Petition For Prayer in Schools

Petition For Prayer in Schools

Posted in the Keavy Forum

First Prev
of 2
Next Last
exbuddy

United States

#1 Jun 28, 2013
I live in the 363 area and had a guy come around the other day trying to get signatures on a petition for Prayer In Schools. I think he said his name was Ray Moore. Anybody else seen or signed this?
Thanks,
Thomas Jefferson

London, KY

#2 Jun 28, 2013
Ray and anyone else that would even consider signing this petition needs to move to another country. Here in the United States we separate church and state for good reason. I don't know what makes it so difficult for people to understand the importance of this concept. What is does is it allows everyone to freely pursue their own religious beliefs without having others' beliefs imposed on them. It also protects those who do not believe from having religion forced upon them. Let me dumb it down for you.. it protects your Christian child from being led in prayer by a Muslim or Jew and gives you total control as a parent to indoctrinate your child in your own beliefs and not those of others. Do you get it?
whoa

Chicago, IL

#3 Jun 28, 2013
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Ray and anyone else that would even consider signing this petition needs to move to another country. Here in the United States we separate church and state for good reason. I don't know what makes it so difficult for people to understand the importance of this concept. What is does is it allows everyone to freely pursue their own religious beliefs without having others' beliefs imposed on them. It also protects those who do not believe from having religion forced upon them. Let me dumb it down for you.. it protects your Christian child from being led in prayer by a Muslim or Jew and gives you total control as a parent to indoctrinate your child in your own beliefs and not those of others. Do you get it?
it wont protect us from muslims because they are taking over. and they force their religion on others with real violence to the death.
if you dont kneel to allah, you will be beheaded.
http://boudicabpi.wordpress.com/2013/06/09/th...

persecution.com
exbuddy

United States

#4 Jun 28, 2013
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
Ray and anyone else that would even consider signing this petition needs to move to another country. Here in the United States we separate church and state for good reason. I don't know what makes it so difficult for people to understand the importance of this concept. What is does is it allows everyone to freely pursue their own religious beliefs without having others' beliefs imposed on them. It also protects those who do not believe from having religion forced upon them. Let me dumb it down for you.. it protects your Christian child from being led in prayer by a Muslim or Jew and gives you total control as a parent to indoctrinate your child in your own beliefs and not those of others. Do you get it?
Excuse ME Mr. Jefferson, but I didn't say a damn thing about signing it I just asked if anyone else had been asked to THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!! Take your opinion and go shove it off on somebody else, I am not interested.
uuummm

London, KY

#5 Jun 28, 2013
exbuddy wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse ME Mr. Jefferson, but I didn't say a damn thing about signing it I just asked if anyone else had been asked to THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!! Take your opinion and go shove it off on somebody else, I am not interested.
If you are not interested in the opinion of others you may want to reconsider posting on a public forum.
exbuddy

Seneca, PA

#6 Jun 28, 2013
uuummm wrote:
<quoted text>
If you are not interested in the opinion of others you may want to reconsider posting on a public forum.
I wasn't asking for any opinions when I started this discussion, I was just asking if anyone had been around trying to get a petition signed.........geezeeeee...... I guess if I had started a discussion on how many times I went to the bathroom every day you would have a problem with that also. As far as my not liking what Mr. Jefferson wrote, I don't care whether they put prayer back in school or not, personally, I think prayer belongs at home and in church, BUT, that is just MY opinion. I wouldn't even dream about forcing it on someone else.
uuummm

London, KY

#7 Jun 28, 2013
exbuddy wrote:
<quoted text>
I wasn't asking for any opinions when I started this discussion, I was just asking if anyone had been around trying to get a petition signed.........geezeeeee...... I guess if I had started a discussion on how many times I went to the bathroom every day you would have a problem with that also. As far as my not liking what Mr. Jefferson wrote, I don't care whether they put prayer back in school or not, personally, I think prayer belongs at home and in church, BUT, that is just MY opinion. I wouldn't even dream about forcing it on someone else.
No, I don't have a problem with it. I am just saying that when you post on a public forum that anyone in the world can post on, you should not be upset when people post their opinions even when you did not ask for them.

You mentioned prayer in school, petition, a man by name, a road...expect comments on any and all and more.

And you really should not throw someone's name out there just to get something started on them. Way uncool dude.
Thomas Jefferson

London, KY

#8 Jun 28, 2013
exbuddy wrote:
Anybody else seen or signed this?
Thanks,
In your question you imply that you signed the petition! Otherwise you should have said, "Has anybody ELSE seen this or has anybody signed this?" or "Has anybody see this or signed this?" You essentially said "has anybody else signed this?"

My main gripe is that a US citizen would go around getting a petition signed to promote their own personal religious agenda. I am glad you didn't sign it but you don't have to be so nasty about it when you are the one that clearly misspoke
Thomas Jefferson

London, KY

#9 Jun 28, 2013
exbuddy wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse ME Mr. Jefferson, but I didn't say a damn thing about signing it I just asked if anyone else had been asked to THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!! Take your opinion and go shove it off on somebody else, I am not interested.
If you do not want a conversation then do not start one!
darn

Houston, TX

#10 Jun 28, 2013
Thomas Jefferson wrote:
<quoted text>
If you do not want a conversation then do not start one!
you and your exbuddy, and your ummmmm are all the same so you can keep your thread alive.
dont worry. bugs bunny was one of the cast of 1000,s.
mel blanc my man.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSS

Henderson, NV

#13 Jul 1, 2013
Sick that my kids are not allowed to pray in school and gays are allowed to march and stick tongues down each others throats in public
uuummm

London, KY

#14 Jul 1, 2013
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS wrote:
Sick that my kids are not allowed to pray in school and gays are allowed to march and stick tongues down each others throats in public
Who told your kids that they could not pray at school!?!

They most certainly can!

I saw that one of the schools has at least three Christian clubs and, a couple of years ago at least, the high schools had a club where students met at the flag pole for prayer before class.

Kids can pray anytime that does not interrupt class. They can pray before meals. They can read their Bible any time they are allowed free time or to read other books.
Thomas Jefferson

London, KY

#16 Jul 2, 2013
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS wrote:
Sick that my kids are not allowed to pray in school and gays are allowed to march and stick tongues down each others throats in public
welcome to America, the home of the free. please feel free to leave if you don't like it!

your kid can pray all day in school and when he is an adult he can stick his tongue down any other consenting adult's throat he wishes

sounds like you and your kid need to start praying at home in hopes that he will not grow up to be a bigot like his father.
God

Middlesboro, KY

#17 Jul 4, 2013
Be careful what you pray for: you just might get it. Kidding! You won't get it.
idiotpeople

Shelbyville, TN

#18 Jul 4, 2013
When I was young we peayed in school and said the pledge at the start if every school day. Of course back then you didn't have all the school shootings and violence that is in schools now! If a group of kids started prayer and met in the front foyer at a certain time every morning, that would be great! Sadly, parents these days dont pray, dont believe in God, do drugs, sell drugs, get arrested numerous rimes, so obviously they dont care about prayer...for sone kuds the only place they will learn about God and living right and not to do drugs and steal is at school! I am proud to say that I signed it and would love to see prayer in school! Obviously if your child dont want to do it, they wont be forced!!!!!
uuummm

London, KY

#19 Jul 4, 2013
idiotpeople wrote:
When I was young we peayed in school and said the pledge at the start if every school day. Of course back then you didn't have all the school shootings and violence that is in schools now! If a group of kids started prayer and met in the front foyer at a certain time every morning, that would be great! Sadly, parents these days dont pray, dont believe in God, do drugs, sell drugs, get arrested numerous rimes, so obviously they dont care about prayer...for sone kuds the only place they will learn about God and living right and not to do drugs and steal is at school! I am proud to say that I signed it and would love to see prayer in school! Obviously if your child dont want to do it, they wont be forced!!!!!
The good old days were not as good for everyone as they were for you. You know, back when blacks could not attend white schools whether they prayed or not.

Do you seriously not think that a parent should have the right to choose what if any religion their child should be taught? You want the government to decide? Do you think an atheist teacher should be forced to lead prayer and teach their slant on the Bible. Or that a child whose parents did not want them to participate should be singled out and told to leave the class so the 'good' children can pray?

Crazy, is what that is.
WKTrain

Paducah, KY

#20 Jul 6, 2013
Be careful about signing anything. Several years ago somebody came around where I lived then trying to get people to sign some kind of religion-based petition. It turned out to be a scam. They had little cards or slips for people to sign. An elderly relative of mine signed one and it turned out to be a slip that allowed some kooky "church" to take money out of his checking account every month. I don't know the details of how the scammers found out all the info to do it, but they withdrew an odd amount (something over $50 a month) for nearly a year. It went on until the old man got sick and his son started handling his finances and found out that the withdrawals were taking place.
Prayer

Annville, KY

#21 Jul 6, 2013
Yes I think they should be prayer back in school, and whoever posted about blacks couldn't be in s white schools well whites wasn't aloud in blacks school either. If I remember correctly they was white slaves just as they was black slaves. I would like to have prayer back in schools. Have the students that want pray meet each morning in the gym or lunch room and pray. The ones that don't want to pray stay in their class room. The ones that posted on here when you was in school did they have prayer then? If so what did it hurt?

“It is what it is, folks!!”

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#22 Jul 6, 2013
I would be happy with the Pledge of Allegiance being honored again as it should be.
INCLUDING the phrase "... under God".

(The original Pledge did not include that part, per history accounts. It was inserted in 1948 or thereabout).

Reciting the Pledge of Allegiance every morning at the start of school did nothing to ruin my childhood, nor did it turn any of us into ax murderers as far as I'm aware. We said the Pledge with pride back then.
AND WE ALSO INCLUDED AND RECITED THEE PHRASE 'ONE NATION, UNDER GOD'....

I was proud of our Pledge back then, even as a kid.
I'm proud of it now.

What we have done is slowly allowed the pride in our country to slip away. All thanks to groups who want to ignore and deny history, religion, rights and privilege.. We have a generation now who don't care to break the law, hurt other people, or be productive citizens.

Once discipline was removed, we removed the added benefit of respect as well. And I don't care what anyone says, if you don't honor, you don't know how to respect.

If a student does NOT want to recite the Pledge, OR prayer, they have a right not to participate. Those who DO choose to participate should have the right to do so while the others stand idly by...

We have created a generation of young adults who have no respect and no pride for what our Nation was built on. In essence, they also have no fear of the law or actually BEING disciplined because there IS NO discipline allowed any more!

And this trend continues, only getting worse as we go.

Those are my personal feelings and I'm sticking to them.
uuummm

London, KY

#23 Jul 6, 2013
Prayer wrote:
Yes I think they should be prayer back in school, and whoever posted about blacks couldn't be in s white schools well whites wasn't aloud in blacks school either. If I remember correctly they was white slaves just as they was black slaves. I would like to have prayer back in schools. Have the students that want pray meet each morning in the gym or lunch room and pray. The ones that don't want to pray stay in their class room. The ones that posted on here when you was in school did they have prayer then? If so what did it hurt?
"Whites wasn't allowed in blacks school either." LOL, really!

Yes, we had teacher lead prayer and Bible verses when I was in school. As far as I know, it did no harm at my school. That was because it was a very small rural school and about all of our parents claimed at least a Christian background. It is not that way today.

BUT>>>>>> >>>>>Children can pray in groups before class now!!! How many times do I have to say this!?!? They can do it now! If you are a Christian, teach your kids to pray and get together with others and let them form a club or group and they can meet at times when any other groups have the freedom to gather and they can pray during that time...RIGHT NOW! No laws have to be passed. Nothing has to change. They can do it NOW!

The school should not be able to decide which religion your child may participate in...that is your job!

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker
First Prev
of 2
Next Last

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Keavy Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
add a word--drop a word (Apr '10) 3 min burp 1,235
Question about reflective red, yellow, blue, an... (Nov '12) 1 hr sheep dog 111
Little Learners Educational Center 1 hr curious 3
Apartments in London (Feb '14) 3 hr non 11
A question about Walmart drug tests? (Jun '11) 4 hr Rafa 15
anybody working for smithfield packaging in mid... 4 hr meee 3
who do girl like more country boys or city boys? (Oct '08) 4 hr allessior 1,012
More from around the web

Personal Finance

Keavy Mortgages