Romney picked the wrong lottery ticket

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SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#1 May 23, 2013
During the Romney campaign, he stated concerning the ATVM Program that Telsa was one of the "losers".

Enter payback! Telsa is THE first to pay it's loan back to the Government of $465M . Telsa's leadership thanked the administration and Congress for having the faith, and, the taxpayers who footed the bill.

Go Telsa!

Ford of course has a long time to pay back and I'm sure that won't be an issue.
Balls

Madisonville, KY

#2 May 23, 2013
They don't have factories in the U.S.
No union and irs thugs to deal with.
Balls

Madisonville, KY

#3 May 23, 2013
Oh, and by the way, it's TeSla not telsa, you ignorant gorilla!
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#4 May 23, 2013
You might attempt to research it's 5,500,000 sq. ft. Fremont, Ca assembly plant for the Model S. I'm not sure if they have employees working though? lmao Please forgive me for inverting my letters in Tesla. My commendation medal goes to you for helping me with that 5-letter word. That's important stuff. At least you don't have to issue a 1099 for that! Not that you ever do for anything, right? Face it, Romney missed it...the great equity firm manager that he WAS. I guess he's losing his touch, so it's a good thing you didn't get him in the White House to "equitize" things. lol He'd have missed a tall boat on that one! But I bet he'd have done a good job taking that Federal loan, running the company into the ground, showing a positive bottom line due to interest writeoff and waltzing away with $35M in dividends as he did with the automotive-related company.

I might also make mention while I'm at it that Bernanke, not a Democrat or liberal of any nature and in fact, appointed by GWB and long been held as a Republican, has advised Congress to get the lead out of it's as-, stop hiding behind S/T deficit and failing to address unemployment in the short term and allow fiscal stimulus and a more sustainable balance in the long term. Did I mention he is a former Princeton Professor as well? He is first and foremost, an economist.

Balls, you better stick with driving your tractor. The hay can't talk back to you or absorb your lacking in worldly information.
Umm Hmm

Williamsburg, KY

#5 May 23, 2013
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmuller/2012/...

Well, Tesla's loan came through an alternative energy program started by the Bush administration not one of the Obama bailout loans. Also, Tesla's loan carried interest rates of only 1% to 3%, not the 7% to 14% the Obama administration charged the bailout companies.
Umm Hmm

Williamsburg, KY

#6 May 23, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
You might attempt to research it's 5,500,000 sq. ft. Fremont, Ca assembly plant for the Model S. I'm not sure if they have employees working though? lmao Please forgive me for inverting my letters in Tesla. My commendation medal goes to you for helping me with that 5-letter word. That's important stuff. At least you don't have to issue a 1099 for that! Not that you ever do for anything, right? Face it, Romney missed it...the great equity firm manager that he WAS. I guess he's losing his touch, so it's a good thing you didn't get him in the White House to "equitize" things. lol He'd have missed a tall boat on that one! But I bet he'd have done a good job taking that Federal loan, running the company into the ground, showing a positive bottom line due to interest writeoff and waltzing away with $35M in dividends as he did with the automotive-related company.
I might also make mention while I'm at it that Bernanke, not a Democrat or liberal of any nature and in fact, appointed by GWB and long been held as a Republican, has advised Congress to get the lead out of it's as-, stop hiding behind S/T deficit and failing to address unemployment in the short term and allow fiscal stimulus and a more sustainable balance in the long term. Did I mention he is a former Princeton Professor as well? He is first and foremost, an economist.
Balls, you better stick with driving your tractor. The hay can't talk back to you or absorb your lacking in worldly information.
So far Tesla has only sold 7,500 of their vehicles, even the Ford Edsel sold 68,000 in it's first year.

Time will tell...
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#7 May 23, 2013
Umm Hmm wrote:
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So far Tesla has only sold 7,500 of their vehicles, even the Ford Edsel sold 68,000 in it's first year.
Time will tell...
They showed a profit Qtr 1 and anticipate doing well Qtr. 2. I'll assume they are expensive cars and the wealthy can afford high priced cars. We have alot more millionaires and billionaires now than we had back in Edsel's day.

Whether they make it or not, which we should hope they do for the sake of employment, fact is, the loan is paid back. That's the point.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#9 May 23, 2013
Umm Hmm wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jo annmuller/2012/08/29/automaker s-report-card-who-still-owes-t axpayers-money-the-answer-migh t-surprise-you/
Well, Tesla's loan came through an alternative energy program started by the Bush administration not one of the Obama bailout loans. Also, Tesla's loan carried interest rates of only 1% to 3%, not the 7% to 14% the Obama administration charged the bailout companies.
Bush also started the Solyndra loan and tried his best to sign off on that one, but he ran out of office time and it was transferred onto Obama.

One if a bailout loan. The other, not a bailout. Each would not carry the same rate as the other no more than a credit card interest rate is equal to a bank loan or L/C.

The bailout recipient's had a choice...the Govt. loan, or, bankruptcy. They chose. As far as I'm concerned, they should have charged interest rates for bailout monies to some of them, more particularly banking, the same as credit card companies do for cash advances...some to the tune of 23.99% plus a processing fee. The bank bailouts were necessary, so sayeth Bush and Obama, but they also desserved getting it socked to 'em.
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#10 May 23, 2013
Yep....Romney picked the wrong ticket !
SpeakUp

Harwood Heights, IL

#12 Jun 5, 2013
Umm Hmm wrote:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jo annmuller/2012/08/29/automaker s-report-card-who-still-owes-t axpayers-money-the-answer-migh t-surprise-you/
Well, Tesla's loan came through an alternative energy program started by the Bush administration not one of the Obama bailout loans. Also, Tesla's loan carried interest rates of only 1% to 3%, not the 7% to 14% the Obama administration charged the bailout companies.
All the financial bailouts started under Bush. Actually when Obama inherited the throne, it was only a matter of choice of distribution.

It doesn't matter what interest rate Tesla had. They borrowed the money, Romney swore they wouldn't and....they did. Romney was WRONG, just as he was wrong about Jeep moving out of Ohio to China. Good thing Jeep's CEO put him in his place. When Ohio saw how he lied to them, scaring families working for a living, it was OBAMA.

You people have such a way of defeating yourselves and wear out alot of shoes falling over yourself constantly.
whatever

Chicago, IL

#13 Jun 6, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
During the Romney campaign, he stated concerning the ATVM Program that Telsa was one of the "losers".
Enter payback! Telsa is THE first to pay it's loan back to the Government of $465M . Telsa's leadership thanked the administration and Congress for having the faith, and, the taxpayers who footed the bill.
Go Telsa!
Ford of course has a long time to pay back and I'm sure that won't be an issue.
but that does not mean that our taxes will go back down. they done already hooked the taxpayer in with the lie now.
that libcrack for you.
Good observation

Houston, TX

#14 Jun 6, 2013
whatever wrote:
<quoted text>but that does not mean that our taxes will go back down. they done already hooked the taxpayer in with the lie now.
that libcrack for you.
That is a good observation. I have often wondered the same thing. If we the taxpayer supported and helped bail out the crooks on Wall St, and the auto industry, will our tax go back down after they are paid off?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_indus...
Blue Boy

Whitley City, KY

#15 Jun 6, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
You might attempt to research it's 5,500,000 sq. ft. Fremont, Ca assembly plant for the Model S. I'm not sure if they have employees working though? lmao Please forgive me for inverting my letters in Tesla. My commendation medal goes to you for helping me with that 5-letter word. That's important stuff. At least you don't have to issue a 1099 for that! Not that you ever do for anything, right? Face it, Romney missed it...the great equity firm manager that he WAS. I guess he's losing his touch, so it's a good thing you didn't get him in the White House to "equitize" things. lol He'd have missed a tall boat on that one! But I bet he'd have done a good job taking that Federal loan, running the company into the ground, showing a positive bottom line due to interest writeoff and waltzing away with $35M in dividends as he did with the automotive-related company.

I might also make mention while I'm at it that Bernanke, not a Democrat or liberal of any nature and in fact, appointed by GWB and long been held as a Republican, has advised Congress to get the lead out of it's as-, stop hiding behind S/T deficit and failing to address unemployment in the short term and allow fiscal stimulus and a more sustainable balance in the long term. Did I mention he is a former Princeton Professor as well? He is first and foremost, an economist.

Balls, you better stick with driving your tractor. The hay can't talk back to you or absorb your lacking in worldly information.
Dr. Tellalie,
You seem to have trouble with four letter words also "alot".
I'm sure people call you enough four letter words that you should be familiar.
So...funny!!! You start a thread and don't even know how to spell the topic but yet you want people to follow you! LOL
It would seem to be a small thing when it was found this morning the NSA are monitoring 120,000,000 people. The last administration to do this identified their target with yellow stars. PEOPLE YOU SHOULD BE WORRIED! Don't drink their Koolaid!!!
Blue Boy

Whitley City, KY

#16 Jun 6, 2013
Good observation wrote:
<quoted text>That is a good observation. I have often wondered the same thing. If we the taxpayer supported and helped bail out the crooks on Wall St, and the auto industry, will our tax go back down after they are paid off?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_indus...
Who will pay off that 17 trillion?
uh huh

Chicago, IL

#17 Jun 6, 2013
Blue Boy wrote:
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Who will pay off that 17 trillion?
those dumb libs keep saying thats bushes fault.
so i guess they will make the ones who elected bush..pay it off.
Blue Boy

Whitley City, KY

#18 Jun 6, 2013
uh huh wrote:
<quoted text>those dumb libs keep saying thats bushes fault.
so i guess they will make the ones who elected bush..pay it off.
The IRS spent 50 million on bogus trainings. The government obviously didn't get the memo that we are borrowing money from the Chinese. Yes, I know you will say its Bush's fault. Then why hasn't it been stopped under Obama's watch?
Ralph

London, KY

#19 Jun 6, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
During the Romney campaign, he stated concerning the ATVM Program that Telsa was one of the "losers".
Enter payback! Telsa is THE first to pay it's loan back to the Government of $465M . Telsa's leadership thanked the administration and Congress for having the faith, and, the taxpayers who footed the bill.
Go Telsa!
Ford of course has a long time to pay back and I'm sure that won't be an issue.
Was this revealed between two AP reporters on the phone to each other? DOJ

Did they sit around for 7 hours deciding a course of action? Benghazi

Maybe they were waiting to see if the IRS was going to put their competition out of business? IRS

same as above, Did Verizon give too much to Republicans? Verizon Scandal

You were mentioning something about a dude that ran for prez but lost? For you, that makes perfect sense.
Ralph

London, KY

#20 Jun 6, 2013
A GSA garage somewhere is sitting with 7498 Tesla abortions. Any bets? lol
lol

Houston, TX

#21 Jun 6, 2013
Ralph wrote:
A GSA garage somewhere is sitting with 7498 Tesla abortions. Any bets? lol
go figure.
Umm Hmm

Williamsburg, KY

#22 Jun 6, 2013
SpeakUp wrote:
<quoted text>
All the financial bailouts started under Bush. Actually when Obama inherited the throne, it was only a matter of choice of distribution.
It doesn't matter what interest rate Tesla had. They borrowed the money, Romney swore they wouldn't and....they did. Romney was WRONG, just as he was wrong about Jeep moving out of Ohio to China. Good thing Jeep's CEO put him in his place. When Ohio saw how he lied to them, scaring families working for a living, it was OBAMA.
You people have such a way of defeating yourselves and wear out alot of shoes falling over yourself constantly.
As I stated, Tesla was not one of the bailout companies. It was simply a recipient of a Bush administration alternative energy program loan. It is obviously easier for a growing, independent company to repay a 1% to 3% loan than be a financially struggling company saddled with repaying a 7% to 14% loan while at the same time being forced to operate under US government control due to their majority shareholder stake.

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