Was St. Paul man's stuff junk? Or just stuff? Either way, it's tras...

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Alt

Blooming Prairie, MN

#1 Sep 20, 2010
If you want to live like country folk you can't live in a city, at 70 you are old enough to know that. Try raising farm animals in a city and see what happens. Just pay your taxes mow your lawn and watch TV, that's the city life.

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ShannonZ

Minneapolis, MN

#2 Sep 20, 2010
items deemed a "nuisance" = You arent paying money to "license" this item so it is a "nuisance"
ShannonZ

Minneapolis, MN

#3 Sep 20, 2010
Alt wrote:
If you want to live like country folk you can't live in a city, at 70 you are old enough to know that. Try raising farm animals in a city and see what happens. Just pay your taxes mow your lawn and watch TV, that's the city life.
A lot of folks think they are living in the country and then "everyone" follows them to the country and makes all these "city" rules!!

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George

Saint Paul, MN

#4 Sep 20, 2010
The way I see it, the guy wrote his own ticket to this one. He had plenty of chances and warnings to either clean up his yard or pay the city to do it. He chose the latter, the way I see it. And he has done this once before. A guy like this deserves to live in an apartment, not own a home in a neighborhood.
Suck it up, pal, you have noone to blame but your own lazy self! You should have learned this lesson the first time.
citylights

Delano, MN

#5 Sep 20, 2010
Alt wrote:
If you want to live like country folk you can't live in a city, at 70 you are old enough to know that. Try raising farm animals in a city and see what happens. Just pay your taxes mow your lawn and watch TV, that's the city life.
Have some consideration for this fellow. I don't agree with hoarders, but pay your taxes, mow the lawn and watch TV. Do you mean the boob-tube? For all the dumb as````````es? He has lived there for over a decade which equals over ten years. My question is, was this farm land before all the city folks moved in? I don't know, but callus disregard for this man's situation is uncalled for. And for all you folks who say he needs psychological intervention, wait until you are 70 plus to give your advice. Otherwise, be quiet please. Your mantra is getting old. And I am a very neat and tidy and without junk person, so don't get on my case.
Get out and go back

Minneapolis, MN

#6 Sep 20, 2010
The city did it because they can and for no other reason. I sure hope they feel powerful now.

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The hearings are rigged

Minneapolis, MN

#7 Sep 21, 2010
90% pf the time those hearings are predetermined before the property owner ever gets there. The city just rolls over people like a steam roller because they know most people do not have the money to fight with them.
norton

United States

#8 Sep 21, 2010
Amen. The city, county, state, feds do it because they can. Again it is proven they are above the law
George

Saint Paul, MN

#10 Sep 21, 2010
Obviously, several commenters have not read the article close enough to realize that this is in a city neighborhood, where his junk is an eyesore and property devaluater to all his neighbors there, The other thing you may have missed is that he did this a couple of years before with the exact same result, and he had to pay the city $25,000 to clean it up that time. You would think he would have learned from that. The other thing is that this is not an instant action taken by the city, but comes after much correspondence with him over many months, including several requests and warnings to him to no avail. The guy is just a lazy bum with a yard full of junk, and a pain in the butt to the neighborhood! Would you want that mess living next door to you?
Been There

Saint Paul, MN

#11 Sep 21, 2010
I am 74 and would not be stupid enough to hang onto the stuff he had. Plus, the city cleaned him up once before. His stupid attorney took this to the supremee court of the state of MN and lost. What is he crying about the city cleaning his stuff up. He lost all appeals, end of the story and now he wants sympathy and some free publicity in the PP. Now he will start dragging in stuff again so in 10 years it will need a clean up again. Lantry is correct in not responding because his idiot attorney is looking at $$$ this fool will have to pay him. The city was absolutely correct in doing what was done.
blindman

Lady Lake, FL

#12 Sep 21, 2010
how about all the rats who lived there now the poor cruitters will have to go on welfare being there homes were destroyed! think about that. Now we all will have to pay more taxe's to support them.
Maria

Minneapolis, MN

#13 Sep 21, 2010
He is a hoarder and no one should live like that.
Electric Barbarella

Brainerd, MN

#14 Sep 21, 2010
ShannonZ wrote:
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A lot of folks think they are living in the country and then "everyone" follows them to the country and makes all these "city" rules!!
You are so right ShannonZ. Crow Wing county is the mother of that.
FilmAtTen

AOL

#15 Sep 21, 2010
George wrote:
Obviously, several commenters have not read the article close enough to realize that this is in a city neighborhood, where his junk is an eyesore and property devaluater to all his neighbors there, The other thing you may have missed is that he did this a couple of years before with the exact same result, and he had to pay the city $25,000 to clean it up that time. You would think he would have learned from that. The other thing is that this is not an instant action taken by the city, but comes after much correspondence with him over many months, including several requests and warnings to him to no avail. The guy is just a lazy bum with a yard full of junk, and a pain in the butt to the neighborhood! Would you want that mess living next door to you?
I know the area well, and those that are commenting will understand when I mention I used to work for Oxford rubbish...yes right off McKnight nearby. As the Maplewood area grew up, it became more and more a suburb. This is a typlical situation all over the outer cities. George had to look at the fact. The barn he kept his "stuff" in and the yard the trucks occupied, were now next to new neighbors. He always was under the city rules, but back then the area was considered more rual, and the law was not so enforced. George first put up a large fence to keep things cool..... At some point the smell from the rubbish trucks concerned him, so he began washing the trucks out to help the situation. All this time, the "valuable junk" kept building up. By the time George got out of the businesss, the neighborhood was residental, and it was time to move on. It`s just the way it goes.

I worked for some of the biggest rubbish haulers in St.Paul, and most were on their own properties at the time...just out of Newport. Like Mr. Oxford, they all did the same type tings with their land to make it. And like George, sooner or later came under the local regulations...and they complied, and began keeping the trucks at other places, and no longer stored "stuff" at the yard. Yes, they were there first, but to be a neighbor means looking at their perspective also. If you can`t buy up the area around you...that is what happens as the cities grow. Woodbury had a hauler not far from the town hall off a county road that now is solid stop lights and homes...he`s not keeping his place like it used to be, and I think he has moved on now. Newport had it, South St.Paul, and even the east side...they all had to comply at some point....and did.

The thing is, this guy has not bothered to think about anyone but himself. Storing old boats and junk cars within reason, and lined up and not looking like a junkyard, helps a lot. But as it goes, after a while it becomes just park the junk in that space over there, or put it on top of that one.....

As the neighborhood begins to put up with not only the sight of the mess, but the critters it harbors....this is the result. This guy knew better, but failed to heed the warnings or care. I wouldn`t want to live anywhere near this clown, and I do not blame the city officials in taking the actions they took. The property is valuable....clean it up, sell it, and buy an old rundown farmhouse or something WAY out of the city and WAY out of sight...and he can have a ball. But he shouldn`t expect even THAT to even last forever. Respect for a neighbor is something that belongs everywhere. He violated that, and once again pays the piper for being foolish a second time.
Snickle

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Sep 21, 2010
Maria wrote:
He is a hoarder and no one should live like that.
Who are you to say how any one should live. That was rather ignorant.
Chucky2a

Maryville, TN

#17 Sep 21, 2010
The government, in its infinite wisdom, and its ability to do whatever it wishes, could care less about the citizens it has been elected to serve. Regardless of the state of the items, this sounds like a violation of his 4th Amendment right regarding illegal search and seizure.
oldtimer

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Sep 21, 2010
The city is oppressive and corrupt. A few years ago, i was asked to settle the estate of a high school freind. His house and garage, but not his yard, was full of stuff, a lot of it valuable.( early antique motorcycles and cars, and machinery over 100 years old. etc. The house was so full we had a hard time walking around. Over a period of 3 weeks, the property was about half cleaned out, when a city inspector showed up and put a condemned notice on the house. This made it very difficult to sell the property, because it would now have to be brought up to present day building code. I soon found out about the Cities, insider racket. The guys that "played poker" with the inspector who put up the condemned sign, started contacting me with extreme lowball offers on the property. After talking to them ,I soon found out that "They" could do repars and get an occupancy permit, with far less repairs than I would have to do. As I was doing this work for free and did not have endless hours to put in I the project, I took the estate lawyers recomendation and sold it to one of these city insiders, for a low price. The house was then flipped among these city insiders several times. Each time it sold at a higher price. Finally someone fixed it up and sold it. Do you think the City Inspector got a kick back????? Who did the contractors that cleaned out this lot know? What did they get payed? Who got payed off? If the City crew did it, What outrageous amount was assessed back on the property? In St Paul follow the money trail !!!
Joyful Joyful

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Sep 21, 2010
Between the Strib and now the PP, "Lenny" has had his day in the sun! Hopefully with his now cleared property, he will be able to see the light.
EOG

Saint Paul, MN

#20 Sep 21, 2010
citylights wrote:
<quoted text> Have some consideration for this fellow. I don't agree with hoarders, but pay your taxes, mow the lawn and watch TV. Do you mean the boob-tube? For all the dumb as````````es? He has lived there for over a decade which equals over ten years. My question is, was this farm land before all the city folks moved in? I don't know, but callus disregard for this man's situation is uncalled for. And for all you folks who say he needs psychological intervention, wait until you are 70 plus to give your advice. Otherwise, be quiet please. Your mantra is getting old. And I am a very neat and tidy and without junk person, so don't get on my case.
My 82 year old mother is a hoarder...this man needs some psych help...even at 70...last year my mother had a knee replaced and couldn't get in her apartment...I flew out and she wouldn't let me get rid of anything...one day when she was out I destroyed and threw away half the apartment so she could get her walker in and move around safely...I'm sure she has not forgiven me yet...sometimes the only way to help is to clear it all away and let them start over...this man will start over...I bet money on that!!!

Since: Jun 10

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Sep 21, 2010
If his crap was so prescious to him then why didn't he clean it up? Because last time the city was nice and took a lot of time to clear the garbage and he recovered some of it. The city had every right to trash the garbage and throw it away! If he thought it was worth so much then he would have cleaned it up and done something about it. He is retired and had all the time in the world to do something about the mess - I hope the city sends him a bill and he learns that he needs to get some therapy and stop hoarding!

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