Republican War Against Women Continues
Right to Life

Hopkinsville, KY

#232 Apr 26, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
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God being in a personal relationship with you must be the reason he's too busy to prevent the 56,916 forcible rapes per month and the millions of other violent crimes each year.
I never mentioned God. You must have a real hangup about religion.

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#233 Apr 26, 2013
Last night a guy posted something to me on one of my threads. He was quoting things written by Dr Henry Makow. The poster and the article by Makow used both political and religious things to diss women seeking their rights. The name Henry Makow sounded familiar to me (maybe from something I read by him while I was at UK) so I hunted up some things he had written over the last few years. Here is his view of women being the property of men in the middle-eastern nations where sharia rules .....

"The role of woman is at the heart of any culture. Apart from stealing Arab oil, the impending war in the Middle East is about stripping Arabs of their religion and culture, exchanging the burka for a bikini. I am not an expert on the condition of Muslim women and I love feminine beauty too much to advocate the burka here. But I am defending some of the values that the burka represents for me. For me, the burka represents a woman's consecration to her husband and family. Only they see her."

Dr Makow is a Christian. But likes how men view and own women in sharia ruled countries. He also likes how obedient and subservient women are taught to be over there.

Obedience and control of women seems to be a common denominator within far too many religions, particularly those that attempt to use law and government to control women.

And they always use their religion as justification in seeking to control others. Be it Christian or Islamic.

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#234 Apr 26, 2013
Right to Life wrote:
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I never mentioned God. You must have a real hangup about religion.
We all know where your head is. Whenever religious drumbeaters hear the term women's rights they 'always' and without fail attempt to turn the thread into an anti-abortion thread. They're worse than fruitloops attempting to yell 'guns' even on threads such as this one. A couple pages back I saw where one has done that.
Right to Life

Hopkinsville, KY

#235 Apr 26, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
Before the election I posted a thread with a list of some of the attacks the Republican Party was making against us. If anyone wishes to read it I'll post the link.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/london-ky/TC6...
But the fact that their attacks on our (women's) rights cost them the election the Republican Party hasn't learned a thing from it. It's continuing.
Since the election another Republican leader has said we cannot become pregnant from rape.
Now there is this .....
A New Mexico Republican bill would criminalize abortions after rape ..... get this one ..... as 'Tampering With Evidence'.
It would legally require rape victims to carry their pregnancies to term in order to use the fetus as evidence for a rape trial.
The bill would add this as a new section to the law covering tampering with evidence .....
"Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime."
Notice also there is 'no' exclusion for children impregnated by rape or incest, or for pregnancies which could for health reasons endanger the life of the rape victim.
YOU began this thread with a rant about abortion!

Since: Sep 09

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#236 Apr 26, 2013
Now back to the thread issue. Anyone wishing to discuss abortion feel free to start an anti-abortion thread or move to the top one of the hundreds of old ones.
Right to Life

Hopkinsville, KY

#237 Apr 26, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
Now back to the thread issue. Anyone wishing to discuss abortion feel free to start an anti-abortion thread or move to the top one of the hundreds of old ones.
You claim that you want to talk about women's rights, but the only "right" you seem really interested in is the "right" to MURDER unborn babies.

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#238 Apr 26, 2013
To refresh the topic. In only the last week and a half these things were stated or done by Republicans.

Tuesday, Steve Kush, a Republican in New Mexico, spoke about Chelsey Evans (a 19 year old state director for 'Working America' which is a labor group). One of Working America's projects is seek to increase minimum wage paid by county governments in New Mexico. Kush called her 'a radical bitch'. He went on to state "Uh oh, another 'Working America' chick...nice boots...I know she makes more than min wage". He then added, "She was hot enough to almost make me register democrat."

In New Hampshire, Republican State Representative Peter Hansen made a statement in reference to a speech (a speech relating to the gun debate) given by another lawmaker. Hansen stated this .....

"What could possibly be missing from those factual tales of successful retreat in VT, Germany, and the bowels of Amsterdam? Why children and vaginas of course. While the tales relate the actions of a solitary male the outcome cannot relate to similar situations where children and women and mothers are the potential victims."

It seems we're now only vaginas. That's more sexist and denigrating than Republican Jon Huntsman calling us 'bimbos'.

“We’ve got real issues to talk about, not the latest bimbo eruption.”
~~ Republican Jon Huntsman

Oddly, I'm becoming use to having Republican leaders calling us sexist things. They do it so often.

A Republican aide and intern in the last Presidential election has been arrested this week for anonymously contacting and attempting to blackmail (or extort) fifteen women, many of them college students, by threatening to post nude photos of them online and forward the photos to their family and friends if they didn't take more nude photos of themselves and send them to him.
GOP

Morehead, KY

#239 Apr 26, 2013
Right to Life wrote:
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YOU began this thread with a rant about abortion!
Yes she did and now she can't stand the heat and wants to change the subject.

“Gods Curse On Lazy Hillbillies”

Since: Jun 12

Dale City, VA

#240 Apr 27, 2013
Right to Life wrote:
The liberals want to cast this as a "women's rights" issue, but it is not. It is about abortion, the killing of unborn children. We will not rest until the following amendment becomes a part of the U.S. Constitution:
Section 1. The paramount right to life is vested in each human being from the moment of fertilization without regard to age, health, or condition of dependency.
Section 2. With respect to the right to life, the word 'person,' as used in this article and in the fifth and fourteenth articles of amendment to the Constitution of the United States, applies to all human beings, including their unborn offspring at every stage of their biological development, irrespective of age, health, function, or condition of dependency.
Section 3. No abortion shall be performed by any person except under and in conformance with law permitting an abortion to be performed only in an emergency when a reasonable medical certainty exists that the continuation of pregnancy will cause the death of the mother and requiring that person to make every reasonable effort, in keeping with good medical practice, to preserve the life of her unborn offspring.
Section 4. The Congress and the several States shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation within their respective jurisdictions.
Are You Saying It's About Life and Death....And Not Women's Rights????....
GOP

Morehead, KY

#241 Apr 27, 2013
CNSNews.com )– President Barack Obama praised the Planned Parenthood Federation of America for saving lives and helping women and families in a 12-minute, 3-second speech on Friday, which was enough time for 7.6 abortions to take place at Planned Parenthood clinics, based upon the abortion data in their latest annual report.

According to that annual report for 2011-2012, Planned Parenthood and its affiliated clinics performed 333,964 abortions in fiscal 2011. That averages one abortion every 94 seconds.
GOP

Morehead, KY

#242 Apr 27, 2013
On Planned Parenthood’s Web site, the very first category under Health on the navigation bar is Abortion.

WillyP

Bowling Green, KY

#243 Apr 28, 2013
The unspeakable horror and depravity that abortion truly is will be a stain on our nation's history. What we did to blacks and native Americans is insignificant compared to murdering millions of our own children. How any sane person can justify this practice is beyond my ability to comprehend.
Ralph

London, KY

#244 Apr 28, 2013
WillyP wrote:
The unspeakable horror and depravity that abortion truly is will be a stain on our nation's history. What we did to blacks and native Americans is insignificant compared to murdering millions of our own children. How any sane person can justify this practice is beyond my ability to comprehend.
They convince themselves the babies are all white male conservative.
WillyP

Bowling Green, KY

#245 Apr 28, 2013
Ralph wrote:
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They convince themselves the babies are all white male conservative.
Maybe so, that would justify almost anything in left-wing eyes.

BTW, have you noticed that there are Hitler/Goebbels adherents on here? Any post that criticizes the slaughter of innocents immediately gets judged harshly.
WillyP

Bowling Green, KY

#246 Apr 28, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
It seems we're now only vaginas. That's more sexist and denigrating than Republican Jon Huntsman calling us 'bimbos'.
“We’ve got real issues to talk about, not the latest bimbo eruption.”
~~ Republican Jon Huntsman
Apparently you didn't learn much political history while at UK. Do you have a clue where and when that term originated? Hint: James Carville, the Democrat campaign consultant for Bill Clinton during the first Clinton presidential campaign.
Veteran

Dexter, MO

#247 Apr 28, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
Another observation ..... who most is opposing the new military policy permitting women to defend their own nation? The Conservatives.
I am a Marine Veteran and I can't let this go on...Nothing against women in combat support...I do have a problem with women on front line combat...And no conservative American will agree to killing infants like your precious planned parenthood...They are baby-killers, plain and simple...
Veteran

Dexter, MO

#248 Apr 28, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
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God being in a personal relationship with you must be the reason he's too busy to prevent the 56,916 forcible rapes per month and the millions of other violent crimes each year.
Does that give anyone the right to kill 300,000 infants a year???

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#249 May 1, 2013
Here's a bit of the recent history of the war against terrorism.

Last year the CIA for the first time released the names of some of the CIA agents who have been killed in the line of duty. In the past they only put anonymous stars on the wall of the lobby of the CIA headquarters. They gave fifteen names of agents killed ..... six of the fifteen killed were women agents.

Relating to this is an article I come across about an hour ago. My post following this one is one of my few cut and pastes (I usually prefer to write my own things, but I like this news article).

Since: Sep 09

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#250 May 1, 2013
In Kathryn Bigelow’s movie “Zero Dark Thirty,” Jessica Chastain played Maya, a young CIA operative whose stubborn pursuit of Osama bin Laden played a major role in the al-Qaida leader’s death.

The film garnered both awards (including a Golden Globe for Chastain) and controversy—largely because of graphic scenes depicting the CIA’s use of torture on suspected terrorists. But an undisputed—and to some, surprising—revelation in the film was its disclosure of the key role a female CIA agent played in the search for bin Laden.

Now a new documentary goes further—making clear it wasn’t just one female CIA operative relentlessly searching for bin Laden, as Bigelow’s dramatization suggests, but rather a whole team of women who began sounding the alarm about the al-Qaida leader almost a decade before the 9/11 attacks made bin Laden a household name.

“Manhunt,” which premieres Wednesday on HBO, tries to tell what director Greg Barker describes as “the real story” behind the 20-year hunt for bin Laden. It includes interviews with several members of the so-called Sisterhood, as the team of female analysts assigned to track bin Laden came to be known within the CIA.

Many of those interviewed, including retired agents Nada Bakos, Cindy Storer and Barbara Sude, speak on camera for the first time about their role in the bin Laden pursuit. And all, in some ways, appear to have inspired the female heroine of “Zero Dark Thirty,” from their headstrong efforts to convince colleagues that bin Laden was a serious threat to their fight to be taken seriously by male colleagues amid job pressures that came to dominate their lives.

Storer began tracking bin Laden in the early 1990s—“when al-Qaida was denying its existence even to its friends,” she says in the film. With tears in her eyes, she recalls how she was criticized in a performance review for “spending too much time working on bin Laden.”

“They said we were obsessed crusaders, overly emotional,” Storer recalls. The difference between her and her male colleagues, she says, is “Men throw chairs, women cry.” Still, she admits,“We were borderline obsessed, but I thought it was for a good reason.”

She recalls how she and her colleagues passed around large containers of Tums as they watched increasingly disturbing videos that suspected members of bin Laden’s network posted online—cataloging details in what was becoming a large dossier on al-Qaida.

“It wasn’t the sexiest job,” Bakos said in an interview with Yahoo! News. But she said it was a position that showed how important women are to the CIA. As analysts, she said,“women have patience and perseverance.” She added:“They weren’t looking for the sexy payoff. This wasn't a job people were being promoted to. They were really looking at it as in the defense of our country.”

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#251 May 1, 2013
(the second part of the article)

Only after bin Laden began to be more explicit in his threat to attack the United States was their intelligence taken seriously. But despite clues analysts had that “something big” was coming, they weren’t able to prevent the 9/11 attacks. And the film details the guilt that Storer and her colleagues felt in the aftermath, as they trudged forward in their search.

Bakos, a veteran CIA analyst sent to Iraq at the height of the war to track down al-Qaida leaders there, seems to be a major inspiration for the Maya character in “Zero Dark Thirty”—though she said in an interview she never talked to Bigelow or anyone else associated with the film.

As part of her duties, Bakos was required to go on raids in search of her target, Abu Musab Zarqawi, then the leader of al-Qaida. It was a role that made her uncomfortable, as she recounts in the film, leading viewers to believe she, like Maya, struggled with seeing the sometimes brutal results of intelligence-gathering in the field.

But the film does not take a moral position on the CIA's interrogation efforts—and Bakos says that’s one reason she decided to speak out about her history as part of the bin Laden hunt. The film, she said, keeps it “politically agnostic and lets the audience decide for themselves” about the CIA’s tactics.

Bakos praised “Zero Dark Thirty” for portraying the “moments of intensity” that came during the CIA’s search for bin Laden and described the film’s depiction of “bureaucratic frustrations” as accurate. But she said Bigelow’s film did not fully communicate the “nuances of intelligence” that she and other analysts on the al-Qaida trail dealt with—and continue to deal with today. And she said it failed to focus on how much of the search was conducted by a "whole team of people" working together under the intense pressure of preventing another terrorist attack.

Bakos said she hopes people will gain a better understanding about national security and how the CIA works.

“Intelligence is only as good as the information gathered," Bakos said. "There’s no crystal ball. And there’s no 100 percent.... You cannot, 100 percent of the time, prevent or predict everything that will happen.”

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