We don't need Lowe's

We don't need Lowe's

There are 147 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from Jan 18, 2010, titled We don't need Lowe's. In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

My family has been a contributing part of this community since the 1960s. I grew up in Clearlake, worked in my father's pharmacy as a teenager, and have witnessed the many changes our county has gone through over the past 40 years.

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San Francisco, CA

#170 Jan 19, 2012
Prove it. I myself have heard that sad lament now for over 30 years. I'm not a member and don't work for the Sierra Club. So keep that BS to yourself. It's the Sierra Clubs fault that some people are uneducated. It's the Sierra Clubs fault that greed outweighs need. It's the Sierra Clubs fault that some fat ass can't load up on Red Lobster. It's the Sierra Clubs fault there are no jobs here. Get serious, dream up a new name and try to address the problems not add to them.
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Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#171 Jan 20, 2012
Lmao. Look around you fool. Regular folks losing their homes, and those homes are being bought by speculators for pennies on the dollar.. Face it, the only way that the average working guy will be helped, is by allowing the creation of jobs.
You and your ilk are a large part of the problem....just like the enviro-nuts that oppose the Keystone pipeline. 50,000 plus American jobs forfeited at the hands of environuts/nobama.
A very sad state of affairs.
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San Francisco, CA

#172 Jan 23, 2012
You can't get anything right, can you?

Ever since, advocates of the pipeline have pressed the case that thousands of shovel-ready jobs are being delayed by the administration’s inaction, with House Republicans including a shortened timeline for a permit in legislation extending the payroll tax cut.
 We’ve repeatedly warned that many “job creation” statistics are often guesstimates of estimates, and should be viewed skeptically. By some accounts, the number of jobs that would be created could be as many as 150,000. But the State Department in August put the number of construction jobs at just 5,000 to 6,000.
 What’s going on here?
 
The Facts
 TransCanada Corp., which is pushing to build the pipeline, claims that  Keystone XL “was poised to put 20,000 Americans to work to construct the pipeline.” The company also cites another figure — 118,000 spin-off jobs Keystone XL would create through increased business for local restaurants, hotels and suppliers — that comes from a study commissioned by the company. The study even suggested that under “normal” oil price assumptions, the number of permanent jobs would top 250,000.
These statistics form the basis of most of the claims made about the jobs supposedly created by the pipeline. Caveat emptor: the company building the pipeline is obviously going to offer the rosiest scenario possible. One should especially view with a large grain of salt any study for which it paid good money.
 Juliet Eilpern and Steven Mufson of The Washington Post explored some of the problems with these numbers in an article last month, but their analysis apparently did not get enough attention. Here’s what they wrote:

A key question for the administration is how many jobs the Keystone XL project would create. TransCanada's initial estimate of 20,000 — which it said includes 13,000 direct construction jobs and 7,000 jobs among supply manufacturers — has been widely quoted by lawmakers and presidential candidates.

[TransCanada chief executive Russ] Girling said Friday that the 13,000 figure was "one person, one year," meaning that if the construction jobs lasted two years, the number of people employed in each of the two years would be 6,500. That brings the company's number closer to the State Department's; State says the project would create 5,000 to 6,000 construction jobs, a figure that was calculated by its contractor Cardno Entrix.
 People can reasonably disagree whether one should look at the overall size of the construction force — as the State Department did — or whether one should look at jobs per-person-per-year. Obviously, the second method can greatly increase the number of “jobs,” depending on the length of the project. TransCanada officials also argue that the State Department estimate was made before binding labor contracts were signed, which they suggest means the estimate could increase.
Opponents and proponents of the project have also disagreed over whether as many as 7,000 indirect supply chain jobs will be created.(That’s the rest of TransCanada’s 20,000 figure.) Much of that figure depends on where steel pipe will be fabricated, with opponents claiming that many of the jobs will actually be outside the United States.
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Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#173 Jan 24, 2012
The sierra club activists find every reason to stop job producing activity. The fact is that they have never produced or created a job for anyone.
They never provide solutions to the poor human condition in Lake County, just constant whining and complaints.
Lake County has a 20% unemployment rate.
Provocateur

San Francisco, CA

#174 Jan 24, 2012
And your crybaby whiny-assed opinion has been noted.
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Hidden Valley Lake, CA

#175 Jan 24, 2012
Lake County needs jobs........and I don't mind that you are the winner in any exchange of ideas between us.

the FACTS about enviro-nuts.
This is what happens to America when sierra club whackos run the show.

Obama kills 100,000 U.S. jobs
http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-pipeline-keyston...

Canada will look to China to sell its oil
http://articles.cnn.com/2012-01-18/americas/w...
Provocateur

San Francisco, CA

#176 Jan 25, 2012
Go back to the Ukiah forum with here is none. We still don't need a Lowes.

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