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“God is Good!”

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#1 Feb 3, 2013
2 Corinthians 3:7
(7) But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away,
New King James Version

When Paul speaks of "the ministry of death," he refers to the administration of the Old Covenant rather than the Ten Commandments. The Levitical priesthood, a carnal priesthood based on physical descent from Levi, administered the Old Covenant. This covenant provided no promise of eternal life and no means for sinners to receive forgiveness because "it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins" (Hebrews 10:4). Therefore, the people lived and died under the condemnation of the law, and "the wages of sin is death" (Romans 6:23).

Another reason why Paul refers to the Old Covenant as "the ministry of death" is that God required the Levitical priesthood to execute those who transgressed certain laws. God's law mandates the death penalty for certain sins like murder and dishonoring parents (Exodus 21:12-17), Sabbath-breaking (Exodus 31:14-15) and certain sexual sins (Leviticus 20:10-13). The priests were responsible to enforce the death penalty by actually putting such transgressors to death in the proscribed manner. In this sense, the Old Covenant ministry was indeed a "ministry of death."

However, why did Paul say that the "ministry of death," the administration of the Old Covenant, was "written and engraved on stones"? Was it not the Ten Commandments that God wrote on two stone tablets? Even though the Ten Commandments were not the covenant itself (a covenant is simply an agreement between two parties), they were the terms of the covenant. Because the Ten Commandments constituted the part of the agreement between God and Israel that the Israelites agreed to keep, the Old Covenant became synonymous with the Ten Commandments. In Deuteronomy 4:13 Moses writes, "So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tables of stone." To put it another way, "keeping the Old Covenant" was the same as "keeping the Ten Commandments."

A paraphrase of the first eleven words of II Corinthians 3:7 helps to clarify what Paul means: "But if the administration of the Old Covenant,[the terms of which were] written and engraved on stones...." The Ten Commandments undergirded all the laws that God gave to Israel--laws that the Israelites could not keep. The responsibility to teach these laws to Israel and enforce penalties for disobedience, including the death penalty, fell to the priests.

Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need was there that another priest should rise according to the order of Melchizedek, and not be called according to the order of Aaron?(Hebrews 7:11)

When Moses went up Mount Sinai the second time to receive the Ten Commandments, he wrote God's statutes and judgments in a book, and God wrote the Ten Commandments on two tables of stone. This, in essence, finalized the "contract" that God made with Israel.

Then the LORD said to Moses, "Write these words, for according to the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel." So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.(Exodus 34:27-28)

Verses 29-35 then describe how Moses face shone when he delivered the Ten Commandments and the book of the law to Israel.

So what is passing away? Hebrews 8:13 provides the answer: "In that He says,'A new covenant,' He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away." The Old Covenant and the Old Covenant ministry, the Levitical priesthood, are passing away, not the Ten Commandments!
church

Kennett, MO

#2 Feb 3, 2013
But we no longer live by the LAW right? Jesus left us with two commandments..which if you follow those the Ten Commandments will automatically be part of your life....
Keep It Decent

London, KY

#3 Feb 3, 2013
There is no human being capable of keeping all of the Law. So what is the purpose of this thread?
church

Kennett, MO

#4 Feb 3, 2013
Keep It Decent wrote:
There is no human being capable of keeping all of the Law. So what is the purpose of this thread?
I was wondering that myself.. I just saw it and I personally don't think we live under the law anymore... that is scriptural ...not just my opinion... I just saw such a long post I thought I would ask

“God is Good!”

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#5 Feb 4, 2013
Moses' law and God's law are different. This will help explain it a little better:

http://www.preparingforeternity.com/mosevs10....
church

Kennett, MO

#6 Feb 7, 2013
so do you believe in tithing ??

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#7 Feb 8, 2013
church wrote:
so do you believe in tithing ??
Yes I do. "In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel." (1 Corinthians 9:14)

A little more here:
http://www.gci.org/law/tithing
church

Kennett, MO

#8 Feb 8, 2013
nope didn't help... We are not under tithing law anymore... that was brought back by the Catholic Church.... 10 percent is a stumbling block.. I give 20 .... How about heaven .. Do you think you go to heaven when you die or do you lie at rest until judgement day.?... I just cant believe all these people who have been in church for years and still cant tell you anything about what the WORD tells them...

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#9 Feb 9, 2013
People interpret the Word differently. I feel that tithing was never done away with.

As far as going to Heaven when I die. I truly don't know. There are some scriptures that insinuate that if you are saved, your spirit goes to Heaven immediately upon death. I guess we will all have to wait until that time to find out for sure. Do you believe that your spirit lies in the ground with your dead body until judgement day?

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer 's%20Corner/Doctrines/judgment .htm
Noone

Campbell, MO

#10 Feb 9, 2013
Don't know if you go to heaven but do know upon being declared dead at the scene I spent time with someone I greatly desired to stay with and seen things that this world can't compare to only to be shoved back here and life to become so grey and tasteless with a desire to do much and sight of a world that speaks much and does little or nothing. I wanna go home.
I Wonder

Fenton, MO

#11 Feb 9, 2013
I thought this was very inspiring.

http://wewalkwithjesus.org/...
church

Kennett, MO

#12 Feb 10, 2013
Old Time Kennett Resident wrote:
People interpret the Word differently. I feel that tithing was never done away with.
As far as going to Heaven when I die. I truly don't know. There are some scriptures that insinuate that if you are saved, your spirit goes to Heaven immediately upon death. I guess we will all have to wait until that time to find out for sure. Do you believe that your spirit lies in the ground with your dead body until judgement day?
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer 's%20Corner/Doctrines/judgment .htm
Yes, if not there is no need for judgement day... you have already been judged ...scripture is very clear on this..or it is to me...
As far as Tithing it was a law .. we no longer live under the law ... so if you believe tithing stayed in effect all the other laws would have had to stay also...and we all know we couldn't fulfill those...if we could've we wouldn;t have needed a savior ..:)
A Friend

Kennett, MO

#13 Feb 10, 2013
No we can give WAY more than 10% if we choose to. Luke 6;38 says
Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Now I'm ALL FOR THAT.....give freely
Hahaha

Springfield, MO

#14 Feb 16, 2013
Someone needs to punch you
A Friend

Kennett, MO

#15 Feb 20, 2013
Hahaha wrote:
Someone needs to punch you
Plant your little feet up here, Sunshine and give it your best shot. I may not be able to stop you from tryin but I can durn sure break you from the habit once you get here!

“V'GER SEEKS THE CREATOR”

Since: Oct 09

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#16 Feb 20, 2013
So Yahweh killed and condemned all those folk and then decided, oh, they are human, they can't do that. Oops, sorry, I changed my mind, sorry to all those folks I wiped out for those Jews I brought ou of Egypt to steal other people's lands.
I think not
A Friend

Kennett, MO

#17 Feb 20, 2013
ALL live originates from Yahweh (God) He created it and He can reclain THAT life. After all, it BELONGS to Him.
guest

Mexia, TX

#18 Feb 20, 2013
A Friend wrote:
ALL live originates from Yahweh (God) He created it and He can reclain THAT life. After all, it BELONGS to Him.
Who or what created "Yahweh"??
A Friend

Kennett, MO

#19 Feb 20, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Who or what created "Yahweh"??
God WAS, IS and EVER shall be. No beginning or end! Read the Bible and you'll find out LOTS that you never knew. ;)
guest

Mexia, TX

#20 Feb 21, 2013
A Friend wrote:
God WAS, IS and EVER shall be. No beginning or end! Read the Bible and you'll find out LOTS that you never knew. ;)
I've read the bible and it doesn't provide any answers, just unverifiable conclusions and excuses. So if that's what you're basing your statement on then you're either intentionally being dishonest or you're making an argument from ignorance.

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