Pat Robertson on Ft. Hood: Islam is 'not a religion' and...

[TexasProud]

YWN wrote:

Second part for ma *Main* man Arnold -
In Islam is fulfilled the prophecy of Matthew 21:42-43:
"The stone which the builders rejected, the same was made the head of the corner; this was from the Lord, and it is marvelous in our eyes. Therefore say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken away from you, and shall be given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."
At this point a necessary and wonderful guide appears, to purify and elevate our understanding of the relation between Islam and Christianity, and to break through the wall of orthodox prejudice that has blocked our understanding of the middle term [the so-called]Gnostic Judaeo-Christian heresy, the stone which the builders rejected.
Henri Corbin picks up Harnack's proposed definition of Islam as "a transformation on Arab soil of a Jewish religion that had itself been transformed by Gnostic Judaeo-Christianity." (7)
A special role was played by that "heresy" which struggled to avoid the catastrophic rupture between Christianity and Judaism, "Jewish Christianity" or "Ebionism."
The authoritative expert on Jewish Christianity, H.J. Schoeps, substantiates Harnack's judgment and draws out the world-historical implications: The Arabian Christianity which Mohammed found at the beginning of his public activity was not the state religion of Byzantium but a schismatic Christianity characterized by Ebionite and Monophysite views....
Thus we have a paradox of world-historical proportions, viz., the fact that Jewish Christianity indeed disappeared within the Christian church, but was preserved in Islam and thereby extended some of its basic ideas even to our own day.
According to Islamic doctrine, the Ebionite combination of Moses and Jesus found its fulfillment in Mohammed; the two elements, through the agency of Jewish Christianity, were, in Hegelian terms, "taken up" in Islam.(8)
Islam is to be envisaged as dialectical evolution, or evolutionary mutation, in the prophetic tradition, in response to the limitations built into the structure of orthodox Christianity by its historic compromise with Roman imperialism; by its commitment to scriptural canon, creedal orthodoxy, and episcopal hierarchy; and by its consequent scandalous history of schism and persecution (duly noted in the Koran).
To begin to envisage the prophetic tradition in truly world-historical terms ... the following hazardous generalizations are offered as preliminary orientation.
Islam picks up and extends the notion, already present in Jewish (Ebionite) Christianity, of the unity of the prophetic spirit:
Christus aeternus, verus propheta ab initio mundi per saeculum currens; the one true prophet, from age to age, from the beginning of the world; Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Christ, Muhammad.
The later prophet comes to reiterate the Eternal and Everlasting Gospel—the "seim anew," Lex mosaica per Jesum prophetam reformata, the mosaic law reformed by Jesus the prophet. The tradition gets de-formed and has to be re-formed.
Thus "true Christianity" is identical with "true Judaism"; H.J. Schoeps speaks of Ebionite "federal theology," according to which just as Moses was the teacher of the Jews, so Jesus was the teacher of the Gentiles.
And continue reading here:
Apocalypse and/or Metamorphosis By Norman O. Brown
Ch. 5: The Prophetic Tradition -
Page 49 and up -
http://books.google.com/books...
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Glad you can cite other sites but what are your own thought without citing others? Tell me why shia and sunni's fight each other?

[King Samuel]

Martha wrote:

Islam is just as much a religion as Baptists. The only difference is that the Baptists go to war and kill people with Jesus blessing, the Muslims go with Allah's blessing.

You are an idiot. You bleeding heart libs strive to secularize our government. And then you want to attribute said governments SECULAR wars to the christians?Why dont you shut your ignorant mouth you stupid apologist B-I-T-C-H.

[sue]

Muslums terrorists are nothing but cowards. They call for a holy war and then hide behimd womens skirts. I their allah a hole is so great why dont they just come out and fight instead of sneaking around like the rats that they are. so much for their great faith in allah ahole.

[Closedheart]

religon is suppposed to be a region someone lives and or trys to live in spiritually, other than that all this fighting has been going on against muslims for over a thousand years.Only the 12thour/tofro will fail permenantly the false religons as written even in Matthew ch 24.

Hence the bibilcal sayings or song come double day Jeremiayah, ISIAYAH render the skies , revelations come quickly , and how long song, and Gospels avenge speedily.and Psalms tarry not and remember their tulmuts/rage showings.

On a side note, the cold and whirlwinds are even closing in to the middle eastern regions, diverse/diffrent weathers , earthqaukes in also diverse places and or types.

The earth stirs its dead and or cold at the shutting the doors of righteous hearts and songs in heaven as written thru thru true, overcoming the false to fail them, thier hanging on by a chaff string that isnt a thing at the 12th hour/tofro thats going to high and low empires to and fro like anthills and birds nest, brining down thier haughtiness like a nest or anthill left standing.

We can occupy against the lies in flesh and soul, but we cannot stop them completely as the 12th hour/tofro will as written thru and thru true.

The weather is getting diverse , the financial sectors are getting diverse as well, the false religons are in still mode mostly already as well by these two events, everywhere and spreading with increasing speed.

Me personally I'm heart hibernating till the millina gets here why, because Isiayah and the gospels says so, I'll be happy to awake when all the shaking is over to and fro, till then, me soul is in more than a physical fox hole, me souls heart sleeps, with its heart shut, and I have nothing
or feeling for this world of lies and denies, nothing to look forward to, till all the tofro shakings thru,

11thour
Happy family no
Happy marriage no
Happy coastlands no
Happy sucklings no
etc etc
11thour
Happy closedheart yes.

The amazing thing about the heart of the soul is by its freewill ye cannot force it to like or love anything, with its freewill desire fire.

The colding to/fro voiding comes again will take care of the false to fail as written thru and thru true.

[Closedheart]

Babel could learn from the muslims muhummaed it groomed invented and had him ink the kookran, or a cruel pimp most people shut their hearts doors to such and ye cannot force a souls heart to like or love anything,

In fact babel and all its franchise false beliefs that rage tulmuts showings has not even the sweetness of vinegar, and thier flatteries as well flat out lies, like a liar to the heart, tossed to and fro and looks in a mirror and forgets ones ownself spiritual state, so babel and its franchised false belief also forget this above fact, ye cannot force a heart to like or love anything espcially by rage , showings tulmuts cruel pimp control tactics, or flatteries flat out lies that dosent even have the attractivness to a righteous heart as even the sweetness of vinegar,

They show this or that and we simply shut our hearts door, to start the end speedier and speedier all the more they show on earth to heavens heaven as written thru and thru true.

They show this or that and we shut our hearts door and say as written this or that.

Come quickly , render the skies, bring on the double day, avenge speedily, let it be against babel as written thru and thru true.

Babel and its false beliefs showings is chaff and not living like our sayings and shuttings.
Or call it our spiritual loosings and bindings as written thru and thru true.

Even the earth reacts to our shuttings and or sayings spiritual, and already is and the heavens as written thru and thur true.

And for them persecuting flogging etc even one of Yahs wise men, they have no jurisdiction over the righteous blood back to so and so , come upon their pate even from the b.c times also as written thru and thru true.

And for them despitfully using us, our cries enters the Mighty one of harvest ears as written thru and thru true,

Yahs name and the blood , loosed and binded rebukes them.

[Hesed]

Wow, just an excerpt, not even the whole context of the quote.

Typical libbies. What is "the ultimate aim?"

"ROBERTSON: That is the ultimate aim. And they talk about infidels and all this, but the truth is that’s what the game is. So you are dealing with not a religion. You’re dealing with a political system. And I think we should treat it as such and treat its adherences as such as we would members of the Communist Party or members of some fascist group. Well, it’s a tragedy. Our hearts go out to the families who suffered. But those in the Army should be held on account for the fact they let this man loose."

[Roseann Roseanna Danna]

Every Muslim in America should be shot on sight along with Napolitano being last so she can shit her pants while she waits her turn. The most fatal enemy the USA has is its own government ane democrats.

[Conservatarian]

That crap is meaningless propaganda. You aren't going to convince me that Israel is targeting women and children. The fact is that the scum bag muslim terrorist target Israel and then use the Palestinian women and children as human shields. Your trying to say that Jews are doing the same to the Palestinians that was done to them is an outright lie. In the end, it might not be a bad idea though. Since the Palestinian people are muslims, they are inferior to all other people. That is not a statement about their race, by the way. It's a statement about the evil cult that they are a part of.

Reality wrote:

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Well let's look at the other side of the coin,...
http://www.elmandjra.org/photos_holocaust.htm
http://judicial-inc.biz/99noti13.jpg
http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/middle_east/atr...
http://thewe.cc/weplanet/news/middle_east/atr...
http://www.countercurrents.org/kessel190309.h...
And there is much much more if you'd like.....

[Conservatarian]

Amen

Roseann Roseanna Danna wrote:

Every Muslim in America should be shot on sight along with Napolitano being last so she can shit her pants while she waits her turn. The most fatal enemy the USA has is its own government ane democrats.

[Conservatarian]

When is the last time that the Baptist went to war? You are obviously a short bus rider. Muslims are scum of the Earth and are not on par with any other religion there is. It should be wiped off the Earth, along with all the pc supporters of this dirty, monkey, religion.

Martha wrote:

Islam is just as much a religion as Baptists.
The only difference is that the Baptists go to war and kill people with Jesus blessing, the Muslims go with Allah's blessing.

[John Balsac]

I didn't know that old fart was still around spewing hatred and lies. Pat Robertson is the same as the Muslim terrorists. The real problem is that you have a bunch of ego-centric would-be tyrants utilizing an extreme form of religion to play to the sentiments and fears of the uneducated class for the sake of their benefit. Pat Robertson is Osama Bin Laden with a penchant for country music and Osama Bin Laden is Jerry Falwell with a towel on his head.

[centereach ny]

all religions are brainwashing cults christianity includede. islam is just the most extreme of these cults

[centereach ny]

oh and pat robertson is also just another lying sack of shit. he preaches his own brand of hate to brainwash the simple minds that hang on his every word....

[Sara]

Didn't the Patriots kill Jesus?

King Samuel wrote:

<quoted text> They hate Pat for the same reason the LEFTIES do. For the same reason they crucified the Son of God. For the same reason they WAGE WAR ON Zion. They(the children of darkness) are of the devil and they hate ALL THINGS GOD.

[Sara]

He's just like any televangelist. Did anyone ever see the movie "Elmer Gantry". I saw it many years ago but it changed my whole outlook on church and 'preachers'.
A 'preacher' should be a teacher as well and PR teaches only what he has been programmed to believe, and DOES!!

centereach ny wrote:

oh and pat robertson is also just another lying sack of shit. he preaches his own brand of hate to brainwash the simple minds that hang on his every word....

[Reality]

TexasProud wrote:

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Proof..Einstein told me.

Who told him?

Is that the same as asking yourself? Such as...'self I ask you now, is this a reality. waiting for answer..tic toc tic toc.....nope no answer yet, I'll try dialing 411.

[Reality]

Roseann Roseanna Danna wrote:

Every Muslim in America should be shot on sight along with Napolitano being last so she can shit her pants while she waits her turn. The most fatal enemy the USA has is its own government ane democrats.

SIEG HIEL.........HEIR FUROR

[Reality]

centereach ny wrote:

oh and pat robertson is also just another lying sack of shit. he preaches his own brand of hate to brainwash the simple minds that hang on his every word....

I'd like to see his bank statements.... like Bakers, Swaggert, Roberts and a few others who preach God as a business.

[Reality]

Sara wrote:

He's just like any televangelist. Did anyone ever see the movie "Elmer Gantry". I saw it many years ago but it changed my whole outlook on church and 'preachers'.
A 'preacher' should be a teacher as well and PR teaches only what he has been programmed to believe, and DOES!!<quoted text>

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[Arnold]

Reality wrote:

<quoted text>
Arnold talking to Arnold, now if that's not conclusive to asylum material then I don't know what is.... lol
When no one responds to your threads you have found a way to achieve a reponse...talk to yourself ....lol lol hahaha lmao...
You go girl

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And of course, the other Arnold is you. It's good to masquerade in the cause of Allah, right? You're being a good Muslim when you attempts ploys or deception. You should be proud, as obviously you must believe that Allah is proud of you or you wouldn't behave so disgracefully and dishonestly.