Anti-war protesters throw shoes at Wh...

Anti-war protesters throw shoes at White House

There are 209 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Jan 19, 2009, titled Anti-war protesters throw shoes at White House. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Anti-war protesters were throwing shoes outside the gates of the White House on President George W. Bush's last day in office.

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“Depraved Indifference”

Since: Dec 08

Ronin

#215 Apr 16, 2009
ratttlecattle wrote:
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....report to IRAQ so you can dodge bullets for BUSH.
Obama bin lyin is still sending them over...go protest him to Libtard, anonymous POS

“He who laughs last thinks slow”

Since: Apr 09

Hanover, PA

#216 Apr 16, 2009
Sua Sponte wrote:
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Obama bin lyin is still sending them over...go protest him to Libtard, anonymous POS
Exactly...my brother is one of them. So pleasssseee "libtards" defend Obama now!

I stole your word Sua!:)
ratttlecattle

West Monroe, LA

#217 Apr 16, 2009
jc in rb wrote:
Current mood: cynical
Category: News and Politics
Imagine -
By Congressman Ron Paul
March 9, 2009
Imagine for a moment that somewhere in the middle of Texas there was a large foreign military base, say Chinese or Russian. Imagine that thousands of armed foreign troops were constantly patrolling American streets in military vehicles. Imagine they were here under the auspices of “keeping us safe” or “promoting democracy” or “protecting their strategic interests.”
Imagine that they operated outside of US law, and that the Constitution did not apply to them. Imagine that every now and then they made mistakes or acted on bad information and accidentally killed or terrorized innocent Americans, including women and children, most of the time with little to no repercussions or consequences. Imagine that they set up check points on our soil and routinely searched and ransacked entire neighborhoods of homes. Imagine if Americans were fearful of these foreign troops, and overwhelmingly thought America would be better off without their presence.
Imagine if some Americans were so angry about them being in Texas that they actually joined together to fight them off, in defense of our soil and sovereignty, because leadership in government refused or were unable to do so. Imagine that those Americans were labeled terrorists or insurgents for their defensive actions, and routinely killed, or captured and tortured by the foreign troops on our land. Imagine that the occupiers’ attitude was that if they just killed enough Americans, the resistance would stop, but instead, for every American killed, ten more would take up arms against them, resulting in perpetual bloodshed. Imagine if most of the citizens of the foreign land also wanted these troops to return home. Imagine if they elected a leader who promised to bring them home and put an end to this horror.
Imagine if that leader changed his mind once he took office.
The reality is that our military presence on foreign soil is as offensive to the people that live there as armed Chinese troops would be if they were stationed in Texas. We would not stand for it here, but we have had a globe straddling empire and a very intrusive foreign policy for decades that incites a lot of hatred and resentment towards us.
According to our own CIA, our meddling in the Middle East was the prime motivation for the horrific attacks on 9/11. But instead of re-evaluating our foreign policy, we have simply escalated it. We had a right to go after those responsible for 9/11, to be sure, but why do so many Americans feel as if we have a right to a military presence in some 160 countries when we wouldn’t stand for even one foreign base on our soil, for any reason? These are not embassies, mind you, these are military installations. The new administration is not materially changing anything about this. Shuffling troops around and playing with semantics does not accomplish the goals of the American people, who simply want our men and women to come home. 50,000 troops left behind in Iraq is not conducive to peace any more than 50,000 Russian soldiers would be in the United States.
Shutting down military bases and ceasing to deal with other nations with threats and violence is not isolationism. It is the opposite. Opening ourselves up to friendship, honest trade and diplomacy is the foreign policy of peace and prosperity. It is the only foreign policy that will not bankrupt us in short order, as our current actions most definitely will. I share the disappointment of the American people in the foreign policy rhetoric coming from the administration. The sad thing is, our foreign policy WILL change eventually, as Rome’s did, when all budgetary and monetary tricks to fund it are exhausted.
Well.....This actually makes sense....is it really from Ron Paul?
Suitcase

Brooklyn, NY

#218 Apr 16, 2009
Haywood Jablowme wrote:
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I would agree. My reference to my WWII was a response to the generalization and belittling of soldiers, per Rattlecattle. Being a “Conflict”(Vietnam) or “War”( I have a hard time considering Iraq after 91 a WAR) of choice could be generalized as well. I wonder, were all of the opposition to Iraq/Afghanistan listening to Colonel Oliver North in 1987 when he stated that “Osama Bin Laden was the USA’s greatest threat and needed to be stopped immediately”? Or were they too tied up in bashing him for his other indiscretions? Had the Bush administration not taken action……. Might we be having the same conversation 20 years from now about the Saddam regime?(Al Qaeda, aka; Bin Laden- has already been allowed their strike). The protesters have every right to disagree with the decisions of our government but I take serious issue with soldiers being called cowards and murderers! Ahhh…. Choice! Yes he was right, or I mean wrong , no I mean right……………? Who knows only time will tell. Vietnam- that is one many would like to forget, but cannot. Off to work!
Regrettably, 90% of the anger and resentment towards these wars ends up on shoulders of our servicemembers istead of directed towards the A$$HOLE$ in Wash. DC who sent them there in the first place!

They are the ones we should be mad at - not those who already bear, in some cases, over 1/3 of their own weight in body armor, weapons, and other gear.

At least I know who I disagree with, who I'm mad at, and who to this day deserves not just a stinkin' loafer, but a nice Timberland STEEL TOE to his cocky, smirky FOREHEAD for getting us into a second engagement in Iraq in the first place!!
Haywood Jablowme

Londonderry, VT

#219 Apr 17, 2009
ratttlecattle wrote:
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Boy are you full of BULL....
The biggest enemy the americans have is the US government and who do you think provides their muscle??????????
Our military was not protecting us in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan or any place else EXCEPT right here.
The USA wants WAR profits and will start a war anywhere to get it.

I could care less about your WW2 grandaddy, he got his medal and his payday and parade...what the heck else do you people want?
When the US government quits starting wars for profit using LIES, maybe people will respect the PAWN TROOPS more that get involved in those wars.
To support the troops you must support the war, that ain't gonna happen.
Make up your mind! You respond to my post, referencing the fact that the US is in it for the profit, and then in your next response you reference the over $400 Million that we are spending?????????? I do not know what country you live in, but I do not see any profit coming back from overseas. Between NAFTA and these conflicts, we are getting sucked dry. Do you think that the argument you are trying to put forth has not been around since the beginning of civilization(land, gold, silver, spices, slaves, etc.)? And it was always looked upon, or explained away as expansion or progression. Oh yea, all of that oil must be what you are referencing……….????? Nothing new?- C-mon! Where is the US government getting profit? It is the personal sector that gains, not the government, and the personal sector are the ones that have their arms shoved straight up the mouthpieces As.es on Capitol Hill. Until you perceive the government as the people, we cannot make a difference! If the military was allowed to do what it needs to do, we would probably be out of there in the matter of months. Yea, it would be brutal, but it would be over. I do get your point of the MUSCLE as the military is perceived. Wow, even with your disrespectful, bitter and personally attacking posts, you were able to get a point across.
ratttlecattle

Palm Bay, FL

#220 Apr 17, 2009
Haywood Jablowme wrote:
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Make up your mind! You respond to my post, referencing the fact that the US is in it for the profit, and then in your next response you reference the over $400 Million that we are spending?????????? I do not know what country you live in, but I do not see any profit coming back from overseas. Between NAFTA and these conflicts, we are getting sucked dry. Do you think that the argument you are trying to put forth has not been around since the beginning of civilization(land, gold, silver, spices, slaves, etc.)? And it was always looked upon, or explained away as expansion or progression. Oh yea, all of that oil must be what you are referencing……….????? Nothing new?- C-mon! Where is the US government getting profit? It is the personal sector that gains, not the government, and the personal sector are the ones that have their arms shoved straight up the mouthpieces As.es on Capitol Hill. Until you perceive the government as the people, we cannot make a difference! If the military was allowed to do what it needs to do, we would probably be out of there in the matter of months. Yea, it would be brutal, but it would be over. I do get your point of the MUSCLE as the military is perceived. Wow, even with your disrespectful, bitter and personally attacking posts, you were able to get a point across.
Is your head made of GRANITE or something?

The US government & the taxpayers are the big losers in these wars.

Northrup Grunmann, Blackwater, Haliburton, Kellong Brown & Root, Boeing and THOUSANDS of other military contractors and subcontactors are the ones profitting.

WAR is the only business where you get to write your own profits in using the false flag of National Security.

The USA has been in the war business since WW2, NOTHING will get in the way of the companies that dominate US government policy from war to eternal war.

The US government is dominated by an industry that will NEVER let peace happen anywhere on earth. There is no money in PEACE.

Ironically americans consider themselves to be a christian...NOTHING could be futher from the truth.

We start war after war on LIES, sell arms to opposing sides that we manipulate into war...then we consider ourselves to be the good guys..LMAO!
ratttlecattle

Palm Bay, FL

#221 Apr 17, 2009
Suitcase wrote:
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Regrettably, 90% of the anger and resentment towards these wars ends up on shoulders of our servicemembers istead of directed towards the A$$HOLE$ in Wash. DC who sent them there in the first place!
They are the ones we should be mad at - not those who already bear, in some cases, over 1/3 of their own weight in body armor, weapons, and other gear.
At least I know who I disagree with, who I'm mad at, and who to this day deserves not just a stinkin' loafer, but a nice Timberland STEEL TOE to his cocky, smirky FOREHEAD for getting us into a second engagement in Iraq in the first place!!
The US government leaders will use any LIE, Fabrication or EXCUSE to go to WAR because they know americans are ignorant and easily fooled.

I could care less about our troops, unless they surround the enemy in Washington DC. Then they might get the support of the american people.

Our troops would do any evil that NAZI trops would have done in WW2....just give em orders.
Imbecile

Philadelphia, PA

#222 Apr 17, 2009
ratttlecattle wrote:
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The US government leaders will use any LIE, Fabrication or EXCUSE to go to WAR because they know americans are ignorant and easily fooled.
I could care less about our troops, unless they surround the enemy in Washington DC. Then they might get the support of the american people.
Our troops would do any evil that NAZI trops would have done in WW2....just give em orders.
What a stupid F -- K!
ratttlecattle

United States

#223 Apr 19, 2009
Imbecile wrote:
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What a stupid F -- K!
We are our own worst enemy ya dummy!

The USA is a " Ship of Fools" with a rotten hull.

Why would GOD Bless America?? There is no reason what so ever.

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