okay

Zanesville, OH

#83 Sep 16, 2010
intelectual ninja wrote:
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Um, genius "Bailey's" kids are over 21 so I am pretty sure they are allowed to drink, also they never played football, also they don't live here.
Bailey has a daughter that is a cheerleader in high school. Seen him walk her down the football field at parents night 3 weeks ago. Either she is really stupid or you are.
brother

Forest, OH

#84 Sep 17, 2010
okay wrote:
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Bailey has a daughter that is a cheerleader in high school. Seen him walk her down the football field at parents night 3 weeks ago. Either she is really stupid or you are.
he is stupid..all he does is play on the computer all day!!
kidatlifeworks

Zanesville, OH

#85 Sep 19, 2010
I actually go to school there. I will try to find out what the truth is about Shelly getting released from her position. I personally don't like her because she is the only reason I'm going there. Oh, let's not forget her little buddy Ryan. I got busted for a roach and by the time they got done with my charges I had resisting arrest and beating up 2 female probation officer's. Funny, I was the one with bruises on me from where I was thrown to the floor. Of course, they have video camera's in this place but for some reason they are never recording. If they were most of these kids would prove that these people up there are mean and hateful toward's these kids. They don't rehabilitate us, they treat us like crapt and we are suppose to take the abuse from them that we wouldn't accept from our parents. I have had my hair pulled and my wrist grabbed hard enough to leave bruises. Could my mom do anything about this? No, When she complained to the Judge he just overlooked the problem. I would like to thank the person that took it upon themself to turn these people in. You have alot of balls and I hope that they never find out who you are. Things need to change and you sound like a person that cares about the welfare of the kids up there.
GoodMom76

Kenton, OH

#86 Sep 27, 2010
I have worked with Shelly for many years and must admit she is not my favorite person at Lifeworks, but she only can ask for and get information that yes YOU the parent signs a release of information for to the school and for a mental health agency. If your therapist or school is giving out more than you signed for then complain to those agencies. Shelly has a masters degree in social work and does assessments for the court and the court team makes referrals based on that information and other items known to the court like past charges, dirty drug screens, etc. One person does not hold all the power, Judge Rapp makes the final decisions. Sometimes parents are too involved in their own worlds they do not see what their children are doing and might need a nudge from the court to get things straight again. Youth and families who have gone through the court process and have succeded and graduated have nothing but positive things to say.
okay okay wrote:
Shelly has been doing this since she started many years ago. She uses her position to go into the schools and get grades on kids and seek information about them - like you said such as their therapy sessions. Doesn't this fall under the privacy laws? No one should be able to do this. If this happened to your child, you really should call the school and ask if this is ethical. Then call Judge Rapps office and ask the same thing. This type of invasive behavior will prevent kids from opening up in therapy. For example, if they have a drug or stealing problem and want to talk about it and get help, do you think they will if they know their PO is going to read it? I would also tell the therapist. Any good therapist would intervene and put an end to this. If Shelly is really doing this, she needs fired. This is way beyond what her job is.
whatthefever

Zanesville, OH

#87 Sep 27, 2010
GoodMom76 wrote:
I have worked with Shelly for many years and must admit she is not my favorite person at Lifeworks, but she only can ask for and get information that yes YOU the parent signs a release of information for to the school and for a mental health agency. If your therapist or school is giving out more than you signed for then complain to those agencies. Shelly has a masters degree in social work and does assessments for the court and the court team makes referrals based on that information and other items known to the court like past charges, dirty drug screens, etc. One person does not hold all the power, Judge Rapp makes the final decisions. Sometimes parents are too involved in their own worlds they do not see what their children are doing and might need a nudge from the court to get things straight again. Youth and families who have gone through the court process and have succeded and graduated have nothing but positive things to say.
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Here's how Shelly works. She only marks that she is getting updated reports from the school or theraphist. The parent signs the paper. After the parent leaves she marks the rest. I actually busted her for doing this to my daughter. I asked to see the paper that I signed and I was smart enough to get a copy of what I signed. Not everything was marked, but god forbid when I seen it for the second time everything was marked. Thank god I keep everything.
I know one kid that is up there now that should not be. He did what his attorney informed him to do and now he is considered a flunky by the juvenile system. I know for a fact that his parents aren't to involved in their own world to take care of this kid. He isn't on drugs and doesn't agree with anyone doing them. He's a good student and citizen. Never been introuble a day in his life. To me that makes his parents great and they brought him up right. He could actually hurt his mom with one punch, but he never raises his voice to her. That is what I call respect.
My daughter on the other hand should of been up there. Always introuble with the law. You want to say that the Judge has the final say. What about in the case of this boy? He is a good person and would never hurt a fly. I've never seen a teenage boy more willing to help out anyone then him. The Judge should of thrown this case out of court. It shouldn't matter if he took the advise of his attorney or not. They are ruinning an innocent persons life.
okay

Zanesville, OH

#88 Sep 27, 2010
brother wrote:
<quoted text>he is stupid..all he does is play on the computer all day!!
agree, but his flunkies aren't any better. Look at Zerby. He was a geek in school and will always be a geek in my book. If I remember right the only way he made it through school was because his dad was on the staff. We need to get a better prosecutor and assistant here in Kenton.
soccermom

Zanesville, OH

#89 Sep 27, 2010
whatthefever wrote:
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Here's how Shelly works. She only marks that she is getting updated reports from the school or theraphist. The parent signs the paper. After the parent leaves she marks the rest. I actually busted her for doing this to my daughter. I asked to see the paper that I signed and I was smart enough to get a copy of what I signed. Not everything was marked, but god forbid when I seen it for the second time everything was marked. Thank god I keep everything.
I know one kid that is up there now that should not be. He did what his attorney informed him to do and now he is considered a flunky by the juvenile system. I know for a fact that his parents aren't to involved in their own world to take care of this kid. He isn't on drugs and doesn't agree with anyone doing them. He's a good student and citizen. Never been introuble a day in his life. To me that makes his parents great and they brought him up right. He could actually hurt his mom with one punch, but he never raises his voice to her. That is what I call respect.
My daughter on the other hand should of been up there. Always introuble with the law. You want to say that the Judge has the final say. What about in the case of this boy? He is a good person and would never hurt a fly. I've never seen a teenage boy more willing to help out anyone then him. The Judge should of thrown this case out of court. It shouldn't matter if he took the advise of his attorney or not. They are ruinning an innocent persons life.
At the same time she sits at the sporting events. Football and soccer and tells people why certain kids are up there. She informed me that one boy was introuble for something and that I should keep my daughter away from him. Upon talking to other parents about this kid I have found out that he was railroaded by his attorney and Zerby. All that they know is that his attorney told him to take the plea bargain. 99% of the parents that I talked to don't believe that this kid done anything wrong. Most of them have known him for years and are upset with the Judge's decision on this case. They feel that the Judge should of thrown it out. From what I gather for the last year he has actually stopped people from beating the other person up.
Personally I feel bad because after talking to these parents and not really knowing this boy I judged him based upon what Shelly told me.
Believe you and me I will be voting. After what I've heard I think Judge Rapp made the wrong decision to sentence this boy. He should of made the right decision to throw it out of court.
Actually, last Friday night at the football game there was a fight between this girl and other's in the band. She was running her mouth and nothing has been done to her? From what I understand from other parents she has sent out texts and has even told everything about what happened in court all over school. Where is the justice there? Judge Rapp, I ask you when are you going to start protecting this boys rights?
I do know that his parents were in the school to talk to the Vice Principal. Don't really know why, but I can only assume that people were still harrassing him.
From what I know when my daughter has went up to him to ask him what happened in court he just says that he did what is attorney told him to do. He refuses to say anything else. Why is it alright for her to say whatever she wants and never get introuble?
Personally, I think this girl is out to get attention and that is exactly what you Judge Rapp have given her.
I hope that his parents are going to appeal this.
iriquio

Lancaster, OH

#90 Sep 28, 2010
damn, sounds to me like we need a house cleaning, maybe we should just dig a big hole on the town square, then push the town in and give it back to the indians, a county child welfare so damn proud of over 200 children abused that we advertizeit on the court house lawn, how many cases werent reported,.///////////// come on carue mans, you saved us money replacing old xmas lights with energy efficient lights, but you intendto still use the old ones again to have more lights./////////////damn , my cat is laughing at you,wow, simply amazing.////is the false tammy really in jail./// heroigh, naw the real tammy is smiling, she got issues,but her thom is dealin with it./ amen, sorry my sons group isnt here to provide her therapy, lol.//remember the song./ i can help.. go on to work thom, i will help, smiles///////

Since: Aug 10

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#91 Sep 28, 2010
im thinkin your the one who needs therapy gampy(iriquio
soccermom

Zanesville, OH

#92 Sep 28, 2010
iriquio wrote:
damn, sounds to me like we need a house cleaning, maybe we should just dig a big hole on the town square, then push the town in and give it back to the indians, a county child welfare so damn proud of over 200 children abused that we advertizeit on the court house lawn, how many cases werent reported,.//////// come on carue mans, you saved us money replacing old xmas lights with energy efficient lights, but you intendto still use the old ones again to have more lights./////////damn , my cat is laughing at you,wow, simply amazing.////is the false tammy really in jail./// heroigh, naw the real tammy is smiling, she got issues,but her thom is dealin with it./ amen, sorry my sons group isnt here to provide her therapy, lol.//remember the song./ i can help.. go on to work thom, i will help, smiles///////
We do need a house cleaning within all the office's that are held here in Kenton. The only one that seems to be upholding the law is Grimslid. Read how much he gives out in fines for speeding, DUI, or seat belt violation. I can tell you it's way more than $50. Judge Hart is off in la-la land. Judge Rapp needs to really investigate what is going on up at Lifeworks. Get all new PO's and realize that some of these kids up there really don't belong. They got railroaded. As for Brad Bailey, if he thinks that he is going to re-elected then he is totally wrong. Him and His butt buddy Zerby has done to many people wrong in this town. Along with Jason Miller.
Human Service's and CSEA is a joke. Even the County Commissioners are useless. They refuse to help the people that really need help in this town and keep giving to the one's that keep having babies.
kay

Zanesville, OH

#93 Sep 30, 2010
Momrules wrote:
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I do think that some parents DO NOT follow the rules and then when their children dont follow the rules they are upset that there are consequences for their children and themselves. I also know there are teens out there that come from good homes and still get into trouble. My son was no angel either. Once he TPed someone's house and egged it. When I found out the next morning, he was taken to the house and cleaned up his mess. Now there were 5 other kids that did this with him, none of their parents made their kids go and I called them and let them know, but none of them thought that it was a big deal. Well I did and my kid stayed there for 5 hours cleaning up his mess and wrote an apology letter. People don't get it. We are not just raising kids. We are raising citizens to run this country 25 years from now. We are raising responsible human beings to take over where we left off. We are passing down our beliefs and molding responsible adults. The problem I see on this site is most of the "adults" posting are NOT responsible adults and they have no idea how to raise kids with morals and values, because their morals and values are so skewed. We can blame the world for our problems, but at the end of the day it is not the world looking back at the mirror at us, it is Me, I. We are raising a generation of victims, instead of raising a generation of responsible human beings.
You respond to your own post. Please stop talking this woman up. She sits at sporting events and tells everyone who is up at lifeworks and why. She needs to lose her job.
whatIheard

Zanesville, OH

#94 Oct 2, 2010
Funny all the PO's up at lifeworks are puppets being controlled by Judge Rapp. He needs to realize that he can't change the rules to make these kids stay in there longer. Just happened to me. I was told by my PO that when I paid all my fee's and fines off then I would be off probation. Paid them off and still can't get off probation. Passed all your drug test's and counseling that you have requested me to take. I laugh in your faces. That's right they have never given me or my parents anything and they play by their own rules. Not with me you won't. You don't know that I have a District Attorney in my family that let's me and my parents know what you can and can't do to me. You want to play games, I will make your lives just as miserable as you have made mine for the last 6 months. I'll take you all out one by one. I sit and watch and record what you do everyday to these kids up there and I know how you all work.
Let's play, because I really don't care. I will end up owning this town by the time you let me off of probation for something stupid. Maybe the Mayor needs to investigate the cases that are up there or even Brad Bailey. Maybe I should call in the Attorney General's Office to verify the charges. That's right I already called them. Hang on because I know for a fact that you are breaking the laws with Juveniles up there.
beenthere

Zanesville, OH

#95 Oct 3, 2010
I use to go to Lifeworks. Everytime I was ready to get off probation they would throw me in JDC for something stupid. Once I turned 18 they threw me out of Hardin County. I can not live with my parents or anything. I've been thrown on the floor and handcuffed. Of course the Court Appointed Attorney(which was schimmer) told the judge that I took the plea. I didn't even hear about any of this until we were in front of Judge Rapp. Then he had the nerve to throw me out of hardin county until I was 21. When my parents asked how he could do this, He said " because he is the judge and he can do whatever he wants" WTF
I hope that you can fight the system here in Hardin County. Once you become part of the system you will never get out. They do make the rules up as they go. Plus, at the sametime if you think that when the judge sentence's you that's it. Not true. They keep adding thing's. As far as you and your parents getting anything on how to get you off papers, you won't see it. Until you have it in writing what you need to do to get off probation then you will stay there. I have been on probation since the age of 13 and have never known exactly what I needed to do to get off. That's right. At the age of 18 I was thrown out of Hardin County. From what I have experienced within the Juvenile System it is a joke. It doesn't matter if you are the most respectful person there or not, they will find something wrong with you. Good Luck.
beenthere

Zanesville, OH

#96 Oct 13, 2010
Just heard that some kid actually walked out of lifeworks on Friday that was suppose to go to JDC. What does that tell you guys? That's where all of the PO's are for your kids. He's on the run along with 8 other kids that go there.
I know that the PO's up there lie about everything.
They lied to my mother every chance they got. Never once gave her anything to say what it would take for her to get me out of there. They just keep making up stupid excuses.
I actually hope that some parent takes them down. I know a kid up there right now that doesn't deserve to be in the system. Of course, he has passed his drug tests and because he did what he was told by his attorney is now caught up in the system. Of course all this kid's fines are paid, but the system is still fucking him over.
jerk off

Columbus, OH

#97 Oct 14, 2010
Maybe the PO's were actually working while he took off HMMMM work/ what a concept!!!!- it is the douche bags problem that he took off-looks like someone will be in the system longer and everyone knows this kid is being hid by the parents....ERRRRR DUH. Losers who bitch cause you have nothing else going on in your life!!!!!!!!!!
duh

United States

#98 Oct 14, 2010
I wish those kids at lifeorks were punished more; they should spend more time in jail. Six months minimum; some should sit until they are eighteen. Kids are reeking havoc in this town in my neighborhood; and there mommas dadas teach them to act the ay they do'. They are doing something right in hardin county; I hear god things about all the judges; cops; po's;yo complaints are getting you nowhere'. Us working class folks no we set the example for our kids and teach them right. not sitting around eating; drinking; and doing drugs.
unbelievable

Zanesville, OH

#99 Oct 15, 2010
duh wrote:
I wish those kids at lifeorks were punished more; they should spend more time in jail. Six months minimum; some should sit until they are eighteen. Kids are reeking havoc in this town in my neighborhood; and there mommas dadas teach them to act the ay they do'. They are doing something right in hardin county; I hear god things about all the judges; cops; po's;yo complaints are getting you nowhere'. Us working class folks no we set the example for our kids and teach them right. not sitting around eating; drinking; and doing drugs.
Okay, you don't even make since. You don't live in Kentucky. "Us working class folks." Please. These kids are punished more than the drug dealer that sold them the drugs. They get anywhere from 30 to 45 days in JDC, multiple years probation, 100 hours community service, a 100 fine and court cost. One kids stated that they have been up there since the age of 13.
I personally feel a kid that young to get thrown in JDC is scary enough not to make them want to go back. If they do go back for the second time, take them and let them spend a day in Prison. Marion or Lima. Both close enough and scary enough to straighten these kids up. We all know that the rehabilitation that they are getting up at lifeworks is helping.
unbelievable

Zanesville, OH

#100 Oct 15, 2010
oops, that should of said We all know the rehabilitation that they are getting up at lifeworks isn't helping.
wtf

Zanesville, OH

#101 Oct 15, 2010
Glad to see wrote:
I am glad reading that others think Shelly Miller needs replaced. Such an arrogant woman. I don't think her veins have blood in them. Just ice.
Yes, they did finally replace her and she is telling everyone that she got laid off. Replaced her with Krystal. Thank you whoever made that decision. Give her more power. She's just as bad as Shelly. They need to do a major overhaul within the Juvenile System. Judge, PA, and PO's. These people are only out to get money. They don't rehabilitate any of these kids.
Seriously

Zanesville, OH

#102 Oct 15, 2010
You really want me to tell you how bad these PO's are up there. My child got taken to JDC. Just yesterday was put on 3 med's. According to the PO my child would get better treatment down there then they would get at home. Who are they to judge me? I am actually a parent that cares about my child and I know how my child is when they are sick or in pain. I was informed that I could call and check on my child, but guess what when I called I was informed that everything seemed to be okay. Does anyone as a parent believe that? I'm scared to death. When my child needs me then I want them here with me. So I personally know they are okay. I don't just want some person answering a phone saying yea I think everything is okay. Just proved to me how much the Juvenile system here in Hardin County cares about these kids. Anything happens to my child and my child has any kind of reaction to the med's then I will personally hold these people responsible. I'm sure nobody is checking every hour to make sure my child is okay.
As a parent I would be checking just because I actually care about my child.

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