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Concerned

Harrisonburg, VA

#1 Dec 22, 2010
It seems to me that there are honestly some reasons to be concerned about SV students' educations. While there may be a select few that are adequate, it is overwhelming how many are plain terrible. So much gossip and scandalous nonsense goes on, you'd think they were the highschoolers. Does anyone agree? Disagree? Seeing something I am not? If so, please enlighten me. I would LOVE to be proven wrong.
You are right

Huntington, WV

#2 Dec 22, 2010
Blame the teachers' union for keeping these terrible teachers in their positions. You can't afford a good education around here cause the teachers suck. SV is one of the worst schools for their quality of education, and wayne is one of the worst in the state. They may have given out millions in scholarships, but they were for in-state universities and colleges. Blame the govt, blame the unions, the only things the teachers actually care about is, no drug tests and no making them work more than what they already do. Forget the tutoring of children in your class, forget the fact our nation is collapsing because 3rd world countries have a higher quality of education. No wonder our govt doesn't know what to do, even the ivy league educated got a crappy education.
Former SV student

Wexford, PA

#3 Dec 22, 2010
I think you're both full of it. Don't blame the teachers for your kids laziness. I attended SV and had a lot of wonderful teachers that genuinely LOVED teaching. Do you realize that the students pretty much pick their teachers/schedules? The quality of your child's education depends mainly on your CHILD. So maybe you should have a talk with them instead of complaining about the teachers. Granted there are some BS teachers there, but you'll have that anywhere you go. And as for scholarships, SV gets more and more money every year granted to them from scholarships, and quite a few are for out of state colleges. Yes, most of them are in-state, but you have to take into consideration that MARSHALL is like 15 minutes away. And there are PLENTY of great in state colleges here in West Virginia. Also, WV has a lower out of state tuition than most other surrounding state's in state tuition! So naturally more kids are going to pick the cheaper college.
Current SVHS student

United States

#4 Dec 23, 2010
The teachers do act like they are high schoolers. Texting students. Getting in all of the Drama. Asking students for the latest gossip. a lot of the teachers there need a reality check. They need to realize that they arent teenagers anymore and they need to do their job by teaching, thats my opinion!
SvhsStuden

Cochranton, PA

#5 Dec 23, 2010
Mrs. Davis is a saint!
svhsclassof12

Youngstown, OH

#6 Dec 23, 2010
Yes most teachers get the blame put on them. They do act like high schoolers though. Just because it makes them more popular with students. Which is why I try and keep most of my classes at the votec. We have the best votec in the state with teachers who care. But most of kids are lazy so sometimes it's not the teacher. But in all honesty brian Davis & Karen Davis are the only teachers that take the time and teach their students.
Uhhh and

United States

#7 Dec 23, 2010
Laurel Ferguson, Pamela Perdue, Sara Smith, and Susan Wilburn are really good teachers also.
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SvhsStudent

Cochranton, PA

#9 Dec 24, 2010
I've always liked Mr. Hardwick as well, such a funny guy.
No prob

Huntington, WV

#10 Dec 24, 2010
Former SV student wrote:
I think you're both full of it. Don't blame the teachers for your kids laziness. I attended SV and had a lot of wonderful teachers that genuinely LOVED teaching. Do you realize that the students pretty much pick their teachers/schedules? The quality of your child's education depends mainly on your CHILD. So maybe you should have a talk with them instead of complaining about the teachers. Granted there are some BS teachers there, but you'll have that anywhere you go.
wow, and I thought guidance counselors were supposed to help the kids pick their classes. And the BS teachers are the ones we are talking about honey. Unfortunately when the majority rule, no one mentions the few that are good. What is really bad is that you think the quality of the students' education relies on them. They don't supply the education, sweety. We pay taxes for the teachers to supply it, the BOE to supply it, and the counselors to guide. The kids are with the teachers and coaches more than they are at home and everyone knows that the way the children are treated in school determine how they do in school. You don't see teachers making any special treatment to the kids that lack in those classes they teach, nor do you see them treat kids fairly. I know that for a fact. I have a kid getting into trouble and the school protected the child and didn't even let me know how bad the child had gotten until the kid learned to take advantage of the school. I didnt teach my child that, nor did I allow for the kid to skip classes, not turn in assignments or do drugs in the bathroom. So yeah, SV is a shit school. The only ones that are fortunate are the ones with family members that are employed by the BOE and the money to buy off whomever they can. If the parents had any say, tenure and teachers' unions would not exist and we wouldn't be talking about this crap right now.
Former SV student

Wexford, PA

#11 Dec 24, 2010
No prob wrote:
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wow, and I thought guidance counselors were supposed to help the kids pick their classes. And the BS teachers are the ones we are talking about honey. Unfortunately when the majority rule, no one mentions the few that are good. What is really bad is that you think the quality of the students' education relies on them. They don't supply the education, sweety. We pay taxes for the teachers to supply it, the BOE to supply it, and the counselors to guide. The kids are with the teachers and coaches more than they are at home and everyone knows that the way the children are treated in school determine how they do in school. You don't see teachers making any special treatment to the kids that lack in those classes they teach, nor do you see them treat kids fairly. I know that for a fact. I have a kid getting into trouble and the school protected the child and didn't even let me know how bad the child had gotten until the kid learned to take advantage of the school. I didnt teach my child that, nor did I allow for the kid to skip classes, not turn in assignments or do drugs in the bathroom. So yeah, SV is a shit school. The only ones that are fortunate are the ones with family members that are employed by the BOE and the money to buy off whomever they can. If the parents had any say, tenure and teachers' unions would not exist and we wouldn't be talking about this crap right now.
First of all, sweetie, you don't need to talk to me like a damn 5 year old. The guidance counselors do pick the classes, but the students have a right to change them. The guidance couselors are there to GUIDE, not control. And I never said the students supply the education, but they are responsible for doing their work. Being lazy and not doing their work is what gets them bad grades. Teachers aren't responsible for making your kid go to class either. That's the kids fault too. No one made him skip class. They didn't make him do drugs either, did they? No. So you can't blame them for that either. All of these problems are a result of your SONS actions. Not the teachers. You wouldn't know if a teacher made an effort to help your kid in class, because he was never there to begin with. And in case you didn't know, they mark all absences on the report cards that are given out every 6 or 9 weeks, whatever it is. And if you don't know that your child gets a report card, then maybe you should be paying a little more attention as a parent. I don't have any connections with the BOE and I turned out just fine from Spring Valley. However, my parents were always on top of my grades, my attendance, and the courses that I took, even though I graduated with very high honors. Now I'm in college and have to rely on myself to stay on top of things, which I handle very well. So yeah, a lot of it is the responsibility of the child, honey.
a kid from valley.

United States

#12 Dec 24, 2010
Former SV student wrote:
<quoted text>First of all, sweetie, you don't need to talk to me like a damn 5 year old. The guidance counselors do pick the classes, but the students have a right to change them. The guidance couselors are there to GUIDE, not control. And I never said the students supply the education, but they are responsible for doing their work. Being lazy and not doing their work is what gets them bad grades. Teachers aren't responsible for making your kid go to class either. That's the kids fault too. No one made him skip class. They didn't make him do drugs either, did they? No. So you can't blame them for that either. All of these problems are a result of your SONS actions. Not the teachers. You wouldn't know if a teacher made an effort to help your kid in class, because he was never there to begin with. And in case you didn't know, they mark all absences on the report cards that are given out every 6 or 9 weeks, whatever it is. And if you don't know that your child gets a report card, then maybe you should be paying a little more attention as a parent. I don't have any connections with the BOE and I turned out just fine from Spring Valley. However, my parents were always on top of my grades, my attendance, and the courses that I took, even though I graduated with very high honors. Now I'm in college and have to rely on myself to stay on top of things, which I handle very well. So yeah, a lot of it is the responsibility of the child, honey.
I completely agree with you 1000000%. I am currently a senior at valley and I have only had a select few teachers that I haven't liked. And yes you HAVE to be in class and do your own work to pass and make good grades. Whenever you skip a class everyday you just piss your teacher off so why should they help someone out more than the other kids just because he sometimes feels like coming to class and sometimes wants to skip and do drugs in the bathroom? That's not fair to the other students that attend class everyday and work hard for their grade. It's not the teachers. It's the kid.
Wowww

Huntington, WV

#13 Dec 25, 2010
You guys are dumbasses and I guess I do have to speak to you like a 5 yr old. I guess you guys are products of those great teachers you are talking about. Let me speak more on your level. My child is one of the kids that is getting what they want. I am complaining about how the school has allowed my child to do this stuff and it has ruined him, I am complaining about how the teachers AREN'T doing their job and letting him get by with this stuff while other kids are suffering and trying to do their best and aren't given the help they need. And yes, the teachers, etc., are liable for numerous things that they can be sued for. But because you are not a "big person" yet, with children's best interests to worry about, you don't understand WHAT that responsibility is, do you? A kid skipping school may be the fault of the kid, but it is the fault of the school for not informing the parent. As a caring teacher, I would also think that it wouldn't take 6 wks for the parent to know what the child didn't do in class. But why should they, they have tenure!!!! Productivity doesn't matter to them. And with all the complaining about how they would have to work 40 hr a week jobs ALL YEAR, or make up for that summer time by putting in extra time to tutor their students, why should I think these teachers care? They aren't complaining about the state standards of education, they are complaining about not having to take drug tests and work more hours. Wow, go back to a school, a different school, so you can learn reading comprehension, SWEETIE.
By the way, the teachers, the board, the school, are the ones responsible for the quality of education provided - which was the topic of this discussion. I don't really think you understand what us big people are talking about. So all you are doing is proving us right with your stupid excuses. One thing you will learn in life, HONEY, excuses admit guilt. No one wants to hear excuses and you are blaming kids based on opinion, not fact. I am stating facts. I hope you aren't going to be a teacher when you grow up........
Wowww

Huntington, WV

#14 Dec 25, 2010
By the way, another little bit of proof: look at the stats for SV. Look at the stats for the state. Look at the stats for the country. If you can understand what I mean by these statements, you can no longer blame the kids for the education they are receiving. Right now, the people going to SV are the dumbest people in the country. That is, if you check the stats. Oh, by the way, do you know why the Promise scholarship is having a hard time with funding? Because the standards for the state was lowered in attempt to increase the stats, so now every dumbass that does not deserve a scholarship is receiving one. That may be good because more kids are going to college, but those kids are going to instate colleges, which doesn't say much. And the crappy little amount given in the Promise isn't enough to pay for tuition at an out of state university, so the money is merely funneled back into the state, while our kids remain the statistically labeled "dumbest kids of America". That includes private schools as well. So even the rich are unable to obtain the quality of education that others can get in a third world country. Our nation is so stupid, that we have discontinued participating in the ranking of math and science. See if your educated ass can find that information so you can quit taking up for the educational system that has failed our county, our state and our nation.
Wowww

Huntington, WV

#15 Dec 25, 2010
Oh, and one more thing to add.....I spoke about the crappy teachers, the majority - as I mentioned in my first post. You can have a few good teachers, but the ones that screw you up that are in the core classes are the ones that SCREW YOU UP overall. But for now, saying you graduated with very high honors (and I bet you go to MU too now, don't you) doesn't say anything to me. My kid has nearly a 4.0. Its in the real world, or a real university that you will be put to the test. Right now, unless you are going to a good school far from here, you don't even have a clue how dumb you are.
Former SV student

Wexford, PA

#16 Dec 25, 2010
Damn, Iíd do drugs too if you were my mom. And as a matter of fact, I am a product of those great teachers I mentioned, because I actually scheduled for those great teachers like a good student should. I took the initiative to better myself instead of being a lazy low life that just wanted to get by with the least amount of effort possible. SCHOOL didnít ruin your child. He made those choices all on his own so the only person you can blame is him. Stop being a naive parent and face reality. Kids need guidance, and their biggest influence is their parents. Yes, the teachers, etc. play a role in that but the main job is the parents. These SV teachers didnít raise your child. You did. So youíre next in line for the blame SWEETHEART. And as a matter of fact I donít go to Marshall. I go to WVU bitch. So that means Iím all on my own. My parents donít pay a penny for my school, because they taught me RESPONSIBILITY (unlike someone else on this forum...) and I worked hard enough to get scholarships to cover it all. I have only myself to rely on. I went to WVU for a reason: so I could become more independent and get away from all the bullshit of Huntington. I wanted to go to a REAL college instead of SV University. Donít tell me I donít know what responsibility is when your kid is skipping class and doing drugs in the bathroom when he actually comes to school. That sounds like parent of the year to me. The school doesnít inform the parents until itís posted on report cards though, I will give you that. However, they used to have a system that would call the house every time a child was absent, but I donít know what happened to that. And how can you say that productivity doesnít matter to the teachers whenever thatís what they get evaluated on? Yeah, youíre dumb. And who in their right mind would complain to get more hours? Thatís what I thought. By the way, my argument was COMPLETELY on topic. Youíre the one that had to start running your mouth about every single little thing from the state to your dumbass kid doing drugs. I guarantee you I can score higher on any test than you would ever dream of. I was never making excuses. I was simply just telling you what really goes on in that school, that you never went to so you would know absolutely nothing about. Obviously Iím making the correct argument, considering someone that goes to valley (and I mean actually attends school, not someone that just goes to do drugs like your son) agrees with me. By the way, I donít think that saying ďthe people going to SV are the dumbest people on the countryĒ is a fact. Just pointing that out, since you seem to think that everything you blurt out is a fact. YOU ARE WRONG. Obviously SV people arenít the dumbest in the country. Thatís absurd. And I think that itís a good thing that more kids are receiving scholarships so they can go to college. Youíre a dumbass for thinking any different! Most of those kids are going to end up going to Marshall regardless, if they go at all. Marshall is a great school and has insanely lower tuition than most in the state. Plus the kids here wouldnít have to pay for housing, which I can tell you from experience is more expensive than tuition! Whatís wrong with kids going to colleges in our state? Nothing! Itís a great thing! It betters the state! And for your information, there really are a lot of great teachers at SV. Obviously there are a few not so great ones, but like I said, youíll have that ANYWHERE you go.
Former SV student

Wexford, PA

#17 Dec 25, 2010
All of the wonderful teachers I had were in the core classes too, because I was a good, RESPONSIBLE student that didnít take bullshit classes to be able to pass. Every decision I made concerning my schedule and classes in high school, I made in order to better myself. Iím doing very well in college too, so Iíd appreciate it if you would stop talking shit and understand that something good can actually come out of SV, it just all depends on the kid. If you made a 4.0 all through high school AND college (a real college, away from home with total independence) then you can try to argue with me. But until then, YOUíRE the dumbass. HUN :)
Oh, and how would going to Marshall make me a dumbass anyway? Do you realize that they do have really good programs and very good things have come from Marshall? Itís no Harvard, but itís not the worst either. And by the way, how would your son have a 4.0 if he never goes to class and never turns in assignments? Oh thatís right, he wouldnít. Dumbass.
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i am a former student too

Harrisonburg, VA

#20 Dec 26, 2010
Former SV student wrote:
Damn, Iíd do drugs too if you were my mom. And as a matter of fact, I am a product of those great teachers I mentioned, because I actually scheduled for those great teachers like a good student should. I took the initiative to better myself instead of being a lazy low life that just wanted to get by with the least amount of effort possible. SCHOOL didnít ruin your child. He made those choices all on his own so the only person you can blame is him. Stop being a naive parent and face reality. Kids need guidance, and their biggest influence is their parents. Yes, the teachers, etc. play a role in that but the main job is the parents. These SV teachers didnít raise your child. You did. So youíre next in line for the blame SWEETHEART. And as a matter of fact I donít go to Marshall. I go to WVU bitch. So that means Iím all on my own. My parents donít pay a penny for my school, because they taught me RESPONSIBILITY (unlike someone else on this forum...) and I worked hard enough to get scholarships to cover it all. I have only myself to rely on. I went to WVU for a reason: so I could become more independent and get away from all the bullshit of Huntington. I wanted to go to a REAL college instead of SV University. Donít tell me I donít know what responsibility is when your kid is skipping class and doing drugs in the bathroom when he actually comes to school. That sounds like parent of the year to me. The school doesnít inform the parents until itís posted on report cards though, I will give you that. However, they used to have a system that would call the house every time a child was absent, but I donít know what happened to that. And how can you say that productivity doesnít matter to the teachers whenever thatís what they get evaluated on? Yeah, youíre dumb. And who in their right mind would complain to get more hours? Thatís what I thought. By the way, my argument was COMPLETELY on topic. Youíre the one that had to start running your mouth about every single little thing from the state to your dumbass kid doing drugs. I guarantee you I can score higher on any test than you would ever dream of. I was never making excuses. I was simply just telling you what really goes on in that school, that you never went to so you would know absolutely nothing about. Obviously Iím making the correct argument, considering someone that goes to valley (and I mean actually attends school, not someone that just goes to do drugs like your son) agrees with me. By the way, I donít think that saying ďthe people going to SV are the dumbest people on the countryĒ is a fact. Just pointing that out, since you seem to think that everything you blurt out is a fact. YOU ARE WRONG. Obviously SV people arenít the dumbest in the country. Thatís absurd. And I think that itís a good thing that more kids are receiving scholarships so they can go to college. Youíre a dumbass for thinking any different! Most of those kids are going to end up going to Marshall regardless, if they go at all. Marshall is a great school and has insanely lower tuition than most in the state. Plus the kids here wouldnít have to pay for housing, which I can tell you from experience is more expensive than tuition! Whatís wrong with kids going to colleges in our state? Nothing! Itís a great thing! It betters the state! And for your information, there really are a lot of great teachers at SV. Obviously there are a few not so great ones, but like I said, youíll have that ANYWHERE you go.
Take some advice and shut the fuck up. no one wants to read your bullshit year-long posts full of senseless bragging and insults you are not qualified to make. could you please tell us one more time how responsible and good you are and how your parents raised you right? please, because i didn't quite catch it the first 492837498345 times you told us.

STFU.
tony

Huntington, WV

#21 Dec 26, 2010
its the obama administration they be holdin us white folks down. how many of you dumb bacward ass welfare crack heads voted for that half breed anyway? what ???? you are to ashamed to admit it arent you.
Former SV student

Butler, PA

#22 Dec 26, 2010
i am a former student too wrote:
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Take some advice and shut the fuck up. no one wants to read your bullshit year-long posts full of senseless bragging and insults you are not qualified to make. could you please tell us one more time how responsible and good you are and how your parents raised you right? please, because i didn't quite catch it the first 492837498345 times you told us.
STFU.
First of all dumbass, no one said that. Second, if you don't want to read my post, then don't! It's that simple. Third, I'm damn well qualified to make whatever insults I please, considering I actually know what I'm talking about and my argument is ON TOPIC, unlike yours. What you just said is completely irrelevant and and has NOTHING to do with what we're talking about. So when you're ready to bring something that makes sense then you can waste my time. But for now, no one needs you. Go away.

Since: Dec 10

United States

#23 Dec 26, 2010
Susan Wilburn taught me at Buffalo. She is a top notch teacher!

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