Orange Cove spent lavishly on a BMX p...

Orange Cove spent lavishly on a BMX park that is hardly used

There are 83 comments on the Fresno Bee story from May 24, 2009, titled Orange Cove spent lavishly on a BMX park that is hardly used. In it, Fresno Bee reports that:

The longtime mayor of this impoverished farming town, legendary in California for his political clout, scored another coup in 2004 by winning a $500,000 government grant for a state-of-the-art BMX bike park.

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“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#61 Jun 1, 2009
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ocm - YOU continue to demonstrate your inability to read and comprehend a simple sentence written for 8th grade level intellectual capacity.

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"WOW USING THE WORD "BITCH"SEEMS YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT ANYMORE."

The "bitch" was used for a very specific purpose in response to one of your friends, and LOPEZ Supporter - "over time". His post certainly implied that he was very familiar with "..mexicans love old white red necks in prison..".

His post prompted me to ask him/her three questions regarding his knowledge and experience.

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"WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS!"

What is the violation?

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"REMEMBER ORANGE COVE AND HE IS AN EDITOR OF THIS SITE"

So? And that does not limit my freedom of speech, any more than it does yours -- or the "garbage can" you use for source material.

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".. AND THERE ARE CHILDREN THAT COME IN THIS SITE."

Aaahhh yes, the "children". Does that imply that you and your friends (primarily LOPEZ SUPPORTERS) that attempt to demean and slander other people in Orange Cove are exempt?

For instance, your buddy "camera man"’s outrageous comments about an elected member of the City Council. And YOU, OCM, endorsed his allegations that are based on rumors (a term you used yourself). NO complaints, NO proof, NO documentation, NO Nothing – but rumors from sources that have no credibility (anonymous sources are not considered to be reliable by most law enforcement agencies).

How can you justify, as a VICTOR LOPEZ SUPPORTER, the attempts to despoil, tarnish, taint, and ruin this man's reputation!!! YOU and "camera man" are beyond outrageous -- if it is not criminal to do what you do ... it should be.

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"REMEMBER HE REPRESENTS GLENDA HILL GILBERT GARCIA ESTHER GONZALES"

Eldon Thompson does not represent anyone but himself. Don't take my word for that -- call or eMail the above individuals and ask them.

Oh, and then call or eMail VICTOR LOPEZ and ask him if he thinks all the KRAP spewed by ORANGE COVE MAN represents his thinking.

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"LET'S SEE WHERE THIS GOES"

Now that is a good thought.

NONE of the people you and the LOPEZ SUPPORTERS attempt to demean and demonize, have been investigated (past, present and future) by as many agencies as your favorite mayor.

But, then "LET'S SEE WHERE THIS GOES". If the City does not settle the Wrongful Termination Lawsuit, it is going to be great theater to watch your favorite mayor twist and turn on the witness stand in the Federal Courthouse.

I’m saving up my nickels for gas and lunch, so that I will not miss a day of the mayor, his family members, and some of his long-term clique going in and out of courtroom. I wonder if we can video tape those appearances?– NOW that would be another link to YouTube that OCM can post over and over and over again. We can also send it to the Governator, and he can post it on his web site with other Victor Lopez photo ops.

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2010 Election - OUT with the OLD !!!
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Respect

Los Angeles, CA

#62 Jun 1, 2009
What wrote:
<quoted text>
Feelings have nothing to do with it,I don't always agree with Thompson nor anyone else.Victor has done a lot of things,good and bad but they have not always been beneficial to the community or the citizens of our community.Feelings have no place in this discussion,the sooner the posters realize this, the sooner community reconciliation can start.
Maybe I stated the question wrong, But I'm glad you can be honest and agree the man has done good for this community.No one is perfect, we don't live in a perfect world.Thanks for being honest with you're opinion.
Respect

Los Angeles, CA

#63 Jun 1, 2009
Time 2 Move wrote:
sure victor lopez has done good things!
if your last name is lopez.
if you're not a lopez, the things he does really don't affect you. even if you pay tax's which in turn pay his and his kids' salaries.
Well I can't agree with you there, Maybe he helps his sons, but he does'nt help any other family members.I know many people in that family who are darn good people.Hard working and tax payers.And also I don't think you can get rich on a Mayors salary. The pay is not worth the stress that comes with the job.
What

Los Banos, CA

#64 Jun 1, 2009
Respect wrote:
<quoted text>
Well I can't agree with you there, Maybe he helps his sons, but he doesn't help any other family members.I know many people in that family who are darn good people.Hard working and tax payers.And also I don't think you can get rich on a Mayors salary. The pay is not worth the stress that comes with the job.
A person may not get rich on the mayors salary but the "residuals"(interpre t this as you may)will leave you much better off,maybe not rich.
ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#65 Jun 2, 2009
What wrote:
<quoted text>
A person may not get rich on the mayors salary but the "residuals"(interpre t this as you may)will leave you much better off,maybe not rich.
UUUHH?? YEAH WHAT YOU'R POST NAME IS "WHAT"
conserned old man

United States

#66 Jun 4, 2009
conserned old man wrote:
YOU ARE CORRECT::WATCH OUT==
YOU ARE RIGHT:::::YOU JUST MIGHT BE NEXT TO BE EXPOSED:::WHERE DID THE EXTRA $400.000 GO.?????HOW MUCH DOES THE 3/4 DEPUTY COST THE TAXPAYERS???I DONT THINK YOU CAN OBTAIN A GOVERMENT GRANT FOR PROTECTION::WITHOUT A POLICE DEPT> HOW MUCH DOES THE 3/4 DEPUTY COST???$250.000===$500.000 A YEAR.I WILL SAY:::ORANGE COVITE< YOU HAVE SOME NERVE TO ASK, ON TOP OF ALL THE FREEBIES< O.C. RECIEVES,ALLREADY==YOU NOW WANT HARD WORKING TAXPAYERS TO BUY HELMETS AS WELL AS BIKES FOR THE SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF ORANGE COVE.YOU CAN BUY VOTES SOME OF THE TIME:::BUT YOU CANT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME>>>AND YES >>>I DO STILL BELIEVE IN THE OLD FASION WAY::IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT <<<<DONT BUY IT<<<WHEN YOU GO INTO DEBT< SOME ONE HAS TO PAY<<<YOU BECOME A SLAVE TO THE HOLDER OF THE NOTE:::ie {CONTRACT}}}YES I BELIEVE IN WORKING FOR WHAT I RECEIVE:::::NOT THE CRADLE TO GRAVE, WOMB TO TOMB SOCIALIST FREEBIE HANDOUTS""AS I SAID BEFORE COVITE?????:::I WOULD CONTINUE TO DEBATE YOU ON THE TRUTH & SUBJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ALLUDED TO.<> I CAN'T <> I WOULD BE TAKING ON A UNARMED PERSON;;
ORANGE COVE MAN::WHY DO YOU NOT ADDRESS THE REBUTLE POINTS THAT I HAVE POSED TO YOU INSTEAD OF RAMBLING ON HOW EVERY ONE IS OUT TO GET YOU & VICTOR SR.???YOU SOUND LIKE A PARROT:::EXPOUSING THE SAME OLD RHETORIC::YOU MUST HAVE A BROWN RING AROUND YOUR NOSE::ITS BURIED SO FAR UP VICTOR LOPEZ'S ASS::I MEAN:::LETS TELL IT LIKE IT REALLY TIZ::::WHO ARE THE 2 PERSONS THAT HAS BEEN TAKING PAY FOR YEARS:::THAT AS I UNDERSTAND::ARE NOT LEGALLY ON DISABILITY
ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#67 Jun 4, 2009
conserned old man wrote:
<quoted text> ORANGE COVE MAN::WHY DO YOU NOT ADDRESS THE REBUTLE POINTS THAT I HAVE POSED TO YOU INSTEAD OF RAMBLING ON HOW EVERY ONE IS OUT TO GET YOU & VICTOR SR.???YOU SOUND LIKE A PARROT:::EXPOUSING THE SAME OLD RHETORIC::YOU MUST HAVE A BROWN RING AROUND YOUR NOSE::ITS BURIED SO FAR UP VICTOR LOPEZ'S ASS::I MEAN:::LETS TELL IT LIKE IT REALLY TIZ::::WHO ARE THE 2 PERSONS THAT HAS BEEN TAKING PAY FOR YEARS:::THAT AS I UNDERSTAND::ARE NOT LEGALLY ON DISABILITY
HERE YOU GO ONE GLENDAS SUPPORTERS POOR AND CONFUSED AKA THE THOMPSON GUY YOU POOR FOOL"I GET A GOOD LAUGH EVERY DAY THOMPSON"AKA BUBBLE BOY" OH BTW ID RATHER NOT SAY WHAT YOU SOUND LIKE YOU MA OFFENDED
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION
GREATDAY

Clovis, CA

#68 Jun 5, 2009
I have to give it to Orange Cove Man to stay on this topix site with absolutly no fact just a bunch of bullshit. That takes a good imagination and we all know Orange Cove Man has a good one of those.
conserned old man

United States

#69 Jun 5, 2009
ORANGE COVE MAN wrote:
<quoted text>
ELDON WELCOME OLD MAN"OH JR. DEFENDING HIS MEAL TICKET BETTER GET GOOD AND READY FOR WHATS COMING THERE WAY"GLENDA WILL LEARN FIRING SOME ONE UNJUSTLY SIMPLY DOES NOT GO WELL WITH GOVERNMENT LAW VICTOR JR ON THE OTHER HAND WAS MISCLASSIFIED AND INFACT IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF ORANGE COVE THEY WILL SOON FIND THERE HEADS TUCKED BETWEEN THERE LEGS SAYING HOW CAN THIS BEE RESEARCH PEOPLE IM SURE YOU HAVE YOU ARE MISSING KEY POINTS"THE GLENDA HILL CABAL DOES NOT CARE ABOUT OUR CHILDREN ALL THE NEWLY COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR IS A SIMPLE CHEER THEY HAVE NO CLUE THEY TRAVEL AND COME BACK EMPTY HANDED AND WILL CONTINUE TO CALL THE CITY ATTORNEY AND ASK QUESTIONS A WASTE OF TAX PAYER MONEY"FOR OVER TWO DECADES WHERE WAS GLENDA HILL WHERE WAS GILBERT GARCIA WHERE WAS ESTHER.NO WHERE TO BE FOUND NEVER ATTENDED ANY LOCAL FUNCTIONS NOW THERE INVOLVED ONCE THIS CITYN EVOLVED AND WANT TO TAKE THE CREDIT OF ANOTHER MANS WORK IS THAT THE CHRISTIAN WAY?NO IT IS NOT!AS I SEE IT GLENDA CARRIES THE BIBLE IN ONE HAND AND A DAGGER IN THE OTHER"
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION ONE MANS OBSERVATION"
"OH" NOW VICTOR LOPEZ JR IS A EMPLOYEE OF ORANGE COVE, FOR THE BENEFIT OF A NUSANCE SUIT:::NOT A INDEPENDANT CONTRACTOR; WHICH REQUIRES INSURANCE ;;;IS THIS THE GAME BEING PLAYED NOW??????{OPPORTUNIST} AND AS FOR THE TOYS THAT WAS DONATED TO VICTORS SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF ORANGE COVE FOR XMAS,:::IS IT CORRECT:::THAT VICTORS FAMILY PICKED OVER WHAT THEY WANTED BEFORE ALLOWING THE CHRILDREN TO DO SO??????::JUST ONE OLD MANS INQUISITIVE INQUIRY:::YES OR NO::
ORANGE COVE MAN

United States

#70 Jun 5, 2009
conserned old man wrote:
<quoted text> "OH" NOW VICTOR LOPEZ JR IS A EMPLOYEE OF ORANGE COVE, FOR THE BENEFIT OF A NUSANCE SUIT:::NOT A INDEPENDANT CONTRACTOR; WHICH REQUIRES INSURANCE ;;;IS THIS THE GAME BEING PLAYED NOW??????{OPPORTUNIST} AND AS FOR THE TOYS THAT WAS DONATED TO VICTORS SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF ORANGE COVE FOR XMAS,:::IS IT CORRECT:::THAT VICTORS FAMILY PICKED OVER WHAT THEY WANTED BEFORE ALLOWING THE CHRILDREN TO DO SO??????::JUST ONE OLD MANS INQUISITIVE INQUIRY:::YES OR NO::
THOMPSON YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOU'RSELF NOW LET ME GET THIS RIGHT YOU'R SAYING JR HAS NO RIGHTS AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY??? WOW" IGNORANCE HAS GOT THE BEST OF YOU. YOU'R PRESENCE CONTINUES TO PLAGUE THIS FORUM UNDOUBTABLY"THE CHILDREN FOR YOU'R INFORMATION RECEIVED AND WERE THANKFUL. YOU ALWAYS WILL TAKE ANY OPPROTUNITY YOU CAN TO THROW A LOW BLOW"CHUCKLING" BUT ALWAYS SEEM TO GET COUNTERED"
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION.

“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#71 Jun 5, 2009
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"..THOMPSON YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOU'RSELF.."

OCM - YOU are a piece of KRAP and a no good PUNK!!

YOU know I am going to continue telling you that, every time you accuse me of posting with another "name". I don't, never have, and never will.

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"concerned old man" is his own MAN ... and does not need any help from me.

He has made some interesting posts that challenge your ability to exercise the process of analysis and thinking ... I know, you have told us over and over that you are better educated than all of us ordinary people, but YOU have been failing to demonstrate all that education.

YOU just expect everyone to bow down and kiss victors ring as YOU do ... but that is not the way the world works.

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"COUNTERED" ... by whom?

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2010 Election - OUT with the OLD in Orange Cove!!
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ORANGE COVE MAN

United States

#72 Jun 5, 2009
thompson-Western Mavrick wrote:
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"..THOMPSON YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOU'RSELF.."
OCM - YOU are a piece of KRAP and a no good PUNK!!
YOU know I am going to continue telling you that, every time you accuse me of posting with another "name". I don't, never have, and never will.
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"concerned old man" is his own MAN ... and does not need any help from me.
He has made some interesting posts that challenge your ability to exercise the process of analysis and thinking ... I know, you have told us over and over that you are better educated than all of us ordinary people, but YOU have been failing to demonstrate all that education.
YOU just expect everyone to bow down and kiss victors ring as YOU do ... but that is not the way the world works.
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"COUNTERED" ... by whom?
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2010 Election - OUT with the OLD in Orange Cove!!
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EASY OL FELLAR DON'T GO AND BLOW A FUSE NOW"CHUCLING.NOW YOU BRING VICTORS NAME UP AND MAKE A STUPID STAEMENT (LAYMENS)KISSING SOMEONES RING IS THAT WHAT YOU DO TO GLENDA WHEN SHE IS IN YOU'R PRESENCE"OR IS IT HER BACK SIDE"!!!
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION
LUCKY

Cutler, CA

#73 Jun 6, 2009
I will pass your statement to Glenda and her family. I hope I see Ryan I would love to be the first person to say what "OCM" said about his mom.
This I think is a fact, if Mario, David, Victor Jr. or anybody like this wrote this and Ryan found out he would be able to kick any off their asses, but I can't speak for him so will just see what happens.
ORANGE COVE MAN

United States

#74 Jun 6, 2009
LUCKY wrote:
I will pass your statement to Glenda and her family. I hope I see Ryan I would love to be the first person to say what "OCM" said about his mom.
This I think is a fact, if Mario, David, Victor Jr. or anybody like this wrote this and Ryan found out he would be able to kick any off their asses, but I can't speak for him so will just see what happens.
WOW A THREAT"IM SURE THE SHERRIF DEPARTMENT WOULD SURLY LIKE TO MAKE A REPORT ABOUT THIS.NOW TO ANSWERE YOU'R QUESTION I AM NOT MARIO DAVID OR VICTOR JR AND I AM POSITIVE THEM BOYS CAN HANDLE THEMSELVES! NOW YOU MAKE A VERY INTERESTING STATEMENT ABOUT A QUESTION I HAVE POSTED TO THE THOMPSON GUY"IT WAS SIMPLY A REPLY TO THE REMARK HE MADE ABOUT MAYOR LOPEZ FOR THE ONE MILLIONTH TIME"AND IF IT WAS A CASE OF GO BEAT A GUY FOR TALKING ABOUT THERE PARENTS VICTOR JR DAVID OR ANY OTHER RELATIVE SHOULD HAVE BEATEN THEM UP LONG AGO"BUT THEY CHOOSE TO LET YOU MONGRALS CONTINUE TO DO WHAT YOU DO
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION
Randall

Elk Grove, CA

#87 Jan 8, 2016
oc native wrote:
<quoted text>
Perfect description of your self Eldon:
The ultimate example of an egomaniacal and arrogant personality ...
John Rankin the Fat Little Bastard
Calling himself DonkeyluvLOOney ,Mr_Sunshine,Misty Me , Hanni, Village Idiot , Drama Queen.!!!!

NO BALLS

John RankinLIAR creates SISSY Names

And Spreads his VICIOUS SLANDER LIES

LIBEL & SLANDER ..... Cyber Bully LOOney RankinLIAR When you do not have TRUTH this is what you must do as it is all you have .

20 years of LIBEL & SLANDER

NO DOCUMENTATION

NO BEING ABLE TO BACK -UP

JACK-SHIT !!!!!

PAY YOUR WATER BILL

FALSE WITNESSES
NON-EXISTING IMAGINARY LINKS
FALSE ACCUSATIONS
HIDING BEHIND NON-EXISTING IRRELEVANT LINKS
FALSE HOMEMADE U Tube Videos
ASSUMPTIONS & SPECULATIONS
DENIALISM a LOOney rankin sickness

HE SAID / SHE SAID

Coward -rankin has NO DOCUMENTATION !!!!!

Liar Rankin cries out .... YOU ARE A LIAR !!!!

http://youtu.be/C-m7zhsuAAg

Rankin bullshit

http://youtu.be/9U4Ha9HQvM

PATHALOGICAL narcissism

http://youtu.be/9mSrqleiz28

Drug Dealer Rankin

http://youtu.be/4eBFI4Ck-e

OC Times is not here to BACK-UP your LIBEL & SLANDER

PATHALOGICAL RankinLIAR cries out : you are a LIAR
donkeyluvlooney

Los Angeles, CA

#88 Jan 10, 2016
http://www.fresno.courts.ca.gov/_pdfs/Grand%2...

Report#10 page 226-231

FINDINGS

F1001 A City official stated that an emergency declaration was adopted by the City
Council, allowing for construction of the BMX Park without competitive bidding.
However, no record of an emergency declaration could be found.
F1002 A City official touted the economic benefits to the City for hosting a two-day
event. The City did not realize those benefits.
F1003 The City purchased BMX bikes for use by the children of Orange Cove, however,
they were unable to provide ownership documents.
F1004 There are currently no City owned BMX bikes available for use by the children
of Orange Cove.
F1005 No burglar/security alarm was connected to the building on the BMX Park site
that contained the various BMX equipment and bikes.
F1006 The Fresno County Sheriff’s Office was not notified of the burglary at the BMX
Park and the loss of equipment and bikes.
F1007 The BMX Park security guard stated under oath that the six BMX bikes were
donated to the City team were given to him. He further stated that he had the
right to sell them and keep the proceeds. However, no documentation was
submitted to support this claim.
F1008 The City no longer manages the BMX Park. The grand jury could not find a
written agreement between the City and the NBL for management of the park.
F1009 The California Department of Parks and Recreation has not reimbursed the City
of Orange Cove due to irregularities in City accounting practices.
F1010 The City did not provide bids showing it used the competitive bidding
process except for a contract to place asphalt on the banks of the BMX track.
F1011 The City paid vendor invoices for more than the corresponding invoice amount.
F1012 The City did not appoint a Project Manager to supervise the project and be
responsible for construction change orders.
F1013 The City Financial Officer (CFO) was excluded from the BMX project or any other
capital improvement projects.
high speed railway

Selma, CA

#90 Jan 19, 2016
businessmen and politicians will stay a nine day trip in Europe
why does a this have logic.
the businessmen will likely foot the bill; however city employees spend tax money for the opportunity to see a high speed train in spain. The reason is clear you must physically witness a High speed train to receive proof of existence. This is a Genius
donkeyluvlooney

Los Angeles, CA

#92 Jan 22, 2016
Randall wrote:
<quoted text>
John Rankin the Fat Little Bastard
http://www.fresno.courts.ca.go v/_pdfs/Grand%2...

Report#10 page 226-231

FINDINGS

F1001 A City official stated that an emergency declaration was adopted by the City
Council, allowing for construction of the BMX Park without competitive bidding.
However, no record of an emergency declaration could be found.
F1002 A City official touted the economic benefits to the City for hosting a two-day
event. The City did not realize those benefits.
F1003 The City purchased BMX bikes for use by the children of Orange Cove, however,
they were unable to provide ownership documents.
F1004 There are currently no City owned BMX bikes available for use by the children
of Orange Cove.
F1005 No burglar/security alarm was connected to the building on the BMX Park site
that contained the various BMX equipment and bikes.
F1006 The Fresno County Sheriff’s Office was not notified of the burglary at the BMX
Park and the loss of equipment and bikes.
F1007 The BMX Park security guard stated under oath that the six BMX bikes were
donated to the City team were given to him. He further stated that he had the
right to sell them and keep the proceeds. However, no documentation was
submitted to support this claim.
F1008 The City no longer manages the BMX Park. The grand jury could not find a
written agreement between the City and the NBL for management of the park.
F1009 The California Department of Parks and Recreation has not reimbursed the City
of Orange Cove due to irregularities in City accounting practices.
F1010 The City did not provide bids showing it used the competitive bidding
process except for a contract to place asphalt on the banks of the BMX track.
F1011 The City paid vendor invoices for more than the corresponding invoice amount.
F1012 The City did not appoint a Project Manager to supervise the project and be
responsible for construction change orders.
F1013 The City Financial Officer (CFO) was excluded from the BMX project or any other
capital improvement projects.
Horace

Sacramento, CA

#93 Jan 22, 2016
Reported

Donkeyluvlooney RankinLIAR if were telling the truth you should have reported this to the proper authority and have charges filed on your LIBEL & SLANDER but you chose to talk out your ass ....what a crying shame you hypocrite !!

Hit a nerve! Its only going to get worse for DonkeyluvLOOney RankinRAT .

PATHALOGICAL RankinLIAR your lies you tell on here wont change the facts that will be rolling out and arrest being made. This is just the start. How do ya like those donkey balls ???
Which Rankin MORON bought those for you?

Who's bright idea was it to bring donkey nose fat little Rankin BASTARD , to spread his LIBEL & SLANDER

What's LOOney RankiRAT's background and how did he pass a physical? Swallowing donkey BALLS
Horace

Sacramento, CA

#94 Jan 22, 2016
high speed railway wrote:
businessmen and politicians will stay a nine day trip in Europe
why does a this have logic.
the businessmen will likely foot the bill; however city employees spend tax money for the opportunity to see a high speed train in spain. The reason is clear you must physically witness a High speed train to receive proof of existence. This is a Genius
Reported

Donkeyluvlooney RankinLIAR if were telling the truth you should have reported this to the proper authority and have charges filed on your LIBEL & SLANDER but you chose to talk out your ass ....what a crying shame you hypocrite !!

Hit a nerve! Its only going to get worse for DonkeyluvLOOney RankinRAT .

PATHALOGICAL RankinLIAR your lies you tell on here wont change the facts that will be rolling out and arrest being made. This is just the start. How do ya like those donkey balls ???
Which Rankin MORON bought those for you?

Who's bright idea was it to bring donkey nose fat little Rankin BASTARD , to spread his LIBEL & SLANDER

What's LOOney RankiRAT's background and how did he pass a physical? Swallowing donkey BALLS

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