the expectations of the average elected official. Regardless, I shouldn't expect more from one supervisor than I get from the rest. They're collectively our county's board after all, and so they do stand and fall equally on their own accomplishments, but they don't demonstrate nearly as much effort in communicating with the people who voted them in as I have seen with Dumler.

Setting a precedent will either force the other supervisors to be much more proactive. Dumler's ousting will, by fairness, equality and consistency, result in forcing out the remaining board members as well if it should be on the grounds of communication and doing one's job. In terms of participation, he's obligated to attend a meeting nearly every Wednesday, and weekend Jail time hasn't hampered that in the least. The remaining boards are neither obligatory nor necessary to be kept for his board position, and as many people have before stated, out of a respect for a potential conflict of interest, his resignations from them have been intended as temporary. As soon as this mess blows over, he'll be right back on them.
Cvillian

Charlottesville, VA

#204 May 7, 2013
If the local Courts don't get him, his Commander-in-Chief will:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-...

Since: Apr 13

Elkton, VA

#205 May 8, 2013
sez you wrote:
<quoted text>If we knew a sintilla more about the lives of the politicians who supposedly represent our interests we would probably faint.
S C I N T E L L A

Since: Apr 13

Elkton, VA

#206 May 8, 2013
Cvillian wrote:
If the local Courts don't get him, his Commander-in-Chief will:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-...
I think that has to do with intramember miilitary sexual assaults.
Cvillian

Charlottesville, VA

#207 May 8, 2013
Dave Briggman - it does NOT have to do with intramember assault within the military. The Lt Col in the Air Force was simply groping a woman in a car. She is a civilian. He was charged, not with felony Forcible Sodomy, but Sexual Battery. In my mother's time, this was called "mashing", unwanted touching where a man forces himself on a woman, though the clothes stay on. Today it's a misdemeanor crime. Our esteemed President is calling for the prosecution and discharge of these sex offenders, even for misdemeanor offenses. The military court is waaaaayyyy different than the civil courts, and Chris Dumler could receive jail time for his crime, but most likely will face a discharge. Of course, he knows all this already as he is a Capt. in the Army Reserves and an attorney with the JAG unit locally.

Hell hath no fury, Chris! The military courts will want to hear from the victims, and they will. Your plea agreement only protects you from further prosecution by the Commonwealth of Virginia, NOT by the military courts. As it turns out, they may get their day in court after all, under the secrecy of the military courts, where they won't be subject to public ridicule by your supporters and sexual assault deniers.
sez you

Charlottesville, VA

#208 May 8, 2013
Dave Briggman wrote:
<quoted text>
I think that has to do with intramember miilitary sexual assaults.
Maybe Dumster would enjoy a career in the military.
Disgusted with Dumler

Douglasville, GA

#209 May 9, 2013
Hey Civillian - it seems great minds think alike. I got an email and checked it out: http://www.chrisdumlermustgo.com/Take_Action/... . Lots of helpful links to our elected officials - most of them Democratic BTW - who we can contact! Yep, Air Force sex abuse scandal has much in common with Dumler sex abuse scandal. LOL it would be great if President Obama called out Dumler. After all he's a father of two teenage daughters himself; don't imagine he's too fond of sex abusers.

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