Orange Cove spent lavishly on a BMX park that is hardly used

May 24, 2009 Read more: Fresno Bee 74

The longtime mayor of this impoverished farming town, legendary in California for his political clout, scored another coup in 2004 by winning a $500,000 government grant for a state-of-the-art BMX bike park.

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“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#1 May 24, 2009
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"Blame God for it."

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Lopez dismisses his critics and says they are envious of his accomplishments.

"I would invite you to join me and sit in any restaurant of your choice and people will come up to me and honor me and congratulate me and say,'Beautiful job, Mayor Lopez,' " he said. " ... If people are going to be jealous because Victor Lopez is so successful, don't blame Victor Lopez for it. Blame God for it."

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The ultimate example of an egomaniacal and arrogant personality ...

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“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#2 May 24, 2009
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"It is 12:05 p.m., Sunday, May 24, 2009 ... Victor do you know where your defenders and supporters are?"

The "Bee" has been at front doors and in the retail outlets for about six hours ... I assumed we would see a gazillionnn supporters and defenders on Topix after this amount of time.

I’ve had City Council supporters on my phone since 06:45 this morning!!!

Maybe there is a web site for “Creative Defense Strategies for Amateur Politicos”.

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ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#3 May 24, 2009
thompson-Western Mavrick wrote:
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"It is 12:05 p.m., Sunday, May 24, 2009 ... Victor do you know where your defenders and supporters are?"
The "Bee" has been at front doors and in the retail outlets for about six hours ... I assumed we would see a gazillionnn supporters and defenders on Topix after this amount of time.
I’ve had City Council supporters on my phone since 06:45 this morning!!!
Maybe there is a web site for “Creative Defense Strategies for Amateur Politicos”.
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AMATEUR IS RIGHT!WHERE IS THE BIG WHOO RAH"THOMPSON YOU'R LIKE A CLOWN WALKING AROUND A CIRCUS WITH A DEFLATED BALLOON"A BUNCH OF HOT AIR"BASICALLY" THIS REPORTER PROVIDED FOR IT'S READERS.MANY OF THE PEOPLE QUESTIONED FOR THIS STORY WERE CRITICS OF MAYOR LOPEZ AND LEFT THE CITY FOR ONE OR MULTIPLE REASON OR ANOTHER"?BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT WAS THE POINT MADE?THE STORY KIND OF JUST DRAGGED ON WITH NO ENDING BUT "MIGHT LOSE THE FUNDING"GLENDA HILL JUST LOST THE CITY 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS"ANOTHER 1.9 IN GRANT FUNDS A TOTAL OF 3.1 MILLION DOLLARS"!!!AND WHERE IS THE PAPER NO WHERE TO BE FOUND OH BUT THE HILL TIMES WILL WRITE A RESPONSE JUSTIFYING WHY THEY DENIED IT AND IT WAS A STUPID MOVE FROM WHAT I CAN SEE.THE EX MANAGER MENTIONED AINT PLAYING WITH A FULL DECK"SOURCES SAY THERE WERE PROBLEMS OF HIS OWN IN THE WORK PLACE LETS JUST SAY WE WILL LEAVE THAT ALONE FOR NOW.THE INFAMOUS ODIE THE CHARACTER CLAIMING TO HAVE BEEN WRONGFULLY TERMINATED.AND YES WE ALL KNOW THE CASE PENDING TO NO WHERE HE WAS AN AT RISK EMPLOYEE.LOTS OF INFORMATION TO COME FROM THIS THE PUBLIC WILL "WOW".GAZILLION SUPPORTERS WHERE ARE YOU'RS?GLENDAS?ESTHER?YOU STATED YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE LINES SINCE EARLY MORN AND NO RESPONSE YET.A LIL DEFLATED WOULD'T YOU THINK. I TALKED TO MANY FOLKS TODAY THEY KNOW IT IS THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE INVOLVED GLENDA GILBERT ESTHER GO FIGURE WOW"
Maybe there is a web site for “Creative Defense Strategies for Amateur Politicos”.IF THERE IS SUCH LET GLENDA GILBERT AND ESTHER KNOW THEY FIT RIGHT IN".
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION ONE MANS OBSERVATION
oc native

Fresno, CA

#4 May 24, 2009
thompson-Western Mavrick wrote:
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"Blame God for it."
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Lopez dismisses his critics and says they are envious of his accomplishments.
"I would invite you to join me and sit in any restaurant of your choice and people will come up to me and honor me and congratulate me and say,'Beautiful job, Mayor Lopez,' " he said. " ... If people are going to be jealous because Victor Lopez is so successful, don't blame Victor Lopez for it. Blame God for it."
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The ultimate example of an egomaniacal and arrogant personality ...
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Perfect description of your self Eldon:
The ultimate example of an egomaniacal and arrogant personality ...
ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#5 May 24, 2009
Blame God for it."THE MAYOR GIVES PRAISE TO OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR FOR THE WORK HE DOES FOR THE PEOPLE"NOT LIKE HILL SAYING ME ME ME ME"I DID IT I DID IT"GO FIGURE! "MAYOR LOPEZ" WE ARE BEHIND YOU 110%
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION
conserned old man

United States

#6 May 24, 2009
ORANGE COVE MAN wrote:
<quoted text>
AMATEUR IS RIGHT!WHERE IS THE BIG WHOO RAH"THOMPSON YOU'R LIKE A CLOWN WALKING AROUND A CIRCUS WITH A DEFLATED BALLOON"A BUNCH OF HOT AIR"BASICALLY" THIS REPORTER PROVIDED FOR IT'S READERS.MANY OF THE PEOPLE QUESTIONED FOR THIS STORY WERE CRITICS OF MAYOR LOPEZ AND LEFT THE CITY FOR ONE OR MULTIPLE REASON OR ANOTHER"?BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT WAS THE POINT MADE?THE STORY KIND OF JUST DRAGGED ON WITH NO ENDING BUT "MIGHT LOSE THE FUNDING"GLENDA HILL JUST LOST THE CITY 1.2 MILLION DOLLARS"ANOTHER 1.9 IN GRANT FUNDS A TOTAL OF 3.1 MILLION DOLLARS"!!!AND WHERE IS THE PAPER NO WHERE TO BE FOUND OH BUT THE HILL TIMES WILL WRITE A RESPONSE JUSTIFYING WHY THEY DENIED IT AND IT WAS A STUPID MOVE FROM WHAT I CAN SEE.THE EX MANAGER MENTIONED AINT PLAYING WITH A FULL DECK"SOURCES SAY THERE WERE PROBLEMS OF HIS OWN IN THE WORK PLACE LETS JUST SAY WE WILL LEAVE THAT ALONE FOR NOW.THE INFAMOUS ODIE THE CHARACTER CLAIMING TO HAVE BEEN WRONGFULLY TERMINATED.AND YES WE ALL KNOW THE CASE PENDING TO NO WHERE HE WAS AN AT RISK EMPLOYEE.LOTS OF INFORMATION TO COME FROM THIS THE PUBLIC WILL "WOW".GAZILLION SUPPORTERS WHERE ARE YOU'RS?GLENDAS?ESTHER?YOU STATED YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE LINES SINCE EARLY MORN AND NO RESPONSE YET.A LIL DEFLATED WOULD'T YOU THINK. I TALKED TO MANY FOLKS TODAY THEY KNOW IT IS THE SAME GROUP OF PEOPLE INVOLVED GLENDA GILBERT ESTHER GO FIGURE WOW"
Maybe there is a web site for “Creative Defense Strategies for Amateur Politicos”.IF THERE IS SUCH LET GLENDA GILBERT AND ESTHER KNOW THEY FIT RIGHT IN".
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION ONE MANS OBSERVATION
SOUNDS LIKE VICTOR LOPAZ JR. IS AT IT AGAIN:::DEFENDING HIS MEAL TICKET:AS WELL AS HIS FATHER::JUSTICE DELAYED:::IS JUSTICE DENIED::JUSTICE HAS ARRIVED::ITS NOW ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE NUMBERS,{ DO NOT ADD UP'} READ THE FRESNO BEE FRONT PAGE, THEY ARE TRASHING OR PICKING ON VICTOR AGAIN:::MAY 24.2009;;;THEN DECIDE FOR YOURSELF::CUDOS::::TO MS HILL: AT LEAST SHE IS NOT ON THE TAKE> A.K.A.{MORDITA, A.K.A.{THE BITE} ORANGE COVE IS GOING TO MISS MAYOR LOPEZ & FAMILY:::::
Orange Cove

Fresno, CA

#7 May 24, 2009
Well the Fresno Bee can write what ever they want to. But this BMX track was built for the children of Orange Cove. Now if they use it or not it’s not anyone’s fault. What do you expect the Mayor to do drag the kids down to the park. All I know is this was something good for our community. Maybe some of the kids don’t have bikes. So why don’t Glenda and Wally donate some bikes to the less privileged children. Maybe Eldon can buy a bike and helmet .Help out this community. Concerned old man you sound bitter and full of hate. Sounds like you’re enjoying all the trashing the Bee is doing to Victor. You know I'm a firm believer of what goes around comes around.You maybe next?
conserned old man

United States

#8 May 25, 2009
YOU ARE CORRECT::WATCH OUT==
YOU ARE RIGHT:::::YOU JUST MIGHT BE NEXT TO BE EXPOSED:::WHERE DID THE EXTRA $400.000 GO.?????HOW MUCH DOES THE 3/4 DEPUTY COST THE TAXPAYERS???I DONT THINK YOU CAN OBTAIN A GOVERMENT GRANT FOR PROTECTION::WITHOUT A POLICE DEPT> HOW MUCH DOES THE 3/4 DEPUTY COST???$250.000===$500.000 A YEAR.I WILL SAY:::ORANGE COVITE< YOU HAVE SOME NERVE TO ASK, ON TOP OF ALL THE FREEBIES< O.C. RECIEVES,ALLREADY==YOU NOW WANT HARD WORKING TAXPAYERS TO BUY HELMETS AS WELL AS BIKES FOR THE SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF ORANGE COVE.YOU CAN BUY VOTES SOME OF THE TIME:::BUT YOU CANT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME>>>AND YES >>>I DO STILL BELIEVE IN THE OLD FASION WAY::IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT <<<<DONT BUY IT<<<WHEN YOU GO INTO DEBT< SOME ONE HAS TO PAY<<<YOU BECOME A SLAVE TO THE HOLDER OF THE NOTE:::ie {CONTRACT}}}YES I BELIEVE IN WORKING FOR WHAT I RECEIVE:::::NOT THE CRADLE TO GRAVE, WOMB TO TOMB SOCIALIST FREEBIE HANDOUTS""AS I SAID BEFORE COVITE?????:::I WOULD CONTINUE TO DEBATE YOU ON THE TRUTH & SUBJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ALLUDED TO.<> I CAN'T <> I WOULD BE TAKING ON A UNARMED PERSON;;
over time

United States

#9 May 25, 2009
first of all glenda hill is a crook shes a realtor just like her husband her husband got sued newton and sons settle out of court for a fire that he didnt mention stupid ass should of asked his brother gobbie and castle i have picks of them in action next to the alley remember haaa haaa i found who owns those appartments now she would love the picks wally tightn your buckle buddy mexicans love old white red necks in prison you and your husband i mean wife plan this stuff out along with goobie elbow nee pads helmets required joke manuel passing by the park looking gobbie passing by you guys made the park a ghost park so much talk of safty kids were nooo helmets noooo knee pads noooo helmets glenda you sooo stupid gibert you morin ester you look retarded
Orange Cove

Clovis, CA

#10 May 25, 2009
conserned old man wrote:
YOU ARE CORRECT::WATCH OUT==
YOU ARE RIGHT:::::YOU JUST MIGHT BE NEXT TO BE EXPOSED:::WHERE DID THE EXTRA $400.000 GO.?????HOW MUCH DOES THE 3/4 DEPUTY COST THE TAXPAYERS???I DONT THINK YOU CAN OBTAIN A GOVERMENT GRANT FOR PROTECTION::WITHOUT A POLICE DEPT> HOW MUCH DOES THE 3/4 DEPUTY COST???$250.000===$500.000 A YEAR.I WILL SAY:::ORANGE COVITE< YOU HAVE SOME NERVE TO ASK, ON TOP OF ALL THE FREEBIES< O.C. RECIEVES,ALLREADY==YOU NOW WANT HARD WORKING TAXPAYERS TO BUY HELMETS AS WELL AS BIKES FOR THE SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF ORANGE COVE.YOU CAN BUY VOTES SOME OF THE TIME:::BUT YOU CANT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME>>>AND YES >>>I DO STILL BELIEVE IN THE OLD FASION WAY::IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT <<<<DONT BUY IT<<<WHEN YOU GO INTO DEBT< SOME ONE HAS TO PAY<<<YOU BECOME A SLAVE TO THE HOLDER OF THE NOTE:::ie {CONTRACT}}}YES I BELIEVE IN WORKING FOR WHAT I RECEIVE:::::NOT THE CRADLE TO GRAVE, WOMB TO TOMB SOCIALIST FREEBIE HANDOUTS""AS I SAID BEFORE COVITE?????:::I WOULD CONTINUE TO DEBATE YOU ON THE TRUTH & SUBJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ALLUDED TO.<> I CAN'T <> I WOULD BE TAKING ON A UNARMED PERSON;;
Dear Concerned Old Man

I don’t even know where to begin .First of all I am a tax payer. And I pay my fair share in taxes .My comment I made was not hurting or offending anyone. Just making a point I have lived in this town for many years. This BMX and skate park was built for the children and community! You insult me by telling me, I have the nerve to ask certain people to buy a bike and helmet for the underprivileged children. Then I guess you should also complain to Glenda and the fire dept for getting toys for the children this past Christmas. Or maybe it’s another way of, like you said buying votes. Those are your words Mr. Concerned Old Man. You throw all these figures, grants and etc I really don’t believe it all came from you.( money for certain projects) You know if you’re not happy in this town you should pack up and leave. You can continue to debate me on the truth; everything you have stated how do we know it’s the truth. Buying votes is illegal sir so you’re very wrong there. Try to take a deep breath and count to ten and let some of that hate out of your system. It’s very healthy and good for you. If you really believe what you have written here on this topix, Show us your name. You can probably ask me to do the same, but just take a look at the kind of people who write on this topix.I rather be safe than sorry.
justakid

Clovis, CA

#11 May 25, 2009
Orange Cove wrote:
<quoted text>
Dear Concerned Old Man
I don’t even know where to begin .First of all I am a tax payer. And I pay my fair share in taxes .My comment I made was not hurting or offending anyone. Just making a point I have lived in this town for many years. This BMX and skate park was built for the children and community! You insult me by telling me, I have the nerve to ask certain people to buy a bike and helmet for the underprivileged children. Then I guess you should also complain to Glenda and the fire dept for getting toys for the children this past Christmas. Or maybe it’s another way of, like you said buying votes. Those are your words Mr. Concerned Old Man. You throw all these figures, grants and etc I really don’t believe it all came from you.( money for certain projects) You know if you’re not happy in this town you should pack up and leave. You can continue to debate me on the truth; everything you have stated how do we know it’s the truth. Buying votes is illegal sir so you’re very wrong there. Try to take a deep breath and count to ten and let some of that hate out of your system. It’s very healthy and good for you. If you really believe what you have written here on this topix, Show us your name. You can probably ask me to do the same, but just take a look at the kind of people who write on this topix.I rather be safe than sorry.
for once someone with brains lol
ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#12 May 25, 2009
conserned old man wrote:
<quoted text>SOUNDS LIKE VICTOR LOPAZ JR. IS AT IT AGAIN:::DEFENDING HIS MEAL TICKET:AS WELL AS HIS FATHER::JUSTICE DELAYED:::IS JUSTICE DENIED::JUSTICE HAS ARRIVED::ITS NOW ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE NUMBERS,{ DO NOT ADD UP'} READ THE FRESNO BEE FRONT PAGE, THEY ARE TRASHING OR PICKING ON VICTOR AGAIN:::MAY 24.2009;;;THEN DECIDE FOR YOURSELF::CUDOS::::TO MS HILL: AT LEAST SHE IS NOT ON THE TAKE> A.K.A.{MORDITA, A.K.A.{THE BITE} ORANGE COVE IS GOING TO MISS MAYOR LOPEZ & FAMILY:::::
ELDON WELCOME OLD MAN"OH JR. DEFENDING HIS MEAL TICKET BETTER GET GOOD AND READY FOR WHATS COMING THERE WAY"GLENDA WILL LEARN FIRING SOME ONE UNJUSTLY SIMPLY DOES NOT GO WELL WITH GOVERNMENT LAW VICTOR JR ON THE OTHER HAND WAS MISCLASSIFIED AND INFACT IS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF ORANGE COVE THEY WILL SOON FIND THERE HEADS TUCKED BETWEEN THERE LEGS SAYING HOW CAN THIS BEE RESEARCH PEOPLE IM SURE YOU HAVE YOU ARE MISSING KEY POINTS"THE GLENDA HILL CABAL DOES NOT CARE ABOUT OUR CHILDREN ALL THE NEWLY COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR IS A SIMPLE CHEER THEY HAVE NO CLUE THEY TRAVEL AND COME BACK EMPTY HANDED AND WILL CONTINUE TO CALL THE CITY ATTORNEY AND ASK QUESTIONS A WASTE OF TAX PAYER MONEY"FOR OVER TWO DECADES WHERE WAS GLENDA HILL WHERE WAS GILBERT GARCIA WHERE WAS ESTHER.NO WHERE TO BE FOUND NEVER ATTENDED ANY LOCAL FUNCTIONS NOW THERE INVOLVED ONCE THIS CITYN EVOLVED AND WANT TO TAKE THE CREDIT OF ANOTHER MANS WORK IS THAT THE CHRISTIAN WAY?NO IT IS NOT!AS I SEE IT GLENDA CARRIES THE BIBLE IN ONE HAND AND A DAGGER IN THE OTHER"
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION ONE MANS OBSERVATION"
ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#13 May 25, 2009
conserned old man wrote:
YOU ARE CORRECT::WATCH OUT==
YOU ARE RIGHT:::::YOU JUST MIGHT BE NEXT TO BE EXPOSED:::WHERE DID THE EXTRA $400.000 GO.?????HOW MUCH DOES THE 3/4 DEPUTY COST THE TAXPAYERS???I DONT THINK YOU CAN OBTAIN A GOVERMENT GRANT FOR PROTECTION::WITHOUT A POLICE DEPT> HOW MUCH DOES THE 3/4 DEPUTY COST???$250.000===$500.000 A YEAR.I WILL SAY:::ORANGE COVITE< YOU HAVE SOME NERVE TO ASK, ON TOP OF ALL THE FREEBIES< O.C. RECIEVES,ALLREADY==YOU NOW WANT HARD WORKING TAXPAYERS TO BUY HELMETS AS WELL AS BIKES FOR THE SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF ORANGE COVE.YOU CAN BUY VOTES SOME OF THE TIME:::BUT YOU CANT FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME>>>AND YES >>>I DO STILL BELIEVE IN THE OLD FASION WAY::IF YOU CANT AFFORD IT <<<<DONT BUY IT<<<WHEN YOU GO INTO DEBT< SOME ONE HAS TO PAY<<<YOU BECOME A SLAVE TO THE HOLDER OF THE NOTE:::ie {CONTRACT}}}YES I BELIEVE IN WORKING FOR WHAT I RECEIVE:::::NOT THE CRADLE TO GRAVE, WOMB TO TOMB SOCIALIST FREEBIE HANDOUTS""AS I SAID BEFORE COVITE?????:::I WOULD CONTINUE TO DEBATE YOU ON THE TRUTH & SUBJECTS THAT YOU HAVE ALLUDED TO.<> I CAN'T <> I WOULD BE TAKING ON A UNARMED PERSON;;
YOURE NOT SCARING ANYONE OLD MAN"A BUNCH OF HOGWASH"

“Government Accountability”

Since: Oct 07

Orange Cove

#14 May 25, 2009
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You can read the comments posted by "Fresno Bee" readers of the Lopez/BMX news article here;

http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/1423700-...

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Post #7;

"Now if they use it or not it’s not anyone’s fault. What do you expect the Mayor to do drag the kids down to the park."

It would have been a great idea for Lopez and Little to ask the community what they wanted in the way of entertainment infrastructure.

Just look at the positive results from the two Town Hall Meetings ... the citizens have expressed their needs and wants and the City Council is acting based on what the community has verbalized, not just what Lopez wants.

There is a HUGE pool of human resources in Orange Cove that is very capable. A vast array of life experience and business experience that has been left fallow ... this is no longer a one-man, one-family, tunnel-vision city.

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Post #3;

"A BUNCH OF HOT AIR"BASICALLY" THIS REPORTER PROVIDED FOR IT'S READERS."

Never-the-less, this “HOT AIR” has been read, analyzed, discussed, and is now in the “reading file” for elected officials and bureaucrats at various levels of government.

"MANY OF THE PEOPLE QUESTIONED FOR THIS STORY WERE CRITICS OF MAYOR LOPEZ AND LEFT THE CITY FOR ONE OR MULTIPLE REASON OR ANOTHER"?"

Is it illegal to be a critic of your mayor?

"BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT WAS THE POINT MADE?THE STORY KIND OF JUST DRAGGED ON WITH NO ENDING"

The "story" was well written and well documented. There were numerous interviews with people that don't hate your mayor. Many of them are business people with experience beyond the little world of Orange Cove.

The reporter provided the WHO, WHAT, WHERE, HOW and WHEN. That is good reporting. The writing and documentation provide the "story" credibility.

I'm sure you are to sophisticated and urbane to take a position that every newspaper, magazine, Internet Blog, and editorial writer that may disagree with Lopez’s actions and policies, also "hates" your mayor. Is he so misunderstood that no one sees his greatness, except a few isolated supporters?

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If Lopez is a man of integrity and has a commitment to the community of Orange Cove, why was he a “NO_SHOW” at the American Legion Memorial Day Program on Monday, May 25, at Eaton Park? The Legion members and the public were honoring the ORANGE COVE VETERANS that lost their lives in the line of duty while serving in the U.S. Military.

Did you attend this Memorial Day service?

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orange cove

Clovis, CA

#15 May 25, 2009
thompson-Western Mavrick wrote:
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You can read the comments posted by "Fresno Bee" readers of the Lopez/BMX news article here;
http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/1423700-...
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Post #7;
"Now if they use it or not it’s not anyone’s fault. What do you expect the Mayor to do drag the kids down to the park."
It would have been a great idea for Lopez and Little to ask the community what they wanted in the way of entertainment infrastructure.
Just look at the positive results from the two Town Hall Meetings ... the citizens have expressed their needs and wants and the City Council is acting based on what the community has verbalized, not just what Lopez wants.
There is a HUGE pool of human resources in Orange Cove that is very capable. A vast array of life experience and business experience that has been left fallow ... this is no longer a one-man, one-family, tunnel-vision city.
~~~
Post #3;
"A BUNCH OF HOT AIR"BASICALLY" THIS REPORTER PROVIDED FOR IT'S READERS."
Never-the-less, this “HOT AIR” has been read, analyzed, discussed, and is now in the “reading file” for elected officials and bureaucrats at various levels of government.
"MANY OF THE PEOPLE QUESTIONED FOR THIS STORY WERE CRITICS OF MAYOR LOPEZ AND LEFT THE CITY FOR ONE OR MULTIPLE REASON OR ANOTHER"?"
Is it illegal to be a critic of your mayor?
"BUT THE REAL QUESTION IS WHAT WAS THE POINT MADE?THE STORY KIND OF JUST DRAGGED ON WITH NO ENDING"
The "story" was well written and well documented. There were numerous interviews with people that don't hate your mayor. Many of them are business people with experience beyond the little world of Orange Cove.
The reporter provided the WHO, WHAT, WHERE, HOW and WHEN. That is good reporting. The writing and documentation provide the "story" credibility.
I'm sure you are to sophisticated and urbane to take a position that every newspaper, magazine, Internet Blog, and editorial writer that may disagree with Lopez’s actions and policies, also "hates" your mayor. Is he so misunderstood that no one sees his greatness, except a few isolated supporters?
~~~
If Lopez is a man of integrity and has a commitment to the community of Orange Cove, why was he a “NO_SHOW” at the American Legion Memorial Day Program on Monday, May 25, at Eaton Park? The Legion members and the public were honoring the ORANGE COVE VETERANS that lost their lives in the line of duty while serving in the U.S. Military.
Did you attend this Memorial Day service?
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Post #7;
"Now if they use it or not it’s not anyone’s fault. What do you expect the Mayor to do drag the kids down to the park."
Eldon Thompson:
It would have been a great idea for Lopez and Little to ask the community what they wanted in the way of entertainment infrastructure.

Now how do you know if Mayor Lopez and the city council asked or didn’t. I know there are certain grants that can only be used for certain projects. So could it be that the money had to be used for the BMX and skate park thats what a lot of people don’t understand, when there is a grant it has to be used the way the government wants it to be used. It’s just like at the schools with the Title one money, they can’t be used how we the parents or school officials want the money to be spent on.
So now you’re going to dam a person who brought something good to Orange Cove kids. Don’t you think it's better for they the (children) to be at a BMX or skate park than into gangs? You Mr. Thompson are a terrible person, just because you dislike Mayor Lopez, you don’t have to like him it’s your choice. But at least try to get along with each other.
And yes I was there this morning before 10:00 am. You see I know you but you don’t know me.
Well this can go on forever and we will never agree.
orange cove

Clovis, CA

#16 May 25, 2009
Post #7;
"Now if they use it or not it’s not anyone’s fault. What do you expect the Mayor to do drag the kids down to the park."
Eldon Thompson:
It would have been a great idea for Lopez and Little to ask the community what they wanted in the way of entertainment infrastructure.

Now how do you know if Mayor Lopez and the city council asked or didn’t. I know there are certain grants that can only be used for certain projects. So could it be that the money had to be used for the BMX and skate parkThats what a lot of people don’t understand, when there is a grant it has to be used the way the government wants it to be used. It’s just like at the schools with the Title one money, they can’t be used how we the parents or school officials want the money to be spent on.
So now you’re going to dam a person who brought something good to Orange Cove kids. Don’t you think it's better for them the (children) to be at a BMX or skate park than into gangs? You Mr. Thompson are a terrible person, just because you dislike Mayor Lopez, you don’t have to like him it’s your choice. But at least try to get along with each other.
And yes I was there this morning before 10:00 am. You see I know you but you don’t know me.
ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#17 May 25, 2009
It would have been a great idea for Lopez and Little to ask the community what they wanted in the way of entertainment infrastructure.
THEY DID THE CHILDREN IN THE COMMUNITY PICK AND CHOSE DIFFERENT PARTS OF DIFFERENT SCHEMES WICH SITE DESIGN WICH WAS THE CONTRACTOR WHO BUILT.THE CHILDREN OF THIS COMMUNITY WANTED A SKATE PARK DON'T BE SO IGNORANT THOMPSON"BUT YET AGAIN THAT IS YOU'RE NATURE"
Just look at the positive results from the two Town Hall Meetings ... the citizens have expressed their needs and wants and the City Council is acting based on what the community has verbalized, not just what Lopez wants.
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LIST A FEW GREAT IDEAS THE CABAL HAS COME UP WITH AT THIS TOWN HALL MEETING OF A FEW WICH A MAJORITY WAS THE A PART OF THE HILL CABAL"
There is a HUGE pool of human resources in Orange Cove that is very capable. A vast array of life experience and business experience that has been left fallow ... this is no longer a one-man, one-family, tunnel-vision city.
THIS ONE MAN YOU SPEAK OF IS AND HAS ALWAYS FOUGHT FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS COMMUNITY YOU CAN'T LIE TO THEM ANY LONGER" SO MANY WERE FOOLED BY THE HILL CABAL ABOUT THIS GIANT POLICE FORCE AT NO TAXATION TO THE PEOPLE WHERE IS IT?"WHERE IS THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT YOURE TRYING TO NOW USE 2 TO 5 YEAR GOALS SO THAT YOU CAN USE FOR THE NEXT ELECTION"WELL I'LL TELL YOU IT AINT GONNA WORK"
Never-the-less, this “HOT AIR” has been read, analyzed, discussed, and is now in the “reading file” for elected officials and bureaucrats at various levels of government.
AND AS ALWAYS THATS ALL IT WILL EVER BE READING MATERIAL CAUSE EVERYTHING YOU FOLKS HAVE EVER ACCUSED MAYOR LOPEZ OF NEVER MATERIALIZED TO ANYTHING.MRS HILL GILBERT AND ESTHER WILL NEED YOU REAL SOON THOMPSON REAL SOON BUT YOU'RE NOTHING MORE THAN A CHEERLEADER AND WILL NOT SIZE UP TO ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY.I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT.STAY TUNED ORANGE COVE IT IS COMING TO A TOWN NEAR YOU"
CONTINUE-
ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#18 May 25, 2009
CONTINUED-

Is it illegal to be a critic of your mayor?
(CHUCKLING)"NEVER"WE THE PEOPLE ASK THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU ABOUT GLENDA"ESTHER"GILBER T.

The "story" was well written and well documented. There were numerous interviews with people that don't hate your mayor. Many of them are business people with experience beyond the little world of Orange Cove.
CHUCKLING"OF COARSE YOU BELIEVE IT WAS WELL WRITTEN"YOU'RE HOPES AND PRAYERS DEPEND ON THIS BECOMING ANYTHING.BUT NOTICE ORANGE COVE "NO MENTION" OF GLENDA GILBERT ESTHER LOSING THE CITY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS RECENTLY"HUH?"

SOURCES HAVE STATED SINCE THE ARTICLE SOME OF THE PEOPL,E MENTIONED MAKING STATEMENTS WICH WOULD LOOK LIKE THEY DISAGREED SAY NO WAY DID I SAY IT LIKE THAT"THOMPSON GIVE MR.WILSON A CALL NO WAY DID HE EXPRESS HOW IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE PAPER YOU'RE DARN RIGHT YELLOW JOURNALISM"THEY SPENT A LOAD IN THERE INVESTIGATION AND FOR WHAT"WELL THEY MIGHT LOSE SOME FUNDING YOU LOST"OVER A MILLION DOLLARS WITH GLENDA HILL GIBERT GARCIA ESTHER GUTZALES AND YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT 400,000 IN FUNDING AN ADDITIONAL 1.9 MILLION DOLLARS IN FUNDING LOST BECAUSE OF HILL GARCIA GONZALES??????YOU'RE PATHETIC"

no one sees his greatness, except a few isolated supporters?
OH MANY SEE IT THE PERCEPTION YOU INVESTED INTO THE COMMUNITY IS ABOUT GO BANKRUPT NO ONE"IS BUYING ANYMORE SHARES AND IT SHOWED AT HILLS LAST EVENT THE CINCO DE MAYO FEST"

If Lopez is a man of integrity and has a commitment to the community of Orange Cove, why was he a “NO_SHOW” at the American Legion Memorial Day Program on Monday, May 25, at Eaton Park?

SILLY QUESTION FROM A SILLY PERSON"HOW WOULD YOU KNOW IF THE MAYOR WAS NOT ILL OUT OF TOWN ECT"WHERE IN THE HECK HAS GLENDA BEEN ALL THESE YEARS?" SHE HAS NEVER SHOWN HER FACE IVE BEEN THERE PAL MANY YEARS IN A ROW I DID NOT MAKE THE EVENT THIS YEAR FOR THE FACT I HAD TO WORK"IS THAT AGAINST THE LAW"SOURCES SAY BERTHA .D WASX ABLE TO MAKE GREAT WE ALL SUPPORT OUR VETERANS DAVID LOPEZ DEDICATED A FOURTH OF JULY SHOW IN REMEMBRANCE OF THE CURRENT AND THE FALLEN SOLDIERS WICH MANY HAVE SAID WAS THE BEST EVENT EVER"NOW THEY SHOULD FOLLOW IN HIS FOOTSTEPS AND REMEMBER WHO FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY"IT IS NOT ABOUT FIRE WORKS! NO IT'S ABOUT OUR FREEDOM"MEMORIAL DAY FORMALLY KNOWN AS DECORATION DAY IT COMMEMORATES U.S. MEN AND WOMEN WHO DIED WHILE IN THE MILITARY SERVICE.

The Legion members and the public were honoring the ORANGE COVE VETERANS that lost their lives in the line of duty while serving in the U.S. Military.

GREAT THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN WE SUPPORT OUR LEGION"NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT AND I HAVE ALWAYS SEEN THE MAYOR AT THAT SPECIFIC EVENT"
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION ONE MANS OBSERVATION.
Time 2 Move

Fresno, CA

#19 May 26, 2009
I agree with Eldon, the city should have been asked what to spend the grant on, and if it had certain guidelines, and there was not sufficient feedback to warrant building within those guidelines, maybe the city should have declined the grant. Just cause it's free doesn't mean you have to take it! I agree though that the park was a good idea and a chance we had to take. i don't think the issue is it's use, but it's lack of legality! it not being used is a shame, no bid contracts and paying family members for services not warranted is illegal. big difference. AND, people who donate bikes, helmets or any goods/services should be commended and thanked! these things are not to be expected but appreciated. it is just another case of people feeling they are entitled to what others have. because someone can afford to donate does not mean they should. why don't some of these kids show they deserve and appreciate gifts? seriously how much is a bike and helmet?$75 brand new?$30 on craigslist? stop making excuses and own up to taking care of your family. if you can't provide, don't expect others to!
ORANGE COVE MAN

Fresno, CA

#20 May 26, 2009
Time 2 Move wrote:
I agree with Eldon, the city should have been asked what to spend the grant on,
LOOK YOU DON'T GET GRANT MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND SAY LETS GO SHOPPING"YOU APPLY FOR THE GRANT WITH A SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IT IS YOU WANT TO BUILD"AND THE CHILDREN TOOK THIS IDEA TO THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL THE CHILDREN ALSO DESIGNED IT''AND THE PARK IS USED GLENDA HILL AND THE OTHER STOOGES DECIDED TO MAKE EVERYONE INCLUDING ADULTS TO WEAR ELBOW AND KNEE PADS WICH MANY SKATERS LOCALLY HAVE SAID IT IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE NOW YOU HAVE KIDS AT A UNMANNED PARK WEARING NO PROTECTION WHERE THE HELL WAS GLENDA GILBERT AND ESTHER THE OTHER DAY WHEN ALL THE KIDS IN THE PARK WERE THERE WITHNO PROTECTION?"
and if it had certain guidelines, and there was not sufficient feedback to warrant building within those guidelines, maybe the city should have declined the grant
DECLINE A GRANT SOUNDS LIKE GLENDAS LITTLE HELPER SHE GAVE UP A 1.9 MILLION DOLLAR GRANT RECENTLY GO FIGURE"
. Just cause it's free doesn't mean you have to take it!
THIS IS CRAZY THE IDEA OF A FIRST CLASS PARK FOR THIE KIDS IS A GREAT IDEA FROM THE KIDS THEM SELVES NO HARM IN THAT WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE FOR GRANT FUNDS"
I agree though that the park was a good idea and a chance we had to take.
YES IT WAS" IF WE AS GROWN FOLKS DO NOT PROVIDE ANYTHING FOR THE KIDS WHAT WILL THEY SAY "THERES NOTHING TO DO HERE THAT'S WHY THERES GANGS AMONGST OTHER THINGS"
AND THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF THE PARK A COMMUNITY GYM WEIGHTS EXERCISE DEPARTMENTS CONCESSION STAND A FISHING POND 15 ACRES OF PAINTBALL BATTING CAGES SOCCER FIELDS OPEN AREA FOR BBQ PITS AND SHADED AREAS"IM SURE GLENDA WANTS TO TAKE CREDIT FOR THE MAYORS IDEAS THIS WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL PARK ONCE IT IS COMPLETE"
i don't think the issue is it's use, but it's lack of legality! it not being used is a shame, no bid contracts and paying family members for services not warranted is illegal.
AGAIN A BUNCH OF BULL PERCEPTION AND IT IS NOT A USE ISSUE BUT A HATE ISSUE THE HILL CABAL WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT"EVERYTHING DONE LEGAL"
big difference. AND, people who donate bikes, helmets or any goods/services should be commended and thanked!
IM SURE THEY ARE"
these things are not to be expected but appreciated. it is just another case of people feeling they are entitled to what others have. because someone can afford to donate does not mean they should. why don't some of these kids show they deserve and appreciate gifts? seriously how much is a bike and helmet?$75 brand new?$30 on craigslist? stop making excuses and own up to taking care of your family. if you can't provide, don't expect others to!
THERE ARE MANY NEEDY FAMILIES IN ORANGE COVE THE MAYOR GAVE OVER 100 BIKES 2 CHRISTMAS AGO"BUT DUE TO WEATHER AND WORK NEEDED TO BE DONE TO THE TRACK LIKE A SPRINKLER SYSTEM YOU NOW GOT A CLOSED PARK DUE TO NO SUPERVISION GOOD JOB HILL"YOU'RE HATRED DROVE YOU TO DO THINGS UNJUSTLY AND IT WILL BE PROVEN SOON"
AS ALWAYS JUST ONE MANS OPINION

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