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Any opions on the Union Workers (USWA) 7686 NORANDA

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Guest 1225

Platte City, MO

#1 Aug 7, 2007
Going through a contract right now. It has always been take, take from us. We work hard for our money with no consideration from the company other than try to take any kind of benefits or money matters that they can.The union has been a great help to all workers, union or not. If U don't believe it, Do some research on the internet and You may change your negative thinking about us. If You have any.
fred flinstone

Kansas City, MO

#2 Aug 7, 2007
Sorry, but I can NOT agree with you. I do believe that there use to be good unions and still might be a few but I have been on both sides of the fence. I am non union now and have every benefit. I make good money, I get paid on my performance, I have 401K, profit sharing, life ins. 4 times my yearly salary, health ins., scholarship program for my whole family, company picnic at Six Flags, Christmas party at Gold Strike. Boy we are struggling with out a union. My company has been in business since 1969 and has NEVER laid a soul off. When the market is slow we do lose production pay, but we are still able to work and get paid. Dan DaMicco is our CEO and has every works best interest in mind. NO UNION DUES! UNION reps are the only ones benefiting from them anyway. What do they pay to picket? I know Noranda Aluminum pays $10.00. WOW what a benefit that is.....
Unions Kill Business

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Aug 7, 2007
Ever wonder where inflation and Chinese and Mexican factories come from? Ask your freakin union rep!

Unions nearly killed Kennett once, and they control every politician they can. I say find a job you love with a fair boss and you'll go far together. Join a Union and you'll do great for a couple of years until the union breaks your boss, the factory closes and you're out on the street with all the other union guys!
could of been a yaya

Platte City, MO

#4 Aug 7, 2007
Non Union Steel Worker
Kennett, MO Reply
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Sorry, but I can NOT agree with you. I do believe that there use to be good unions and still might be a few but I have been on both sides of the fence. I am non union now and have every benefit. I make good money, I get paid on my performance, I have 401K, profit sharing, life ins. 4 times my yearly salary, health ins., scholarship program for my whole family, company picnic at Six Flags, Christmas party at Gold Strike. Boy we are struggling with out a union. My company has been in business since 1969 and has NEVER laid a soul off. When the market is slow we do lose production pay, but we are still able to work and get paid. Dan DaMicco is our CEO and has every works best interest in mind. NO UNION DUES! UNION reps are the only ones benefiting from them anyway. What do they pay to picket? I know Noranda Aluminum pays $10.00. WOW what a benefit that is.....

U don't know much about Noranda,$10.00 not true. Double that...
fred flinstone

Kansas City, MO

#5 Aug 7, 2007
Like I said... Unions are for the dead beats that don't want to work. Where I work, if something breaks down, we are all maintenance men. Where you work if you do maintenance, they will file a grievance. I believe in getting it going and get back running so I and the company can make money. My company offers me flex classes to educate all of us and help us improve at and away from work. And no sorry a$$ union does that for me. I guess the Union gave you a raise on picketing. Is it up to $20 now? I worked at a company that had a union and I was company. I watched the union take the peoples dues every month and not help any of them. A union can not defend people against insuboardination. Matter of a fact, I fired a shop steward for telling one of my employees not to do something I said. They get a chip on their shoulders and think they are invincible. Wrong! We all get paid by a company to do a good job. You do your job and you don't need a union.
former worker

Saint Louis, MO

#6 Aug 9, 2007
i worked for usaw 7686 at noranda in 1983 to 1984. i was laid off in 1984 because my "brothers", with high senority would not take a dollar an hour pay cut for a temporary amount of time so us lower senority workers could keep our jobs. the union sucks, the "brothers" are only out for themselves. there is no sticking together. when workers get 300 people under them, and the company says if they don't agree on a new contract, they will lay off 50 people, and after that, maybe 50 more, then they figure there are still 200 poor bastards under them so they don't have to worry, so they vote not to settle. all you high senority guys, who i call "munch heads" can go to hades before i will ever support you. i hope noranda gets tired of you and pulls out and puts you in the unemployment line like you did me. especially now that you are all too old to do anything else.
Outta Towner

Round Lake, IL

#7 Aug 13, 2007
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Just wondering

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Aug 13, 2007
former worker wrote:
i worked for usaw 7686 at noranda in 1983 to 1984. i was laid off in 1984 because my "brothers", with high senority would not take a dollar an hour pay cut for a temporary amount of time so us lower senority workers could keep our jobs. the union sucks, the "brothers" are only out for themselves. there is no sticking together. when workers get 300 people under them, and the company says if they don't agree on a new contract, they will lay off 50 people, and after that, maybe 50 more, then they figure there are still 200 poor bastards under them so they don't have to worry, so they vote not to settle. all you high senority guys, who i call "munch heads" can go to hades before i will ever support you. i hope noranda gets tired of you and pulls out and puts you in the unemployment line like you did me. especially now that you are all too old to do anything else.
Apparently you were one of the SCABS working during the strike there for thats why your sorry ass doesnt work there anymore !!!
cry baby

Kennett, MO

#9 Aug 13, 2007
Just wondering wrote:
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Apparently you were one of the SCABS working during the strike there for thats why your sorry ass doesnt work there anymore !!!
At least this person worked instead of getting pissed and "taking their ball and going home" because they didn't get what they wanted. Freaking cry baby, lets go on strike cuz I didn't get what I wanted
If you are that good why do you need to pay somebody to protect your job.
De Javu All Over Again

Kennett, MO

#10 Aug 13, 2007
unions were worth while in the 20-30's but not now if you don't like your job quit and go find one you like. That is why all of these foreign companies are kicking our as$es when it comes to production. Their employees want to work not stand around with their hand out for somebody to give them something they didn't work for
former worker

Kennett, MO

#12 Aug 14, 2007
Just wondering wrote:
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Apparently you were one of the SCABS working during the strike there for thats why your sorry ass doesnt work there anymore !!!
listen idiot, i was hired in at noranda on september 1983 and laid off in september 1984. and i also got it wrong in my eariler post, my "brothers" would not take a 32cent an hour pay cut for a short amount of time, in my eariler i said a dollar an hour, but another former worker who i worked with at the time refreshed my memory. also, moron, a scab is someone who comes in during a strike and works because your sorry ass won't, i was not a scab, i was a member of this so call union that took my dues and booted me out the door. maybe if you lose your job and starve a little it will make you more humble.
just my opinion

Oreana, IL

#13 Aug 14, 2007
I for one just can'tcommprehend why anyone would want to strike. I'm an outsider here, but know several union and several of the non union workers at Noranda.

Cuts are being made everywhere, no matter where you work. Now days you have to work longer hours for less pay to get ahead. Benefits are not what they used to be. Insurance is higher for all companies. If everyone complained or quit about their current job situation no one would work!!

Money is tight these days. Most of the union workers I know at Noranda all have very nice homes, nice vehicles, boats and campers. What do they have to complain about? Looks to me like their bread is getting buttered. Are they actually thinking what will happen when they strike and don't get paid for it.

How many unions are still even around this area? Not very many that I know of.
Noranda Brat

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Aug 14, 2007
My father has worked at Noranda for 32 years, he has been through every strike that Noranda has had and I have been involved in several myself. The union use to be good however it does have several problems now. One thing about being in this union is that if you have problems and or are threatned to lose your job, the union can step in and protect your job so apparently former worker must have done something pretty bad to no longer have a job. I have seen and heard of several that were sent off for drug rehab, alchohol rehab, etc.etc. that was able to return to their job once their rehab was completed with much thanks to the Union. Just because some people have an issue with the Union some of us others dont. My father works his ass off every day and i have heard how the " younger " employees do nothing but sit on their lazy ass and bitch and complain over nothing. My father could really care less right now what happens with Noranda because he is retirement age and can walk away with a large retirement sum. Oh and former worker...it sounds as if you were the idiot..if you were a hard worker, showed up for work every single day you were scheduled, and done the job you were hired to do, then chances are if you were laid off then you would have been called back to work. Try again..I am no idiot but it does sound like you are just another one of the piss poor employees that sat around with your thumb up your ass watching everyone else around you bust their ass to do their job and yours. Stop having your little pity party for yourself and be a damned man.
former worker

Kennett, MO

#15 Aug 14, 2007
Noranda Brat wrote:
My father has worked at Noranda for 32 years, he has been through every strike that Noranda has had and I have been involved in several myself. The union use to be good however it does have several problems now. One thing about being in this union is that if you have problems and or are threatned to lose your job, the union can step in and protect your job so apparently former worker must have done something pretty bad to no longer have a job. I have seen and heard of several that were sent off for drug rehab, alchohol rehab, etc.etc. that was able to return to their job once their rehab was completed with much thanks to the Union. Just because some people have an issue with the Union some of us others dont. My father works his ass off every day and i have heard how the " younger " employees do nothing but sit on their lazy ass and bitch and complain over nothing. My father could really care less right now what happens with Noranda because he is retirement age and can walk away with a large retirement sum. Oh and former worker...it sounds as if you were the idiot..if you were a hard worker, showed up for work every single day you were scheduled, and done the job you were hired to do, then chances are if you were laid off then you would have been called back to work. Try again..I am no idiot but it does sound like you are just another one of the piss poor employees that sat around with your thumb up your ass watching everyone else around you bust their ass to do their job and yours. Stop having your little pity party for yourself and be a damned man.
you picked the right name, brat. if i had a poor work record, then 200 other people did too. get the stupidness out of your head and have someone re-read my post to you. you said it right, your dad can collect a big fat pension at my and one hundred and forth nine other's expense, your dad was one of the cut throats who helped cut our jobs. i hope he gets to exercise his pension rights soon, for he is as big an idiot as you are, and by the way you talk in your post you sound like an uneducated one. also, if he gets laid off before his retirement age, he will lose most of those benefits. hahahahahaha! no, i did not return to noranda after a year of being off because i found a REAL JOB! like you need to do.
question

AOL

#16 Aug 14, 2007
What do Noranda employees average a year? I have relatives in Kennett, are there any other good jobs around? What about the steel mills? I hear they pay very well.
Thanks
Noranda Brat

Saint Louis, MO

#17 Aug 14, 2007
Uneducated??? Please spare me your stupidity. From the looks of things and the lack of writing skills you are the uneducated fool but the last time I checked a factory worker need not be very intelligent. My father I am proud to say was not one of the one's that you are accusing of cutting jobs. He has been asked several times to take over a foreman position but considering his age, and years of employment with Noranda he knows all to well the process in which if he takes that position he will no longer be Union therefore at any given time Noranda can choose to terminate his position leaving him unemployed. So from where I stand it sounds as if they union has been good for something as he still has a job, he works at least 4-6 hours of overtime everyday in 105 degree temperatures and not once has he ever whined and cryed as many others seem to be doing. I have my facts straight on this and I could go on and on regarding this issue but I choose to let you and the other idiots fight it out amongst yourselves. Oh and as far as my father being laid off before retirement age..ummm..he is 63 years old and still chooses to work unlike the rest of the sorry asses that want to sit around and just draw a check. He will get all that is coming to him and its really nice to know that he will get what was once yours too. I am most definatly a Noranda Brat and I am not ashamed to admit it. That company supported our family, it paid our bills, it bought our nice homes, and our nice vehicles, and it put us through college. I had to endure all the B/S all through high school because my father worked for Noranda, I handled it then and I will handle it now. If you no longer work there then why does this concern you? Because you were fired, not layed off...FIRED!!! Get over it
noranda employee

Platte City, MO

#18 Aug 14, 2007
it is a shame to know that if the steel workers go on strike. their will be a scab standing their to go and attempt to do his job. but it is a known fact that about 90% of them can't handle it and quit after a week or 2.it is very hot their and you have a very dangerious job there as well. but if not for the union. there would be alot more accidents and death there unlike some these non union plants in blythville. for all you scabs waiting in line to try and take my job from me. you had better be used to the heat and you had better realize what you are getting into. scabing has split up familys, hurt buisness,and ruined freindships. and has also cost lives.
guest 1225

Kansas City, MO

#19 Aug 14, 2007
cry baby wrote:
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At least this person worked instead of getting pissed and "taking their ball and going home" because they didn't get what they wanted. Freaking cry baby, lets go on strike cuz I didn't get what I wanted
If you are that good why do you need to pay somebody to protect your job.
It' not what U want its what they are taking away..
guest 1225

Kansas City, MO

#20 Aug 14, 2007
question wrote:
What do Noranda employees average a year? I have relatives in Kennett, are there any other good jobs around? What about the steel mills? I hear they pay very well.
Thanks
Kind of getting personal aren't U..
guest 1225

Kansas City, MO

#21 Aug 14, 2007
De Javu All Over Again wrote:
unions were worth while in the 20-30's but not now if you don't like your job quit and go find one you like. That is why all of these foreign companies are kicking our as$es when it comes to production. Their employees want to work not stand around with their hand out for somebody to give them something they didn't work for
It's called the Free Trade Act. So companies move to make huge profits from paying very, very, low wages and u Blame it on Unions don't think so. it is all political..

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