We don't need Lowe's

We don't need Lowe's

There are 147 comments on the Lake County Record-Bee story from Jan 18, 2010, titled We don't need Lowe's. In it, Lake County Record-Bee reports that:

My family has been a contributing part of this community since the 1960s. I grew up in Clearlake, worked in my father's pharmacy as a teenager, and have witnessed the many changes our county has gone through over the past 40 years.

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Shagnasty

Kelseyville, CA

#1 Jan 18, 2010
Many of the stores you mention were either already going out of business before Walmart went in OR were simply part of the ever changing landscape of retail sales.

Competition is good....the big box home improvement stores do not always have the best prices.
ULCA

Nice, CA

#2 Jan 19, 2010
Piedmont, Kelseyville Lumber, and Mendo Mill are overpriced and it would be nice to have Lowe's in Lake County. Not to mention after the loss of Konocti Harbor Resort, it would be nice to have those jobs!
1. Lake County can kiss the tourist destination goodbye, in 1930's the lake was beautiful and clean! Now - gross! The fish, DON'T EAT THE FISH! And they are not doing much to try to fix this situation.
2. Yeah, there's a waste of money, clean up Clear Lake... what do you propose they do with alot of the people that live there? Relocate them?
3. nuffsaid - um, you mean enough said?
Oh, by the way there are two colleges in Lake County, one of them is in Clear Lake.
James Hendersaon

United States

#3 Jan 19, 2010
Most moved here to avoid what you would like to give us.We are on the fast road to screw up what we have.
Ukiah is over the hill they have all that you would need. Unhappy? move!
Jack Tripper

North Hills, CA

#6 Jan 19, 2010
ukiah has *#$@......

Lowes rocks.(so does lake county, rocks of meth)

Maybe Lowes will do something about the bad smell of that largest lake in ca.......Tax $$$$ for a clean up maybe, but tax $$$$ for something.
I live in Clearlake

Alameda, CA

#7 Jan 19, 2010
Build it! Living in the Clearlake area is a huge disappointment. Seeing the local kids grow up, then move to welfare apartments is really sad. Having children to support themselves because there are no jobs, is the fault of the people in dream land that think that Lake County doesn't need jobs.
Enough Said

Lakeport, CA

#8 Jan 19, 2010
A hermit (from the Greek ἔρ&#951 ;μο&#962 ; ēremos, signifying "desert", "uninhabited", hence "desert-dweller"; adjective: "eremitic") is a person who lives to some greater or lesser degree in seclusion from society.

Folks! You have to understand the mindset of this writer and where they dwell.
No offense

Clearlake, CA

#9 Jan 19, 2010
No offense, but was Kelseyville Lumber thinking about saving other small businesses in Lake county when they built their new store? No they were not! They put in things like equipment rental and really hurt places like UCC Rentals and other long standing local businesses.
Hmm

Lakeport, CA

#12 Jan 19, 2010
I agree! We also moved to LC permanently for the same reasons. We lived in Napa where every large chain box store moved in. Slowly it's lost the same charm that people came to visit Napa valley for. Ungodly traffic, and the small business owners and their stores closed all over town.

After we moved here we realized that everything we needed could be found right here in LC. I still after 15 years have to remind my parents who also moved here, that they don't need to travel all day to SR, Ukiah, or Napa just to go to Home Depot.

It's just that everyone is brainwashed into thinking that these big box stores are better, when this is not always the case. This country is being attacked by big brother government who all have their fingers in the pots of these large corporations. They recently started attacking the nationwide chamber of commerce. Why? Because small business is the backbone of business in America, and they know it.

It's time we said no to these big box conglomerates and support your local business men, women, and families!
Clean Mean Bean

Clearlake, CA

#13 Jan 19, 2010
in my opinion a lot of people have cleaned their acts up, compared to 7/10 years ago.. there's closet tweaks everywhere.

skrew tweakers- they will go nowhere in life.
Hmm

Lakeport, CA

#14 Jan 19, 2010
I live in Clearlake wrote:
Build it! Living in the Clearlake area is a huge disappointment. Seeing the local kids grow up, then move to welfare apartments is really sad. Having children to support themselves because there are no jobs, is the fault of the people in dream land that think that Lake County doesn't need jobs.
If Clearlake is such a disappointment, why do you live there? After all these years your going to use Lowes as an excuse why nothing positive for your community has been done? Come ON! How many jobs do you think Lowes will bring? It's just one store. Yes a few will get a minimum wage job, but that's not going to fix the problems of the community! Where will that leave the other 99% of the unemployed in this community? Do you think they will be able to shop at Lowes? Families on welfare, food stamps, and unemployment are not going to be rushing down to Lowes to buy cheap foreign made crup for home improvements. They're more worried how to feed and clothes their families. Everyone needs to look beyond Lowes and look for real solutions for the systemic problems of this county and start there. Lowes is just a real shinny and glittery band aid, the community and it's leaders need to find what is causing the hemorrhage and fix that first.
After Six

Clearlake, CA

#15 Jan 19, 2010
Wouldn't it be nice to go to a store after 6 P.M. during the week and buy what you need for a weekend project.
Provocateur

San Francisco, CA

#16 Jan 19, 2010
Wouldn't it be nice to have money to pay the mortgage?
No2Reichwing

Kelseyville, CA

#17 Jan 19, 2010
You are right. We DON'T NEED Lowe's. Ukiah and Mendocino County are fighting over WHO gets the tax revenue from Cost co. I'm happy as a 10-15 year costco member, driving 2 times a month to Santa Rosa that Cost-Co is NOT coming to Lake County. If you're too lazy to drive out of county-then move the he!! back to your precious city. I left it in the 1970's and don't look back and as sure as he!! didn't want to bring it and all of it's trash with me. Let Ukiah deal with it, the traffic,sewage disposal, water use waste disposal, road maintenance road rage in THEIR urban sprawl they are creating and yes-the gangs who like to hang around big box stores can stay there too. NIMC!

Having shopped in the chain big box hardware stores (but not in the last year or so) I have found our local stores MUCH more useful, better products, definitely more knowledgeable staff, low cost or free delivery (vs $160 minimum for HD) and WAY better organized-especially Kelseyville Lumber-the dream store of all home improvement practitioners.
Hmm

Lakeport, CA

#18 Jan 19, 2010
After Six wrote:
Wouldn't it be nice to go to a store after 6 P.M. during the week and buy what you need for a weekend project.
Wouldn't that be a nice exchange for all the jobs lost by those employed in LC by local hardware stores when Lowes put them out of business? Enjoy your late night shopping with a clear conscience!
Hmm

Lakeport, CA

#19 Jan 19, 2010
No2Reichwing wrote:
You are right. We DON'T NEED Lowe's. Ukiah and Mendocino County are fighting over WHO gets the tax revenue from Cost co. I'm happy as a 10-15 year costco member, driving 2 times a month to Santa Rosa that Cost-Co is NOT coming to Lake County. If you're too lazy to drive out of county-then move the he!! back to your precious city. I left it in the 1970's and don't look back and as sure as he!! didn't want to bring it and all of it's trash with me. Let Ukiah deal with it, the traffic,sewage disposal, water use waste disposal, road maintenance road rage in THEIR urban sprawl they are creating and yes-the gangs who like to hang around big box stores can stay there too. NIMC!
Having shopped in the chain big box hardware stores (but not in the last year or so) I have found our local stores MUCH more useful, better products, definitely more knowledgeable staff, low cost or free delivery (vs $160 minimum for HD) and WAY better organized-especially Kelseyville Lumber-the dream store of all home improvement practitioners.
Exactly! After moving from Napa in an area where there was an explosion of these stores, I have to say it ruined the quaintness of the area and the traffic became horrible from then on out. There was constantly trash and shopping carts in our neighborhood from all the stores, Target, Raley's, Home Depot, Office Max, Taco Bell, McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Panda Express, Togo's, Starbucks, just to name a few. Once Target came in it was like a run away train.

After living there for over 20 years we moved to LC to find an easier way of life for us and our kids. Once you let Lowes in you'll open a pandora's box and say goodbye to clean air and light traffic. It use to take more time to drive across Napa than it does to drive from one town to another here in LC. There will be sacrifices for Lowes, they may not be evident at first, but slowly things will change for the worse. Is every one willing to make that trade off?
Cherie

Clearlake, CA

#21 Jan 19, 2010
The officials in this county are doing nothing to improve it! The lake stinks, the roads are full of craters, there are drugs EVERYWHERE and they WANT people to live in poverty. The only improvements they want are the size of their wallets! When I talk of where I live to pepole out of town, they think this place is a joke. We can't attract tourist with the reputaion of this area. We need improvement and at least Lowes can provide a few more people with JOBS and get the off of welfare!
Provocateur

San Francisco, CA

#22 Jan 20, 2010
http://www.staylocal.org/pdf/info/ThinkingOut... - by Civic Economics, September 2009
This study examined financial data from 15 locally owned businesses in New Orleans and compared their impact on the local economy to that of an average SuperTarget store. The study found that only 16% of the money spent at a SuperTarget stays in the local economy. In contrast, the local retailers returned more than 32% of their revenue to the local economy. The primary difference was that the local stores purchase many goods and services from other local businesses, while Target does not. The study concludes that even modest shifts in spending patterns can make a big difference to the local economy. If residents and visitors were to shift 10% of their spending from chains to local businesses, it would generate an additional $235 million a year in local economic activity, creating many new opportunities and jobs. Likewise, a 10% shift in the opposite direction - less spending at local stores and more at chains - would lead to an economic contraction of the same magnitude. Another noteworthy finding of the study is that locally owned businesses require far less land to produce an equivalent amount of economic activity. The study found that a four-block stretch of Magazine Street, a traditional business district, provides 179,000 square feet of retail space, hosts about 100 individual businesses, and generates $105 million in sales, with $34 million remaining in the local economy. In contrast, a 179,000-square-foot SuperTarget generates $50 million in annual sales, with just $8 million remaining in the local economy, and requires an additional 300,000 square feet of space for its parking lot. See our New Rules article for more background on this study.
Hmm

Lakeport, CA

#23 Jan 20, 2010
Cherie wrote:
The officials in this county are doing nothing to improve it! The lake stinks, the roads are full of craters, there are drugs EVERYWHERE and they WANT people to live in poverty. The only improvements they want are the size of their wallets! When I talk of where I live to pepole out of town, they think this place is a joke. We can't attract tourist with the reputaion of this area. We need improvement and at least Lowes can provide a few more people with JOBS and get the off of welfare!
How is Lowes going to attract tourism? And you think giving a few people a part time job but having many local business go under and all of their employees going on unemployment a solution?

And the size of whose wallets do you think Lowes will be lining to get their way?
JK -Clearlake

Clearlake, CA

#24 Jan 20, 2010
Hmm wrote:
This country is being attacked by big brother government who all have their fingers in the pots of these large corporations. They recently started attacking the nationwide chamber of commerce. Why? Because small business is the backbone of business in America, and they know it.
The Nat'l Chamber of Commerce has been under attack by many businesses, nationwide. Why? Because of the Natl Chamber/Commerce stand on environmental issues, EPA Clean Air Act.(google is your friend .. do the research).The chamber opposed the cap-and-trade climate bill that passed the House early last year. It has also fought against the Environmental Protection Agency's recent push to regulate greenhouse gases. The chamber spent nearly $92 million on lobbying last year alone! Why? To protect the very business that are the largest polluters and stripping our land!

The businesses that are joining forces with the Natl Chamber to fight the Clean Air Act are not small businesses! Here is a partial list:

American Forest & Paper Association
National Mining Association
The Aluminum Association
The American Coke & Coal Chemicals Institute
The American Iron and Steel Institute
The Associated General Contractors of America
JK -Clearlake

Clearlake, CA

#25 Jan 20, 2010
Cherie wrote:
The officials in this county are doing nothing to improve it! The lake stinks, the roads are full of craters, there are drugs EVERYWHERE and they WANT people to live in poverty. The only improvements they want are the size of their wallets! When I talk of where I live to pepole out of town, they think this place is a joke. We can't attract tourist with the reputaion of this area. We need improvement and at least Lowes can provide a few more people with JOBS and get the off of welfare!
I totally agree, Cherie! Tourist read the news about our lake and choose to vacation elsewhere .. Shasta, Tahoe. Our local gas stations jack up their prices to ridiculous rates to gouge the tourists, and wind up screwing the people that are their neighbors, the locals. And why can I buy gas 30/gal.cheaper in Lakeport than in Clearlake? They all get it from the same place!
Our Chambers, Council members, and local businesses do nothing to help resolve the problems with our lake, the roads, the store fronts, so please ... don't give me this crap about loyal to the local business owner! I have been here for 23 years. I try to shop local, but most businesses would rather let things rot on their shelves than sell at competitive prices. Piedmont, KV Lumber are outrageous in their prices. It's cheaper for me to buy from Home Depot in Ukiah and have them deliver. I can't wait for a Lowe's to open here! The author says Lowe's will pay low ... ask the people that work for the local businesses how much they get paid an hour. In case you hadn't noticed .. businesses are boarding up all over the county. We need the jobs! This is not the 1930's. Get over it. No matter how quaint you make Lake County, the lake still has major issues, our gas prices are insane, some of the resorts are total dumps, and that's what keeps the tourist away. Having a Lowe's is not the problem .. it's a solution.

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