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Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#1 Nov 1, 2012
Would you vote for someone to be President of the U.S. who believes in many gods and that each god has their own planet? What about someone who believes that if they do right that they can become a God and have their own planet when they die?

If the answer is no and you plan to vote for Mitt Romney, you might want to research Mormonism before you do so.
fudge

Prestonsburg, KY

#2 Nov 1, 2012
"Freedom of religion is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community, in public or private, to manifest religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship, and observance; the concept is generally recognized also to include the freedom to change religion or not to follow any religion. The freedom to leave or discontinue membership in a religion or religious group —in religious terms called "apostasy" —is also a fundamental part of religious freedom, covered by Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Freedom of religion is considered by many people and nations to be a fundamental human right. In a country with a state religion, freedom of religion is generally considered to mean that the government permits religious practices of other sects besides the state religion, and does not persecute believers in other faiths."

This is a freedom that all Americans have, including whomever may be president. Would I refuse to vote for someone who is simply enjoying the same freedoms that you and I do? No.
Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#3 Nov 1, 2012
Yet both political parties use religious issues such as abortion and gay marriage as a ploy to get votes.

Come on now, get out of here with that "Freedom of religion" argument.

Everyone knows religion plays a HUGE part in how many people vote.

I just think people who claim to be Christians and are voting for Romney (just because he claims to stand for certain issues) should know the whole truth about the man.
fudge

Prestonsburg, KY

#4 Nov 1, 2012
Get out of here with my "freedom stuff"? Doesn't sound very American, does it? I do understand your point about how religion influences votes, but I also understand that there are many people in this country who aren't christian or have no religious beliefs at all. I myself have no religious beliefs, but I'll defend anyone's right to believe what they wish. Are you implying that our votes, the votes of non christian believers, don't count? That's absurd.
Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#5 Nov 2, 2012
fudge wrote:
Get out of here with my "freedom stuff"? Doesn't sound very American, does it? I do understand your point about how religion influences votes, but I also understand that there are many people in this country who aren't christian or have no religious beliefs at all. I myself have no religious beliefs, but I'll defend anyone's right to believe what they wish. Are you implying that our votes, the votes of non christian believers, don't count? That's absurd.
I never said that your vote doesn't count.

Are you saying you think it is o.k. for Republicans to use a few issues such as abortion and gay marriage as a ploy to get the Christian vote?

Because they are doing so, I am appealing to all of the fellow Christians out there and letting them know what Mitt Romney really believes and stands for.

We do have freedom of religion in this country and that means that Christian voters can use that freedom to vote for whoever they want to. And most Christian voters would not vote for a man like Mr. Romney if they truly knew what he believed.

I am an informer to those who have been misled and manipulated.

Your freedom of religion argument really has no place in this topic.

He has a freedom to believe whatever he wants to believe, but we have a freedom to not vote for him because of what he believes.
hell yea

Charleston, WV

#6 Nov 2, 2012
how about voting for a man who claims to christian but supports abortion, gay marriage and believes muslims to be right ? go obamaloney
fudge

Prestonsburg, KY

#7 Nov 2, 2012
My freedom of religion argument has no place in this topic! Your entire first post was about the religious beliefs of a man! An informer to those who have been mislead and manipulated? It seems as if your soul purpose here is to manipulate voters. Had you maybe worded differently the way you presented you information, you wouldn't have come across as being manipulative and being so anti Romney. Comes across as just another pro Obama campaign tactic.
Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#8 Nov 2, 2012
hell yea wrote:
how about voting for a man who claims to christian but supports abortion, gay marriage and believes muslims to be right ? go obamaloney
Romney was Pro-choice while he was Governor of Massachusetts. He only change his stance for the Presidential election.

President Obama has never stated he supports gay marriage and a President cannot do anything about it anyway. That is the beauty of our system. When did President Obama say me believes Muslims to be "right"?

Oh wait.....NEVER!.
Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#9 Nov 2, 2012
fudge wrote:
My freedom of religion argument has no place in this topic! Your entire first post was about the religious beliefs of a man! An informer to those who have been mislead and manipulated? It seems as if your soul purpose here is to manipulate voters. Had you maybe worded differently the way you presented you information, you wouldn't have come across as being manipulative and being so anti Romney. Comes across as just another pro Obama campaign tactic.
No, your freedom of religion has no place in this argument. If someone's religious rights were being violated they would.

Yeah, the Republican party have been trying to guilt Christian voters into voting a certain way for years using religion.

My sole purpose here is to inform people that have been led to believe that Mitt Romney fits more with Christian values than President Obama. They have been misled and manipulated.

It wouldn't have even been brought up if the Republicans didn't do what they did so your argument is moot and invalid.
chance

Logan, WV

#10 Nov 2, 2012
Truth Flinger wrote:
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No, your freedom of religion has no place in this argument. If someone's religious rights were being violated they would.
Yeah, the Republican party have been trying to guilt Christian voters into voting a certain way for years using religion.
My sole purpose here is to inform people that have been led to believe that Mitt Romney fits more with Christian values than President Obama. They have been misled and manipulated.
It wouldn't have even been brought up if the Republicans didn't do what they did so your argument is moot and invalid.
He may in fact have christian-like values. You don't have to be a bible thumper to have christian values. You don't have to be a christian to be president. Sure, he's going to try to appeal to everyone the best that he can to obtain as many votes as possible. What presidential campaign hasn't done that? Is he outright lying to us? Deceiving us? Who knows? But ok, your soul purpose here is to inform others, which you've done. If Romney becomes president, do you imagine he'll hang all christians? Do ya think he'll ban anyone from worshiping their chosen lord? Is the christian community being led into a trap that they'll find themselves singled out and segregated? I seriously doubt it. I don't see anything important enough about your "information" to start some kind of conspiracy theory, lol. Seems as if you're attempting to convince christian voters that they need to be afraid of something. But really it's just some detail you're trying to exploit in an attempt to sway christian voters. It's no less manipulative than what you're claiming someone else of doing. Also, your face is moot and invalid. ;)
Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#11 Nov 2, 2012
chance wrote:
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He may in fact have christian-like values. You don't have to be a bible thumper to have christian values. You don't have to be a christian to be president. Sure, he's going to try to appeal to everyone the best that he can to obtain as many votes as possible. What presidential campaign hasn't done that? Is he outright lying to us? Deceiving us? Who knows? But ok, your soul purpose here is to inform others, which you've done. If Romney becomes president, do you imagine he'll hang all christians? Do ya think he'll ban anyone from worshiping their chosen lord? Is the christian community being led into a trap that they'll find themselves singled out and segregated? I seriously doubt it. I don't see anything important enough about your "information" to start some kind of conspiracy theory, lol. Seems as if you're attempting to convince christian voters that they need to be afraid of something. But really it's just some detail you're trying to exploit in an attempt to sway christian voters. It's no less manipulative than what you're claiming someone else of doing. Also, your face is moot and invalid. ;)
I am just pointing out the fact that many Christians are being manipulated into voting for him and if they knew some facts about him, they wouldn't want to vote for him.

I personally believe that religion should be left out of politics, but when some people are having their votes stolen through lies and manipulation, I feel the need to step in.

Also, your mom is moot and invalid. ;)
fudge

Prestonsburg, KY

#12 Nov 2, 2012
lol I like you. But, I think we've made our points, so I'm done here. Forgive my ad hominem, just having a bit of fun.
hell yea

Charleston, WV

#13 Nov 4, 2012
Truth Flinger wrote:
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Romney was Pro-choice while he was Governor of Massachusetts. He only change his stance for the Presidential election.
President Obama has never stated he supports gay marriage and a President cannot do anything about it anyway. That is the beauty of our system. When did President Obama say me believes Muslims to be "right"?
Oh wait.....NEVER!.
http://online.wsj.com/article/ SB1000142405270230407030457739 4332545729926.html read this then utter your lie that he never said he supported gay marriage. then go read about his apology tour of the mid-east
Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#14 Nov 4, 2012
hell yea wrote:
<quoted text> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405270... read this then utter your lie that he never said he supported gay marriage. then go read about his apology tour of the mid-east
He does not support a same sex marriage amendment to the Constitution.

That is a fact.
Not Me

Tupper Lake, NY

#15 Nov 5, 2012
"If you voted for Obama the first time to prove you're not racist---vote for someone else this time to prove you're not stupid".
Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#16 Nov 5, 2012
Not Me wrote:
"If you voted for Obama the first time to prove you're not racist---vote for someone else this time to prove you're not stupid".
Sounds like a really dumb quote to me.

Must be from Limbaugh or Hannity or some other right wing nut job.

Nobody voted for Obama to prove they weren't racist, they voted for Obama because of his policies.
Not Me

Tupper Lake, NY

#17 Nov 5, 2012
If anybody voted for those policies, they must be stupid!
RomneySupporter

Winchester, KY

#18 Nov 5, 2012
Not Me wrote:
"If you voted for Obama the first time to prove you're not racist---vote for someone else this time to prove you're not stupid".
. Well Said!!!!!!!!!!
Truth Flinger

Elkview, WV

#19 Nov 5, 2012
Here, I fixed it for you!
Not Me wrote:
If anybody voted AGAINST those policies, they must be stupid!
Funny

Elkview, WV

#20 Nov 5, 2012
Not Me wrote:
"If you voted for Obama the first time to prove you're not racist---vote for someone else this time to prove you're not stupid".
I love that..lol...But it is the truth all the way

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