Medical marijuana dispensaries open doors

LAKEPORT About five to seven medical marijuana dispensaries opened their doors after the Lake County Board of Supervisors approved a temporary ordinance aimed at curbing the establishment of new dispensaries, an ordinance the board extended Tuesday.

[Concerned]

how sad that we soon might have more mj shops than gas stations in Lake County. do we really need more than one per town? they should not be in main shopping areas, more off the beaten path~people who need it will know where to go. anyone considered doing any undercover operation to make sure these dispenseries are following the rules?

[boomerangboy]

...given the effect they ultimately have on our earth, aren't the gas stations actually more of a threat? Think about it.

[MMJ patient]

I agree that for "medical needs" there could only been one shop in each town provided that the one shop dispenses quality product at a reasonable price. Right now with all the clubs up here on the lake there is only one, that's right one that is dispensing medical grade and that's out in the oaks, so quite the drive for me from lakeport but it's worth it to get medical grade.

Everyone else is profitting off a legitimate and profitable business model. Think about it. If you open up a restraunt chances are you're going out of business because people arent' eating out as much. If you open up a retail shop chances are you're going out of business because people aren't buying as much as they once were. The ONLY recession proof business is the pot club.

Now, I fully beleive in regulations being in place. Most of these club owners are just drug dealers with a legal front for their business. But the regulations need to not just be follow the law, but there needs to be regulations on quality of medicine. If every club was to be held to a quality standard for their medicine there would be alot less clubs, just based on the fact that there is more street grade marijuana out there being grown than the high quality medical grade. If you want to make this about the medicine and slow the growth you need to regulate quality as well as state law.

[Shagnasty]

The sky must be falling....I agree with Brown!

[harold]

Around $400 dollars a pound to grow the "medical grade" and they sell it for four to five thousand dollars a pound. That just does not seem to be all that compassionate to me.

[MIA]

In the Bay Area petitions are being filed to legalize MJ. I don't smoke, period, but there seems to be overwhelming evidence that marijuana helps a great many side effects of the current cancer treatments. Legalizing it means there would be more control and I honestly think alcohol for some people is much more dangerous than any other drug and it is readilty available. If there are people who have gone "off" with anger fits and are detached from the pain and suffering they inflict on others I don't hear about MJ being the culprit, but then I am probably misinformed. MJ apparently make some people incredibly lazy, but lazy doesn't usually kill someone like drunk (and our local corrupt LCSO is drunk a great deal of the time in the off duty) drivers do.
Bayer Aspirin started out as Bayer Heroin. Now THAT was an effective pain killer, but then people became aware that it was a little TOO effective and it went by the wayside of your five and dime drug store. We live and learn.

[MMJ patient]

MIA wrote:

In the Bay Area petitions are being filed to legalize MJ. I don't smoke, period, but there seems to be overwhelming evidence that marijuana helps a great many side effects of the current cancer treatments. Legalizing it means there would be more control and I honestly think alcohol for some people is much more dangerous than any other drug and it is readilty available. If there are people who have gone "off" with anger fits and are detached from the pain and suffering they inflict on others I don't hear about MJ being the culprit, but then I am probably misinformed. MJ apparently make some people incredibly lazy, but lazy doesn't usually kill someone like drunk (and our local corrupt LCSO is drunk a great deal of the time in the off duty) drivers do.
Bayer Aspirin started out as Bayer Heroin. Now THAT was an effective pain killer, but then people became aware that it was a little TOO effective and it went by the wayside of your five and dime drug store. We live and learn.

Alcohol and cigarettes are much more dangerous. But the pharmacutical companies and their lobbyists don't want pot legalized because they lose out. If you smoke pot and it helps you with pain and nausea and other conditions then what do you need the medical and pharmacutical field for. And another big thing to regarding legalization, it's always a bad idea to support a policy in which law enforcement and the cartels agree upon. That agreement is to keep pot illegal. If it were legalized look how much money the government would save on the costs of fighting pot and then the tax dollars that come in will help drastically. Legalizing it also gets rid of the medical dispensaries since safeway, walmart, brunos, braito's will all be able to carry it, so there will be no need for the dispensaries.

[Donna Christopher]

MMJ patient - would you agree that there should only be one pharmacy in each town? I'm surprised that a free market republican (RB) is so against free markets. The bottom line is just that - the bottom line, all government entities are just trying to figure out the politically correct way of getting their slice of the 'pot' pie.

boomerang boy - you hit that nail on the head - blood for oil is okay but compassionate use dispensaries gets argued about. Some days I fear most Americans will die simply because they were outside when it started to rain and they drowned due to staring at the sky whilst wondering what was happening.

[MIA]

Donna Christopher wrote:

MMJ patient - would you agree that there should only be one pharmacy in each town? I'm surprised that a free market republican (RB) is so against free markets. The bottom line is just that - the bottom line, all government entities are just trying to figure out the politically correct way of getting their slice of the 'pot' pie.
boomerang boy - you hit that nail on the head - blood for oil is okay but compassionate use dispensaries gets argued about. Some days I fear most Americans will die simply because they were outside when it started to rain and they drowned due to staring at the sky whilst wondering what was happening.

Dear Donna,
Yep, the turkeys that look up and drown when it is raining "thing"? I think you may be on to something there, but then I was pretty much home schooled by educated and loving people and was blessed with travel abroad.
The government getting a piece of the "pot" pie? Well, yes, and it's a hard call just how much government should be involved. It's give and take and our states are fighting for a piece of each pie in the MJ arena as well as all other facets. It's pretty discouraging how much there is NOT free IP. Some wonderful folks, though, never tire of rolling up their sleeves and when I get disappointed I look to them and they are hard at working for solutions. Then I realize that maybe the "turkey" factor can work in your favor if you have the power for change.
Our education system is lacking and has been by world standard, but maybe the internet can free up people to research on their own.
Medical MJ I know little about other than patients who say it is a real help to them. I don't think they have anything to lie about when they are phsically hurting and chose MJ over some of the other narcotic drugs. In some countries, like Peru, cocaine leaves are steeped in tea to counter the effects of altitude sickness and it is very effective. In Eduador iodine trees grow wild and the locals of course use it instead of antibiotics and ALSO brew it in tea for internal "problems". Iodine is the main ingredients in PolyMVA that is used in this country for treatment of many cancers and it is new research here. MJ? This needs to be investigated and testimonials compiled and well, we could actually have inmates do that! I wonder if Mitchell and Perdock and Mann and Hopkins are going to be word processing from behind bars. Hmmmm not a bad idea! Then they will have a better handle on what an inmate goes through once they are released IF they live through the experience. Maybe we ought to get them "outside" jobs. Safer for EVERYONE!
Have a great day. Thanks Donna, for your great posts. Always love reading them and feel encouraged that you are energetic and forward thinking. Kudos.

[MMJ patient]

Donna Christopher wrote:

MMJ patient - would you agree that there should only be one pharmacy in each town? I'm surprised that a free market republican (RB) is so against free markets. The bottom line is just that - the bottom line, all government entities are just trying to figure out the politically correct way of getting their slice of the 'pot' pie.
boomerang boy - you hit that nail on the head - blood for oil is okay but compassionate use dispensaries gets argued about. Some days I fear most Americans will die simply because they were outside when it started to rain and they drowned due to staring at the sky whilst wondering what was happening.

Yes i fully agree there should be 1 in each town, but you can only do that if they regulate the quality. Most of the pot out there is so gnarly it's hard to smoke.

[Cassandra]

is Lake County making this more complicated than it needs to be? There's more than one issue involved. Mendocino County seems to be addressing them separately.

http://www.ukiahdailyjournal.com/ci_13607378...

[angry american clo res]

we dont need any more legalized drug dealers in our county. the state should go ahead and tax the crap out of these pot heads, that would bring in a lot of tax dollars to the state instead of taxing to death us hard working non drug using folks. whats the state going to do when 75% of our population is on med. pot? the 25% that are still working cant pay all these taxes and still survive.
not to hard to figure out with a clear mind.

[Donna Christopher]

Let me be more specific MMJ patient - I meant Pharmacy as in Longs/CVS, Safeway pharmacy, Kmart pharmacy, Northlake Pharmacy and in Clearlake their multiple pharmacies. Are we free market capitalists or what?

Cassandra - this is Lake County, we always make things more difficult! Seems to be the preferred way to pass time around here ;-)

Always good to hear from you MIA, I also enjoy your postings so thanks right back at ya!

[MIA]

MMJ patient wrote:

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Yes i fully agree there should be 1 in each town, but you can only do that if they regulate the quality. Most of the pot out there is so gnarly it's hard to smoke.

Can't you grow a certain amount of your own if you have a permit? Wouldn't that help? Then you could regulate it I would think. Just thinking.(I don't know how much is really needed per person?!?!?)

[Duke]

MMJ patient wrote:

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Alcohol and cigarettes are much more dangerous. But the pharmacutical companies and their lobbyists don't want pot legalized because they lose out. If you smoke pot and it helps you with pain and nausea and other conditions then what do you need the medical and pharmacutical field for. And another big thing to regarding legalization, it's always a bad idea to support a policy in which law enforcement and the cartels agree upon. That agreement is to keep pot illegal. If it were legalized look how much money the government would save on the costs of fighting pot and then the tax dollars that come in will help drastically. Legalizing it also gets rid of the medical dispensaries since safeway, walmart, brunos, braito's will all be able to carry it, so there will be no need for the dispensaries.

MMJ Patient,
I do not agree with your statement regarding the how Marijuana is less dangerous then alcohol and cigarettes.

Some immediate physical effects of marijuana include a faster heartbeat and pulse rate, bloodshot eyes, and a dry mouth and throat. No scientific evidence indicates that marijuana improves hearing, eyesight, and skin sensitivity. Studies of marijuana's mental effects show that the drug can impair or reduce short-term memory, alter sense of time, and reduce ability to do things which require concentration, swift reactions, and coordination, such as driving a car or operating machinery.

Marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is found in tobacco smoke. Examination of human lung tissue that had been exposed to marijuana smoke over a long period of time in a laboratory showed cellular changes called metaplasia that are considered precancerous. In laboratory test, the tars from marijuana smoke have produced tumors when applied to animal skin. These studies suggest that it is likely that marijuana may cause cancer if used for a number of years.

There is convincing scientific evidence that marijuana causes psychological damage or mental illness in teenagers or adults. Some marijuana users experience psychological distress following marijuana ingestion, which may include feelings of panic, anxiety, and paranoia. Such experiences can be frightening. With very large doses, marijuana can cause temporary toxic psychosis.

[Donna Christopher]

Okay Duke, I'll bite - just how much is that 'very large dose'- don't you fall asleep before you can OD? If this is all you have for side effects it's pretty puny compared to the 4-6 pages of small print I get every time I pick up my Rx's at corporate pharmacies.

Cannabis more dangerous that alcohol & tobacco - I'll buy that right after I buy the Rodman Slough bridge. We're probably in more danger as far as lung disease goes with the disturbance of our serpentine soils.

[MMJ patient]

MIA wrote:

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Can't you grow a certain amount of your own if you have a permit? Wouldn't that help? Then you could regulate it I would think. Just thinking.(I don't know how much is really needed per person?!?!?)

To grow your own medicinal quality is expensive. You can't get that high of medicinal quality from an outdoor grow, so you have to go inside. There's lights, nutrients, pg&e then you have the heat problem around here during the summer months where if you don't run the ac to keep the temperture down then your plants will fry. It's several thousand dollars with everything included and a painstaking process to yield a quarter pound or so off each plant. Yes it makes more financial sense as opposed to purchasing small amounts but you have to have significant amounts of money every month

[f-bomb]

we should outlaw booze again, then I will buy a still and be like the Kennedys and become rich. Had I known I would lose my retirement in "safe" 401 k plans I would have invested in crack and meth to sell to children.

[Donna Christ]

Why do you think they call it dope? Ever watch who comes and gos at pot shops? The majority look like sixties hippie throwbacks. They have found a "legal" way to get their dope. No, it's NOT "medicine", a term the potheads like to throw around. It's a gateway drug that makes you dumb, lazy and stoned.

[pot head]

one quarter pound or so off each plant?