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Shady Amiga company: naming rights for Kent event center

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Sarah Miller

Helsingborg, Sweden

#1 Apr 19, 2007
In recent news, the Kent city officials announced that the proposed Kent event center has a new sponsor: A NY-based company called "Amiga".

See here:
http://tinyurl.com/2l4jge

Amiga company website:
http://www.amiga.com

Since I have never heard of this company before, I did some research about them using google. The results are alarming.
I wish the city officials had done the same before coming to a multi-million dollar agreement with Amiga!

They seem to have a history of failures and scamming. The only real achievement they made during the past 5 years was many fluffed up announcements that never became reality.
Their only current products are a few mobile games which they licensed from other developers. And this company calls themself the "the world's premier provider of multi-media enabling technologies". This is complete and utter fluff, but our city officials seem to have been fooled by it.

There are employees who are haven't been paid and who are still waiting for their wages despite court orders! Then they scammed hundreds of customers with vouchers for something they never delivered. By doing this, the company stayed alive and kept themself from going bancrupt 3 years ago. This information is everywhere on the internet. It is public information.

While I doubt that our city officials will revert their decision, at least I hope that a local newspaper will do some investigation on this topic.

What is your opinion on this? Does our city really need such a shady company as a sponsor?
John Brownwood

United States

#2 Apr 19, 2007
Thank you for telling us, Sarah. It's a shame that our local newspapers only report the fluff from the official company press releases. They should do some more investigation what it really means.

I have heard about the plans for the Kent event center and I wish our city officials would choose their investors very wisely.

In this case I can only shake my head. I have searched on google and can confirm that some of your allegations are justified.
Amiga has changed their company name very often in the past, maybe to get rid of claims from their creditors or court rulings.

But do they have anything to do with the Amiga homecomputer company? My son once had an Amiga computer when he was still young and enjoyed playing games.
Thats where I know the name from.

But most certainly they are not the world's premier provider of multi-media enabling technologies as they claim to be. This is a lie.

Do you know if any newspaper is investigating this story and the background of this company?
Omar Khayyam Ravenhurst

Borås, Sweden

#3 Apr 19, 2007
John, the current Amiga Inc. does in some sense have something to do with the Amiga homecomputer.

A VERY brief history follows:
The Amiga was originally sold by Commodore International (after having aquired the Amiga Corporation that originally developed it in the early 80's). When Commodore folded in the early 90's, the Amiga rights and assets were bought by Escom, who went bust shortly thereafter. The next Amiga owner was to be Gateway Computers. When they closed down their Amiga division, the IP rights were sold/licensed to startup company "Amino" which was later renamed Amiga Inc.

Fast forward a couple of years, and the Amiga Inc chaps find themselves in financial problems, with several legal rulings against them.
Cue the alleged "shell game" where Amiga sells off its assets and rights, in a few consecutive transactions, to a company called KMOS.
The old Amiga Inc, now having no assets to speak of and knee-deep in debt, then closes its doors for good. At the same time, KMOS gets renamed to...wait for it...."Amiga Inc." Ta-daa!
Same name, same assets, pretty much the same people running it, but apparently without debt.
Of course, the "shell-game" aspect is pure speculation, and all references to corporate dealings in the above paragraph are my own interpretations based on public information...

For refernces, Wikipedia's pretty much got most of the Amiga history:

Amiga: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga
Commodore: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_Intern...
Escom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escom
Gateway (with a brief mention of the Amiga): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gateway_Computer...
Amiga Inc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga%2C_Inc .

Finally, the Internet Archive has the various incarnations of the current (both pre- and post-KMOS) Amiga webpage:
http://web.archive.org/web/ */http://www.amiga.com
And also, Gateway's Amiga division can be found at the following Internet Archive destination (prior to the Amino/Amiga Inc deal):
http://web.archive.org/web/ */http://www.amiga.de

Pretty much the cliffnotes to the Amiga history, but hopefully it will, in a roundabout way, answer your question.
George

United States

#4 Apr 19, 2007
I grew up in Seattle and was a huge fan of the Thunderbirds ever since. I read about the sponsorship by Amiga on the Thunderbirds fan site.
I don’t really mind about any company sponsoring our team or the planned even center. However, I didn’t know this also includes the naming rights!

Who in their right mind would call an event center “AMIGA”? I cannot imagine a name that is tackier. For f*cks sake, we are not a Mexican whorehouse or taco shop; it’s supposed to be an event center!

So WHO got this idea to deal with that shady AMIGA company?
These reports about scamming and company shell games make me puke. It seems we are again the laughing stock of Seattle.

And do they have enough funds to pay for the naming rights? It doesn't seem so.
Mary

Saint Paul, MN

#5 Apr 19, 2007
The following is an email I sent to mayor Cooke on Wednesday:

---***---

Honorable Mayor Cooke,

I hope you will forgive the intrusion, but I am very concerned about these
recent news items apparently released by Natalie Quick and Sarah Haeger, of
The Fearey Group, for the City of Kent:

"City of Kent Sells Multi-Million Dollar Naming Rights for Proposed Events
Center to Global Tech Company Amiga"

http://www.seattle-thunderbirds.com/news/news...

http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/rele...

http://www.amiga.com/news/...

etc.

Being somewhat familiar with the numerous companies named "Amiga", and with
some of Bill McEwen's previous related announcements and activities, I would
like to take this opportunity to share my thoughts about this, hoping that
these may help you. I have been using and loving Amiga computers since 1985.
Commodore-Amiga went bankrupt in 1993, and everything that happened after
that felt like unsuccessful attempts to exploit something that is dead. Mr
McEwen joined one of the companies that bought rights to the Amiga trademark
only in about 1999, and he never did anything good for Amiga.

I could make this brief, by saying that in my opinion Mr McEwen is a "con
man" and a "scam artist", who is now risking to dishonor your community even
more than he has already done so far. That is the only international thing
he seems to be good at, in my own and personal opinion. But it is my word
only. My advice is that whatever you do, you should always consider only
facts you are able to verify, and not words, because he is an immensely
gifted and convincing speaker. He could not only sell ice cubes to eskimos,
but he could do so without knowing himself what an ice cube is.

Some examples. Your press release includes untrue (my opinion) statements
such as "The Amiga Center at Kent will bring tens of thousands of people to
the city for events such as Amiga's international developer conferences,"
"Amiga produces and distributes technologies and applications for wired and
wireless devices - regardless of operating system or carrier - including
cell phones, digital TV, gaming devices, PDAs, smart phones, personal
computers, home servers, etc." and "Amiga was at the forefront of the tech
boom in America and today is the third most recognized brand in Europe."

There is an online community which is very critical about Amiga. It is
called Moo Bunny, and you may find it helpful in your background checks.
True to its mission, Moo Bunny will continue to analyze each one of Bill
McEwen's public steps until he remains active with anything that is related
to Amiga. For example, the following post answers some of the above:

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessag...

It says: "Business Week magazine doesn't list Amiga in the top 100 globally
( http://bwnt.businessweek.com/brand/2006/ ), so it's pretty certain they are
nowhere close to being number three in Europe. I guess Bill McEwen is
assuming people in Kent, Washington, know nothing about Amiga or Europe and
have no way of finding out."

I couldn't agree more. Expecting tens of thousands of people for
Amiga-related events is pure utopia. The last Amiga developer conference was
almost 20 years ago! The products which "Amiga produces and distributes" as
per your press release do not exist. If you find one, a single one, product,
whether it is for a cellphone or a server, or whatever, let me know, and I
will be happy to research it for you in more detail.

There are more posts that provide recent references to verifiable facts. For
example, you could read the list of 17 articles mentioned here:

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessag...

Thank you for considering these notes.

Yours truly,

Mary Roswell
Mary

Saint Paul, MN

#6 Apr 19, 2007
This is the e-mail I sent to mayor Cooke on Wednesday:

Honorable Mayor Cooke,

I hope you will forgive the intrusion, but I am very concerned about these
recent news items apparently released by Natalie Quick and Sarah Haeger, of
The Fearey Group, for the City of Kent:

"City of Kent Sells Multi-Million Dollar Naming Rights for Proposed Events
Center to Global Tech Company Amiga"

http://www.seattle-thunderbirds.com/news/news...

http://www.oursportscentral.com/services/rele...

http://www.amiga.com/news/...

etc.

Being somewhat familiar with the numerous companies named "Amiga", and with
some of Bill McEwen's previous related announcements and activities, I would
like to take this opportunity to share my thoughts about this, hoping that
these may help you. I have been using and loving Amiga computers since 1985.
Commodore-Amiga went bankrupt in 1993, and everything that happened after
that felt like unsuccessful attempts to exploit something that is dead. Mr
McEwen joined one of the companies that bought rights to the Amiga trademark
only in about 1999, and he never did anything good for Amiga.

I could make this brief, by saying that in my opinion Mr McEwen is a "con
man" and a "scam artist", who is now risking to dishonor your community even
more than he has already done so far. That is the only international thing
he seems to be good at, in my own and personal opinion. But it is my word
only. My advice is that whatever you do, you should always consider only
facts you are able to verify, and not words, because he is an immensely
gifted and convincing speaker. He could not only sell ice cubes to eskimos,
but he could do so without knowing himself what an ice cube is.

Some examples. Your press release includes untrue (my opinion) statements
such as "The Amiga Center at Kent will bring tens of thousands of people to
the city for events such as Amiga's international developer conferences,"
"Amiga produces and distributes technologies and applications for wired and
wireless devices - regardless of operating system or carrier - including
cell phones, digital TV, gaming devices, PDAs, smart phones, personal
computers, home servers, etc." and "Amiga was at the forefront of the tech
boom in America and today is the third most recognized brand in Europe."

There is an online community which is very critical about Amiga. It is
called Moo Bunny, and you may find it helpful in your background checks.
True to its mission, Moo Bunny will continue to analyze each one of Bill
McEwen's public steps until he remains active with anything that is related
to Amiga. For example, the following post answers some of the above:

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessag...

It says: "Business Week magazine doesn't list Amiga in the top 100 globally
( http://bwnt.businessweek.com/brand/2006/ ), so it's pretty certain they are
nowhere close to being number three in Europe. I guess Bill McEwen is
assuming people in Kent, Washington, know nothing about Amiga or Europe and
have no way of finding out."

I couldn't agree more. Expecting tens of thousands of people for
Amiga-related events is pure utopia. The last Amiga developer conference was
almost 20 years ago! The products which "Amiga produces and distributes" as
per your press release do not exist. If you find one, a single one, product,
whether it is for a cellphone or a server, or whatever, let me know, and I
will be happy to research it for you in more detail.

There are more posts that provide recent references to verifiable facts. For
example, you could read the list of 17 articles mentioned here:

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessag...

Thank you for considering these notes.

Yours truly,

Mary Roswell
It_Doesnnt_Matte r

Vancouver, Canada

#7 Apr 20, 2007
The people bringing this to your attention are agitators of the Amiga corporation.
They pretended to look this information up, as they already knew it anyhow.
http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessag is a message board filled with rude people spreading rumors and lies, 24/7.
Notice how one person was clumsey enough to double post, that person is well known and one of the most troublesome ones, as "she" is really in fact a "he" and is a stalker of 6 years at least.
All of these posts should be erased.
Kaos

Eersel, Netherlands

#8 Apr 20, 2007
It_Doesnnt_Matter wrote:
The people bringing this to your attention are agitators of the Amiga corporation.
They pretended to look this information up, as they already knew it anyhow.
http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessag is a message board filled with rude people spreading rumors and lies, 24/7.
Notice how one person was clumsey enough to double post, that person is well known and one of the most troublesome ones, as "she" is really in fact a "he" and is a stalker of 6 years at least.
All of these posts should be erased.
Hi Thierry,

Still defending Amiga Inc.?

* After all those years waiting for them to deliver functioning hardware for your lovely little toy OS?

* Or what about the 50 $ coupon scam?

* They do not honer warranty, do they?

* How many broken promisses did they make, two more weeks rings any bell?

* What about not paying employes?

Just to mention a few random things. Should I go on Thierry?

Oh wait you're that famous Troll (Atheist2) on MooBunny, banned on almost every Amiga related forum for being rude and obnoxious?

Oh well, nevermind then ;)

Whatch out people before you now he's gone rant about blue trolls, BBRV, OS4Emu, IBUM (IBM), crotchless underwear and other silly stuff ;)

Read all about this guy on Moobunny, you're friendly Amiga Forum...
It_Doesnt_Matter

Vancouver, Canada

#11 Apr 20, 2007
Thank you for your insight, adds more credibility to what I said.
BTW, stalkings on the rise I see, someone having gone and posted personal info about me.
Amigan

Youngsville, NC

#17 Apr 21, 2007
It_Doesnnt_Matter wrote:
The people bringing this to your attention are agitators of the Amiga corporation.
They pretended to look this information up, as they already knew it anyhow.
http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessag is a message board filled with rude people spreading rumors and lies, 24/7.
Notice how one person was clumsey enough to double post, that person is well known and one of the most troublesome ones, as "she" is really in fact a "he" and is a stalker of 6 years at least.
All of these posts should be erased.
Give it a rest "Athiest2".
How much does Amiga Inc pay you? Why don't they just pay the people they owe instead?

“?”

Since: Apr 07

?

#18 Apr 21, 2007
Several Failed Projects related to Amiga Inc:

1. Sharp Zaurus PDA: they plan to use Amiga DE on Zaurus, but Sharp cancelled the project. To use Amiga DE, users have to erase the ROM and this action nullified the product warranty.

2. Nokia MediaTerminal Set Top Box: cancelled.

3. Escena chipset for connecting PowerPC motherboard to classic Amiga: vaporware.

4. MAI Logic Articia chipset. This product is buggy and the only user is Eyetech for AmigaOne motherboard. Both MAI Logic and Eyetech went bankrupt. There is a lawsuit by US Department of Labour against MAI Logic. Most customers who bought buggy AmigaOne board are angry at Eyetech. Eyetech shipped certain AmigaOne without any sound chipset because they cannot figure out how to set up the BIOS.

5. IBM PDA based on PowerPC 405. After Amiga Inc ported AmigaOS to this board, the division was bought by AMCC and the project is cancelled.

Most owners of Amiga Inc either went bankrupt or had financial difficulty:
1. A: Amiga Inc. Because they did not pay the rent, they are evicted from their office at Snoqualmie, WA. Their office furniture, computers are auctioned by the landlord to pay the rent.
2. C: Commodore - bankrupt.
3. E: Escom - bankrupt.
4. G: Gateway - financial difficulty several years ago.
5. I: Itec: sold to a Polish company.
I: Invisible Hand (part of Kouri Capital)- also bankrupt.
6. K: Kouri Capital: bankrupt.

“!”

Since: Apr 07

!

#19 Apr 21, 2007
More information/facts about Amiga Inc (formerly KMOS, formerly Amino):

There are court orders against Amiga Inc and Mr Bill McEwen, but neither Amiga Inc and Mr Bill McEwen had paid their debts to:

1. Mr Matt Fontenot: former employee of Amiga Inc: unpaid salary: US$ 37 thousands.

2. Mr Bolton Peck: former employee of Amiga Inc: unpaid salary: US$ 85 thousands.

3. Shipment charge to various transportation companies.

Source: http://www.amiga.org
http://www.merlancia.us
Various court documents

There is another court order against Amiga Inc that Amiga Inc should port their Amiga DE / Amiga Anywhere Operating System to Genesi computer product, but Amiga Inc NEVER port their software to the product.

http://www.genesippc.com/

It's strange that Amiga DE/Amiga Anywhere product cannot run on their own hardware (Amiga One computer with AmigaOS Operating System). Amiga Anywhere does not support PowerPC based machines such as AmigaOne.

Gary Hare, the former director of Kmos / Amiga Inc who replaced Mr Bill McEwen is involved in "name card" prank. In 2005 there was lawsuits between Gary Hare and Amiga Inc.

Source: various court documents.

Dr Pentti Kouri the CEO of Amiga Inc since 2000 have bad reputations:
A. "Kouri Deal": a financial scandal with major banks in Finland.
B. Kouri Capital was declared bankrupt by Security Exchange Commision in May 2001. American Heritage Fund lost several hundred million dollar investment.
C. Kouri Exchange Theory is related to Asian Financial Crisis (1997-1998). Kouri is the partner of George Soros.

Source:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentti_Kouri
Security Exchange Commission.
Polish Stock Exchange.

Fleecy Moss, Amiga Inc Chief Technology Offcer (CTO) was talking about future concept of Amiga OS in AmigaWorld.net , when the company had secretly sold AmigaOS to Itec.

Source:
http://www.amigaworld.net
Darren

United States

#20 Apr 22, 2007
These details are in fact alarming. I hope the final contract with Amiga has not been signed yet, otherwise the city of Kent seems to be in trouble.
Massimiliano

Italy

#21 Apr 22, 2007
I am a long-term user of Amiga-computers, so I am very familiar with the company who calls themself "Amiga" today. I can attest the allegations that were made in this thread against Amiga.

The Amiga company that made a sponsoring deal with the city of Kent is well-known for their shady business pratices.

They don't have anything in common with the Amiga-brand by Commodore. The only thing they share is the name. They use this name to artificially drive up their value without having any profitable products.

They are certainly NOT the "world’s premier provider of multi-media enabling technologies" and certainly NOT "the third most recognized brand in Europe." as they say in the press release.
In both categories, they are not even among the top 100.

Kent's city officials seem to have believed in these lies.

Their so called "NY headquater" is only a mail-drop. Proof/photos are available on the internet.

Their only products are substandard mobile phone games (casino, roulette, poker, etc). All other projects of them (AmigaAnywhere and AmigaDE) were HUGE failures.

The Kent even center looks like a great idea, but with Amiga, they have selected the WORST sponsor one could imagine.
Greg

Sydney, Australia

#22 Apr 22, 2007
Things looked promising with Amiga in 2000. They announced some great products and made many promises. I was very interested in their Amiga Anywhere product. Unfortunately it was all very disappointing and a huge failure. Since 2001, they entered into a downward spiral. Today, their formerly good reputation from the Commodore-days (1985-1994) is completely ruined.

It's sad to see a city such as Kent falling for such a blatant scam.

I can see three reasons why the chose Amiga:
-their CEO being a resident of Kent
-the business relationship with the Thunderbirds
-McEwen's promise to move their mailbox /mail-drop from NY to Kent

Amiga's unexisting financial reliability and their shady business pratices were certainly never considered when the city council made their decision.
It_Doesnt_Matter

Vancouver, Canada

#23 Apr 22, 2007
The above people are posting under alias'. One and all are known trouble makers, continually interfering with Amiga's progress. They belong in jail for harassment.

They've also got the stalkers mentality and and ACT on it.

Some have threatened Amiga Inc. employees, and the writers of AmigaOS4.0 with death threats.

Check the commentaries of these low lifes on
http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/amiga/

Please note, they joined the forums mere hours ago, to look "legitimate".

As you can see the guys in posts #8 and #17 have already started on their religious crusade to attack me.

In fact, like I said, right after I posted here, my name and address mysteriously appeared on the moobuuny message board....

What's that supposed to mean???
Dammy

Miami, FL

#24 Apr 22, 2007
It_Doesnt_Matter wrote:
The above people are posting under alias'.
Yet another prime example of your double standards, Thiery, ahh, Athiest2, ahh It_Doesn't_Matter. Your using an obvious alias yet your damning others for it? Why don't you go back to posting on Usenet about crotchless panties. Or better yet, go get a job. Being in your 40s, you should be able to hold on to some type of job by now.

Dammy
http://www.aros.org
It_Doesnt_Matter

Vancouver, Canada

#29 Apr 22, 2007
Dammy, you're in here? I should have known.

I used "It_Doesn't_Matter" PRECISELY because it DOES NOT MATTER who I am, except for it to be known that you guys are inciting trouble, and thank goodness that in the EU, soon there would/will be a law that would muzzle you, or throw you in jail if you continued such activity from there. Of course you'd just go to using anonymous proxies.

You guys are stalkers.
John

Englewood, CO

#30 Apr 23, 2007
> a message board filled with rude people spreading rumors and lies, 24/7

These court papers are neither rumors nor lies:

http://www.merlancia.us/amigabk/replyresponse...

And more at:

http://www.merlancia.us/amigaauction/
http://www.merlancia.us/amiga-hare/
http://www.merlancia.us/amigabk/

BTW, nice car:

http://www.merlancia.us/amigaauction/billsnew...

> The above people are posting under alias

I think the forum is here for exactly this reason, to provide valuable, if perhaps a bit chaotic, input to a more formal and refined system. I trust the city of Kent and its people and press and police to be able to make their own research and decisions based on what we write, also with the freedom to express our personal opinions with the thin protection of an alias.
Gary

Tokyo, Japan

#31 Apr 23, 2007
The management of the Amiga brand was contentious even before Commodore went bankrupt. In the years since, with the brand changing hands several times and the technology mainly lying dormant, the hardcore fans and the would-be whistleblowers have only gotten more adversarial. Discussions on computer forums illustrate this, and we can see some of the fallout here.

I think the main point issue, as far as the Kent arena naming rights are concerned, is whether Amiga, Inc. is a trustworthy partner for the city. I don't think there can be any conclusion other than the company is not trustworthy.(Yes, I'm on the side of the whistleblowers.)

Doesn't anyone who reads the company's self-description as "the world's premier provider of multimedia enabling technologies" immediately wonder what technologies are being referred to, what could possibly be the basis for such a claim? Is there any technology that anyone can name that would put Amiga, Inc. among the world's top companies in the field? I'm afraid the only answer is that the statement is a complete fabrication by the current owners of the Amiga IP trying to cash in on whatever cachet the brand might have left from the early days of personal computing.

As referred to in earlier posts, the Kent city officials should be aware of the corporate asset transfers the company has undertaken in the past to avoid payment of debts. These debts, incurred by the former Amiga, Inc. of Washington state (and by Bill McEwen personally), include unpaid wages to employees (payment mandated by the court, but not yet made), unpaid office rent, Washington state taxes, and various fees to other companies. The company also was successfully sued for failure to abide by a agreement to port its software to the product of another company, though it has yet to comply. These are all a matter of public record.

To avoid these obligations, the company sold its assets to KMOS LLC, which was owned by the same parties that owned Amiga, Inc., which then renamed itself Amiga, Inc. Whether through the success of these steps or the lack of means to extract proper payment, Amiga, Inc. has slipped out from under its past obligations. In fact, Amiga, Inc. CEO Bill McEwen himself states that the related suits were brought against the Amiga, Inc. of Washington state, not the (current) Amiga, Inc. of Deleware (the former KMOS), so are apparently not a matter of concern.

I hope the people of Kent and of Washington state will take the trouble to find out the facts about Bill McEwen and Amiga, Inc. before committing themselves to a course that could have unfortunate consequences.

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