NOt happy with my minister

NOt happy with my minister

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Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#1 Nov 17, 2012
Should we expect more out of ministers than the average laman? AT ballgames, out of the pulpit, shouldh't they be a example? I was embarrassed at our preacher at the 7th grade basketball tournament between us and Kennett at South Pem last night. I love to beat Kennett, they think, and have always thought, they are so much better than us, but our preacher was standing, waving, getting the crowd to make noise and stomp the bleachers when the free throws were being shot. he was encouraging us to do that. Kennett did to but it's the example of our preacher that got me. you can expect that kind of action out of kids, but a grown man, a preacher???m I was ashamed. Some things just look out of place. don't know if i am going to meneiton it to him or not but I'll always think about that when he is preaching about doing hte right thing. That just ain't right.
book

Kennett, MO

#2 Nov 17, 2012
Read a science book.
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#3 Nov 17, 2012
Shut up if you can't give an answer pertaining to the topic.
book

Kennett, MO

#4 Nov 17, 2012
Okay then, how about you read the bible?
If I recall correctly, it does state that you aren't to judge, only your god has the authority to. You're judging your preacher. That's a sin. You will go to hell according to the bible.
Open eyes

Campbell, MO

#5 Nov 17, 2012
Actually she's judging his actions not his soul. Its called discernment. Try understanding what you read and there's a lit more in the Bible than just that. Read it sometime. But then again, your just practicing self righteousness, right? We should use discernment. Only a fool wouldn't. Talk like yours is how sin gets in the pulpit and churches become corrupt.
Stanley

Burlington, IA

#6 Nov 18, 2012
Guest wrote:
Should we expect more out of ministers than the average laman? AT ballgames, out of the pulpit, shouldh't they be a example? I was embarrassed at our preacher at the 7th grade basketball tournament between us and Kennett at South Pem last night. I love to beat Kennett, they think, and have always thought, they are so much better than us, but our preacher was standing, waving, getting the crowd to make noise and stomp the bleachers when the free throws were being shot. he was encouraging us to do that. Kennett did to but it's the example of our preacher that got me. you can expect that kind of action out of kids, but a grown man, a preacher???m I was ashamed. Some things just look out of place. don't know if i am going to meneiton it to him or not but I'll always think about that when he is preaching about doing hte right thing. That just ain't right.
Unass him. Consider following God instead of a "preacher". He knows nothing about salvation that you can't find for yourself in the Bible. Don't toss coins into his collection plate; that'll do more to improve his behaviors than any "talk" you may have with him.

Unass him. Refuse to know him. Refuse to support him. No one needs a "preacher". Everyone just needs to sit down and behave themselves.
Christian

Saint Louis, MO

#8 Nov 18, 2012
Preachers arent perfect. They make mistakes and sin too. So easy to see others mistakes. Look at yourself. Quit pointing fingers at others. If you really have a problem with the way he acted. Talk to him in love. Topix probably wasnt the best way to handle this. One might question you as a christian now. If they knew who you were.
Meme

Saint Louis, MO

#9 Nov 18, 2012
Okay "Book" consider that your minister was cheating on his wife, oh my goodness, let's not "judge" him. we have the right to call attention to the things that are not "Christ-like" and someone has to speak up. Of course what that person was talking about, behavior, example, is important but not to be compared with adultry. I think someone needs to remind him of his position and influence. If you preach it, you better walk it!
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#10 Nov 18, 2012
Do you really think it is a "mistake" to act like that, or could it possibly be intentional and simply not care? We all have a choice of what we do. Come on, we can take a second to think about our actions before we do them. Sorry if I offended anyone by posting on here. Just thought I might get some opinions if I'm thinking right or not.
Truth

Campbell, MO

#11 Nov 18, 2012
Christian wrote:
Preachers arent perfect. They make mistakes and sin too. So easy to see others mistakes. Look at yourself. Quit pointing fingers at others. If you really have a problem with the way he acted. Talk to him in love. Topix probably wasnt the best way to handle this. One might question you as a christian now. If they knew who you were.
Lets see, you question a persons Christianity because they question sin. Jesus threw them out of sanctuary with an ass whoopin. You say do what Jesus would do. You pick and choose according to who people are. Jesus called your type serpents. You question a godly gift of discernment calling it judgement when his soul wasn't in question. Your a political idiot. Pastors that are truly appointed by God (which is a very small percentage) are put there because of a closer walk with God. He also uses men to take those who fall short as wolves in sheep's clothing from position. Read the book, learn the truth not just what your told. Those appointed to kingship, the apostlics, and Jesus followers were men of very strong response to sinnful nature and who he built his church upon. Turning away from those political as vipers.
Christian

Saint Louis, MO

#12 Nov 18, 2012
He also said forgive others as he has forgiven you. Who among you is without sin. We all sin every day. Glad God is my judge and not you!
Truth wrote:
<quoted text> Lets see, you question a persons Christianity because they question sin. Jesus threw them out of sanctuary with an ass whoopin. You say do what Jesus would do. You pick and choose according to who people are. Jesus called your type serpents. You question a godly gift of discernment calling it judgement when his soul wasn't in question. Your a political idiot. Pastors that are truly appointed by God (which is a very small percentage) are put there because of a closer walk with God. He also uses men to take those who fall short as wolves in sheep's clothing from position. Read the book, learn the truth not just what your told. Those appointed to kingship, the apostlics, and Jesus followers were men of very strong response to sinnful nature and who he built his church upon. Turning away from those political as vipers.
Truth

Campbell, MO

#13 Nov 18, 2012
U confuse forgiveness with judgement. Noone said he isn't forgivable nor did they judge him. Judgement is for the soul and forgiveness for the worldly man. Judgement for the worldly man is death as all flesh will burn. The soul another matter reserved for God alone. Forgiveness also entails repentance and turning away from sin. Until such time there is a harvest for the seed he sows. Good or bad. Sorry, once again your rhetoric is not scriptural but doctrinal. Its all back to basics without all the church hype and picking and choosing what you believe on a political level in church. Sounds as though you are on the ladder to success in the church but not necessarily heaven. Its all a process though and directions can change. Chase after the full knowledge of God not just the quotable. Bet you don't defend or rub elbows with the divorced dad on backrow of church like you do the preacher. Just remember while you chase after fleshly principles in the church the Guy on backfield is tired of them and chasing godly principles with mouth shut and spirit in tune to truth. Be careful when you pray to not be like those who pray loudly in the synagogues for they have already received their reward. He's speaking of you. Check yourself. Its between you and God and no matter what you speak or what you honor he tells your heart what is false and the spirit suffers it although you justify. Regardless of what you think the pastor is responsible for the sheep and himself.
book

Kennett, MO

#14 Nov 18, 2012
Meme wrote:
Okay "Book" consider that your minister was cheating on his wife, oh my goodness, let's not "judge" him. we have the right to call attention to the things that are not "Christ-like" and someone has to speak up. Of course what that person was talking about, behavior, example, is important but not to be compared with adultry. I think someone needs to remind him of his position and influence. If you preach it, you better walk it!
The bible says not to judge. Even if he murders a dozen babies, you aren't supposed to judge. That is god's job according to the bible. If you aren't going to follow what it says, stop blabbering about it all the time and stop pretending you're a christian.
Truth

Campbell, MO

#15 Nov 18, 2012
Meme wrote:
Okay "Book" consider that your minister was cheating on his wife, oh my goodness, let's not "judge" him. we have the right to call attention to the things that are not "Christ-like" and someone has to speak up. Of course what that person was talking about, behavior, example, is important but not to be compared with adultry. I think someone needs to remind him of his position and influence. If you preach it, you better walk it!
Actually, no sin is greater than any other in gods eyes. That's a worldly principle. Talking about the druggy on backrow behind his back, cheating with another's wife, placing pastor above gods principles( whether you admit it or not) is all sin and the wage for each is the same DEATH. Study to find yourself approved by God not man or your pastor. You will find yourself in a minority known as those traveling the less traveled path. The few and persecuted for his names sake. The word says "Who are you to think your greater than the master. As he was persecuted so shall you be and as he was believed so shall you be." It is a lonely path waiting on men but waiting on God he walks closer than a brother. Why do you justify your position so. Jesus didn't and anyone following him doesn't need to.
Truth

Campbell, MO

#16 Nov 18, 2012
book wrote:
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The bible says not to judge. Even if he murders a dozen babies, you aren't supposed to judge. That is god's job according to the bible. If you aren't going to follow what it says, stop blabbering about it all the time and stop pretending you're a christian.
Once again those here question his behavior yet you blatently say they are pretending Christians which is a judgement of soul. How do you justify that. This practice is a double standard common amping Christians usually behind their backs. Being unstable in the word usually points to instability elsewhere. Try praying before speaking. To God that is. Heaven awaits you.
book

Kennett, MO

#17 Nov 18, 2012
Truth wrote:
<quoted text> Once again those here question his behavior yet you blatently say they are pretending Christians which is a judgement of soul. How do you justify that. This practice is a double standard common amping Christians usually behind their backs. Being unstable in the word usually points to instability elsewhere. Try praying before speaking. To God that is. Heaven awaits you.
I'm not a christian. The bible doesn't matter to me. The OP is a christian therefore they should follow what it says.
Christian

Saint Louis, MO

#18 Nov 18, 2012
Will pray for you my friend!
Truth wrote:
<quoted text> Actually, no sin is greater than any other in gods eyes. That's a worldly principle. Talking about the druggy on backrow behind his back, cheating with another's wife, placing pastor above gods principles( whether you admit it or not) is all sin and the wage for each is the same DEATH. Study to find yourself approved by God not man or your pastor. You will find yourself in a minority known as those traveling the less traveled path. The few and persecuted for his names sake. The word says "Who are you to think your greater than the master. As he was persecuted so shall you be and as he was believed so shall you be." It is a lonely path waiting on men but waiting on God he walks closer than a brother. Why do you justify your position so. Jesus didn't and anyone following him doesn't need to.
Truth

Campbell, MO

#19 Nov 18, 2012
It was already evident that like so many people in churches you only have a small knowledge base from which to validate your statement and percieve it to apply to others but not self. You think judgement and discernment are the same. Not mine to judge your outcome but discerning your inability to discuss or understand Biblical principles not to mention the English language on a spiritual level. When discussing spiritual things it would pay to have a dictionary at your disposal. Not knowing the difference between words like discernment and judgement amping many others leaves you not only lacking on knowledge but unable to comprehend what others are saying. Get a Bible and a dictionary and you may have a different outllook on these concepts and realize it might be worth going over to see what its about. Also it may may show you that some judgement you make are wrong and possibly some judgements against you or some discernments you percieved to be judgements left a bad taste in your mouth although it was just your misconception. Good luck in your endeavors. Hope to see you on the other side.
Seriously

Florissant, MO

#20 Nov 18, 2012
Is there really a discussion about this on topix. That has been done at ballgames for as long as I can remember, and I am almost 40. There is nothing wrong with stomping your feet and doing what has always been a staple action at ballgames. This is just crazy that this is something to be concerned about. If he was out there handing out beers, hooping and hollering at an event such as Delta Children's Auction or laying out all night with strange women, then I'd say you have something to complain about. That is exactly what is wrong with this area. People are always focusing on the small things and wasting precious energy on things that are "that" big of a deal instead of lending a hand and helping someone out and hey spreading the word of God wouldn't hurt either. People are being diagnosed with cancer or other illnesses every day and THIS is what we can find to complain about. Say a little prayer for your preacher if it bothers you that much and then focus on doing something to impact someone else's life in a good way.
Truth

Campbell, MO

#21 Nov 18, 2012
Christian wrote:
Will pray for you my friend!
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Lets see. Your exact words were question someone as a Christian. That judgement not discernment and a misconception on your part. Thanks for the prayers as I need them all but I hope your misconceptions don't make them of no effect. That traditions of men thing. Know what I mean?

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