What Should Be Done About Gun Violence?

What Should Be Done About Gun Violence?

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#1 Jan 15, 2013
What can be done to reduce gun violence? All I have heard from the Conservatives and gun-nuts is 'oppose gun laws'. Plus, their cry of 'buy more guns'.

But other than those two things they have said 'nothing'.

This is a first-world high-tech nation with a vast resource for handling problems. But yet our streets are dangerous. It shouldn't be like this.

I'm waiting for their ideas on reducing gun violence. I wonder if any will address this in any way other than repeating those two things over and over.
ReallyIII

Houston, TX

#2 Jan 15, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
What can be done to reduce gun violence? All I have heard from the Conservatives and gun-nuts is 'oppose gun laws'. Plus, their cry of 'buy more guns'.
But other than those two things they have said 'nothing'.
This is a first-world high-tech nation with a vast resource for handling problems. But yet our streets are dangerous. It shouldn't be like this.
I'm waiting for their ideas on reducing gun violence. I wonder if any will address this in any way other than repeating those two things over and over.
Send all the Liberal Pigs to Devils Island.

SATAN_64

“Walk With Me In Hell”

Since: Nov 11

Hell, Norway

#3 Jan 15, 2013
___Jenny___ wrote:
What can be done to reduce gun violence? All I have heard from the Conservatives and gun-nuts is 'oppose gun laws'. Plus, their cry of 'buy more guns'.
But other than those two things they have said 'nothing'.
This is a first-world high-tech nation with a vast resource for handling problems. But yet our streets are dangerous. It shouldn't be like this.
I'm waiting for their ideas on reducing gun violence. I wonder if any will address this in any way other than repeating those two things over and over.
You will never completely fix the problem. Banning guns isn`t the answer though, because then they will get on the internet and learn how to build bombs and kill even more people.

The problem is respect and values are not being taught to the past couple generations youth. They have grown up in a Stone Cold Steve Austin era, where you take what you want.

Educate the dumbasses and watch things change.
hehe

London, KY

#4 Jan 15, 2013
Gun OWNERSHIP laws
Lock em up People !

These wack-jobs are simply picking up guns that are lying around everywhere.
The nut case in Connecticut is a PRIME example.
His own Mother knew he was capable of this but never took the precaution to SECURE her weapons.

Last week my friends asked why we didn't bring our children around... I didn't answer him, but the TRUTH is, They have a loaded shotgun in their kitchen and a loaded 357 on the their dresser.

OWERS SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY !!!
the shootings in Paducah, KY several years ago - young kids stole their grandfathers loaded unsecured guns.

It's a damn shame that grown people are allowed to buy and own guns without a clue how to keep, maintain, secure and safeguard their weapons !

hehe
education and safety classes are essential to my argument
Real Truth

Tampa, FL

#5 Jan 15, 2013
Jenny your hatred and discriminations sort of keep out the truth.
January 11, 2013
GUN CONTROL: LIBERAL LEFT LIES AND OTHER CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM http://www.onecitizenspeaking.com/2013/01/gun...
The sad fact that politicians are not held accountable for their actions, either during office or after leaving office is deeply disturbing. In the absence of any consequences for selling your fellow Americans out to the international socialists or communists, they escape being held accountable for the death, destruction and despair they often leave behind.
The truth is that law enforcement is responsible for protecting the institution of government and government workers in the process of keeping societal order and providing for “general welfare” of its citizens and constituents. The government has no accountability for the loss of life or property nor does it have any legal responsibility to protect any ordinary citizen or their property. The “authorities” cannot be everywhere they are needed, when they are needed.
A fact recognized by our Founding Fathers who wrote the constitution not only enumerating what the federal government was allowed to do, but to specify that all other powers belonged to the states or individuals. And when it came to individuals, they recognized man’s unalienable right to freedom and self-defence. The Second Amendment was not about hunting for food or the sporting use of firearms because those were accepted activities in those days. The Second Amendment was designed to protect the constitution by empowering citizens to keep and bear arms as a recourse against foreign attack or government tyranny.
Yes, the Sandy Hook school shooting was horrific … but are you going to let the deaths of 26 people, 20 of them children, be the cause that costs you your freedom and your right to self-defense. The truth is that you cannot always detect and deter crazy people and criminals. And since the government has proven to be incompetent in protecting life and property, it is up to you to decide if you want to protect yourself and your family – or if you want to die begging for the mercy which will most likely never come?
See how the progressive liberals – socialists and communists – are trying to spin the numbers to make you believe that we are awash in crime and need to cede our personal protection to a government who is incapable and not legally responsible for protecting us.
The liberal politicians cite Brittan's enlightened gun ban, but watch for yourself …
The liberal politicians cite Australia’s enlightened gun ban, but watch the truth for yourself …
Despicable democrats who want to disarm you …
What can you say about the democrat former governor of Pennsylvania, Ed Rendell, when he said “The good thing about Newtown is, it was so horrific that I think it galvanized Americans to a point where the intensity on our side is going to match the intensity on their side.” This is a man who doesn’t care about the “children” as much as he cares about his socialist cause. Using Rahm Emanuel’s lesson about never letting a crisis go to waste when it can be used to push your political agenda.
Can you imagine what Benjamin Franklin, a distinguished Pennsylvania citizen, civic leader, would have to say about this freedom- and gun-grabbing fool?
In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other.
Real Truth

Tampa, FL

#6 Jan 15, 2013
Page 2 I doubt too whether any other Convention we can obtain, may be able to make a better Constitution. For when you assemble a number of men to have the advantage of their joint wisdom, you inevitably assemble with those men, all their prejudices, their passions, their errors of opinion, their local interests, and their selfish views.
From such an assembly can a perfect production be expected? It therefore astonishes me, Sir, to find this system approaching so near to perfection as it does; and I think it will astonish our enemies, who are waiting with confidence to hear that our councils are confounded like those of the Builders of Babel; and that our States are on the point of separation, only to meet hereafter for the purpose of cutting one another's throats.
Thus I consent, Sir, to this Constitution because I expect no better, and because I am not sure, that it is not the best. The opinions I have had of its errors, I sacrifice to the public good. I have never whispered a syllable of them abroad. Within these walls they were born, and here they shall die.
If every one of us in returning to our Constituents were to report the objections he has had to it, and endeavor to gain partizans in support of them, we might prevent its being generally received, and thereby lose all the salutary effects & great advantages resulting naturally in our favor among foreign Nations as well as among ourselves, from our real or apparent unanimity.
Much of the strength & efficiency of any Government in procuring and securing happiness to the people, depends, on opinion, on the general opinion of the goodness of the Government, as well as of the wisdom and integrity of its Governors. I hope therefore that for our own sakes as a part of the people, and for the sake of posterity, we shall act heartily and unanimously in recommending this Constitution (if approved by Congress & confirmed by the Conventions) wherever our influence may extend, and turn our future thoughts & endeavors to the means of having it well administred.~Benjamin Franklin
Our government has become increasingly corrupt, with self-serving politicians pandering to any special interest that can pay the price of keeping their “bought and paid for” representative in office. Hypocrisy, as well as criminality, abounds. And they need to disarm the citizens of the United States before they grant themselves perpetual power over America and Americans. Which is the end game that is drawing near as we have a poseur as our President, a thoroughly corrupt Congress, and, given Justice Roberts’ last decision on Obamacare, a judiciary who wants to demonstrate its “fairness” with respect to the political majority rather than doing the right thing.
Open borders …
The sad fact that our politicians are pandering to a large political class – Hispanics – by catering to illegal aliens who have by there very presence have violated United States sovereignty and who are likely to have committed other criminal acts relating to the theft or forgery of documents or perjury to obtain legal documents. We are literally watching our culture being changed by a silent invasion of foreign nations. Some who are well-armed and will be emboldened to attack a disarmed and defenseless America. And yet, our elected officials shirk their oath to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution – often without consequences. Can we allow them to cede America to our enemies by disarming our population?
Bottom line …
Real Truth

Tampa, FL

#7 Jan 15, 2013
Page 3 And finally, Simple decision: are you willing to allow the government to move closer to tyranny and disarm you or are you going to stand with all the patriots who have shed blood to keep America free?
Tell these tin-horn petty dictators to put up or shut up: legally guarantee your safety in perpetuity, with severe penalties for perpetrators and compensation for your losses. Without these guarantees, it is only talk!
Are you going to allow these socialists and communists to talk you into surrendering your freedom, liberty and property rights to make way for international socialism?
-- steve

SATAN_64

“Walk With Me In Hell”

Since: Nov 11

Hell, Norway

#8 Jan 15, 2013
hehe wrote:
Gun OWNERSHIP laws
Lock em up People !
These wack-jobs are simply picking up guns that are lying around everywhere.
The nut case in Connecticut is a PRIME example.
His own Mother knew he was capable of this but never took the precaution to SECURE her weapons.
Last week my friends asked why we didn't bring our children around... I didn't answer him, but the TRUTH is, They have a loaded shotgun in their kitchen and a loaded 357 on the their dresser.
OWERS SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY !!!
the shootings in Paducah, KY several years ago - young kids stole their grandfathers loaded unsecured guns.
It's a damn shame that grown people are allowed to buy and own guns without a clue how to keep, maintain, secure and safeguard their weapons !
hehe
education and safety classes are essential to my argument
Teach your children to respect guns, and their proper use, and you won`t have a problem Dum Dum.

Unless your kids are mentally ill.

Ahhh! I hit on a KEY POINT!
lol

Dallas, TX

#9 Jan 15, 2013
dems cannot handle that truth.

Since: Sep 09

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#10 Jan 15, 2013
SATAN_64 wrote:
<quoted text>You will never completely fix the problem. Banning guns isn`t the answer though, because then they will get on the internet and learn how to build bombs and kill even more people.
The problem is respect and values are not being taught to the past couple generations youth. They have grown up in a Stone Cold Steve Austin era, where you take what you want.
Educate the dumbasses and watch things change.
No one is attempting to take your guns.

But I agree with teaching respect and values ..... I totally agree with you. That is an important key element in reducing 'all' type crimes and making the world a much better place.

Since: Sep 09

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#11 Jan 15, 2013
Real Truth wrote:
Jenny your hatred and discriminations sort of keep out the truth.
January 11, 2013
GUN CONTROL: LIBERAL LEFT LIES AND OTHER CRIMES AGAINST FREEDOM http://www.onecitizenspeaking.com/2013/01/gun...
The sad fact that politicians are not held accountable for their actions, either during office or after leaving office is deeply disturbing. In the absence of any consequences for selling your fellow Americans out to the international socialists or communists, they escape being held accountable for the death, destruction and despair they often leave behind.
The truth is that law enforcement is responsible for protecting the institution of government and government workers in the process of keeping societal order and providing for “general welfare” of its citizens and constituents. The government has no accountability for the loss of life or property nor does it have any legal responsibility to protect any ordinary citizen or their property. The “authorities” cannot be everywhere they are needed, when they are needed.
A fact recognized by our Founding Fathers who wrote the constitution not only enumerating what the federal government was allowed to do, but to specify that all other powers belonged to the states or individuals. And when it came to individuals, they recognized man’s unalienable right to freedom and self-defence. The Second Amendment was not about hunting for food or the sporting use of firearms because those were accepted activities in those days. The Second Amendment was designed to protect the constitution by empowering citizens to keep and bear arms as a recourse against foreign attack or government tyranny.
Yes, the Sandy Hook school shooting was horrific … but are you going to let the deaths of 26 people, 20 of them children, be the cause that costs you your freedom and your right to self-defense. The truth is that you cannot always detect and deter crazy people and criminals. And since the government has proven to be incompetent in protecting life and property, it is up to you to decide if you want to protect yourself and your family – or if you want to die begging for the mercy which will most likely never come?
See how the progressive liberals – socialists and communists – are trying to spin the numbers to make you believe that we are awash in crime and need to cede our personal protection to a government who is incapable and not legally responsible for protecting us.
The liberal politicians cite Brittan's enlightened gun ban, but watch for yourself …
The liberal politicians cite Australia’s enlightened gun ban, but watch the truth for yourself …
Despicable democrats who want to disarm you …
What can you say about the democrat former governor of Pennsylvania, Ed Rendell, when he said “The good thing about Newtown is, it was so horrific that I think it galvanized Americans to a point where the intensity on our side is going to match the intensity on their side.” This is a man who doesn’t care about the “children” as much as he cares about his socialist cause. Using Rahm Emanuel’s lesson about never letting a crisis go to waste when it can be used to push your political agenda.
Can you imagine what Benjamin Franklin, a distinguished Pennsylvania citizen, civic leader, would have to say about this freedom- and gun-grabbing fool?
In these sentiments, Sir, I agree to this Constitution with all its faults, if they are such; because I think a general Government necessary for us, and there is no form of Government but what may be a blessing to the people if well administered, and believe farther that this is likely to be well administered for a course of years, and can only end in Despotism, as other forms have done before it, when the people shall become so corrupted as to need despotic Government, being incapable of any other.
That says ..... what? It's hot air which says nothing.

Since: Sep 09

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#12 Jan 15, 2013
Real Truth wrote:
Page 3 And finally, Simple decision: are you willing to allow the government to move closer to tyranny and disarm you or are you going to stand with all the patriots who have shed blood to keep America free?
Tell these tin-horn petty dictators to put up or shut up: legally guarantee your safety in perpetuity, with severe penalties for perpetrators and compensation for your losses. Without these guarantees, it is only talk!
Are you going to allow these socialists and communists to talk you into surrendering your freedom, liberty and property rights to make way for international socialism?
-- steve
You said 'exactly' what I said you would in my first post ..... oppose gun laws. I'm waiting for any suggestions from you as to how to reduce gun violence. If you do not have any that leaves passing better gun laws.

Since: Sep 09

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#13 Jan 15, 2013
So far only Satan_64 has said anything constructive. Proper parenting and education is 'very' important, it can change the nation. But even it doesn't cover those people which refuse to raise their children properly.
hehe

London, KY

#14 Jan 15, 2013
SATAN_64 wrote:
<quoted text>Teach your children to respect guns, and their proper use, and you won`t have a problem Dum Dum.
Unless your kids are mentally ill.
Ahhh! I hit on a KEY POINT!
You missed the point entirely...
You think it's OK (permissible) to leave loaded weapons just lying around ?
Moron
How can I be sure that YOU have taught your children the same
or anyone's children have the same teaching...

hehe
BTW - didn't a shooter kill 70 teenagers in Norway just last year.
Ultra Right-Wing Conservative Nut-Job...(he purchased high capacity magazines from the USA)
ReallyIII

Houston, TX

#15 Jan 15, 2013
hehe wrote:
Gun OWNERSHIP laws
Lock em up People !
These wack-jobs are simply picking up guns that are lying around everywhere.
The nut case in Connecticut is a PRIME example.
His own Mother knew he was capable of this but never took the precaution to SECURE her weapons.
Last week my friends asked why we didn't bring our children around... I didn't answer him, but the TRUTH is, They have a loaded shotgun in their kitchen and a loaded 357 on the their dresser.
OWERS SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY !!!
the shootings in Paducah, KY several years ago - young kids stole their grandfathers loaded unsecured guns.
It's a damn shame that grown people are allowed to buy and own guns without a clue how to keep, maintain, secure and safeguard their weapons !
hehe
education and safety classes are essential to my argument
Adam Lanza was a Job Creator. Obama claims to be one , but all he did was kill 176 kids with his drones.

hehe DumbF()uck

Since: Sep 09

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#16 Jan 15, 2013
Enough smaller things pertaining to different elements of gun violence can cut away at things like peeling an onion.

For example. How many people are shot due to drinking? People drinking are more apt to become angry and when armed more easily use that gun when they normally would handle it differently. Also, studies and interviews of people in prisons have shown a vast number committed their crimes while drinking or doing drugs. Heck, as a side issue ..... how many gun 'accidents' happen while drinking?

Make it a crime (subject to a citation or arrest) to drink while in possession of a gun. I don't mean be drunk, but drink. It is illegal to drive a car with an open container of alcohol in the vehicle ..... why not for carrying a gun and drinking?
Patriot

London, KY

#17 Jan 15, 2013
We give advice on guns. The left tries to spin it into Murder Inc.

Enforce present gun laws and mental health provisions. Admit the education received by these young shooters not only in school but TV and video games are "putting them in the picture" which is one of the most effective sales tools identified by Xerox Corporation Professional Selling Skills.

The exposure given to these defects is another thing. If you have the opinion of yourself that you are nobody lost in nthe mediocrity of the human race. It is a ends to a means of making a "big" name for yourself.

Call them nuts, carzies or how about what they truly are. Evil murderers.

Nothing wrong with shooting another person if it is the right person being shot. You see. The person that has a baseball bat beside their bed for protection has already decided to meet violence with violence. The mindset not the weapon.

Spin away.
hehe

London, KY

#18 Jan 15, 2013
Kids and guns don’t mix, especially when those guns are carelessly left in unlocked cabinets or even in plain view.

Firearms are the second-leading cause of non-natural deaths for kids, typically from a gun the kid finds somewhere around the house, according to a University of Utah report that mentioned additional horrific statistics.

About two-thirds of accidental shooting deaths happen in the home, with the kid shooting himself to death in 45 percent of the cases and friends or family members pulling the trigger in the remainder.

More than 50 percent of American households have a gun in the house, and, in one survey of evidently careless families, 10 percent said they had loaded firearms in unlocked locations that were easily accessible to kids.

There is obviously a need to keep guns in locked, inaccessible and child-resistant locations and store them unloaded.
http://listosaur.com/miscellaneous/top-5-caus...

hehe
hehe

London, KY

#19 Jan 15, 2013
Uncle charged in child's accidental shooting death

3-year-old-boy accidentally kills himself with gun found in car

Police: Teen accidentally shot and killed by friend

Latest 'Accidental' Shooting Confirms People With Guns Shouldn't Have Kids

two Colorado 5-year-olds died in accidental shootings ...

More than 500 children die annually from accidental gunshots
http://www.google.com/search...

hehe
every case is an unsecured loaded gun, just lying around--

Since: Sep 09

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#20 Jan 15, 2013
Patriot wrote:
We give advice on guns. The left tries to spin it into Murder Inc.
Enforce present gun laws and mental health provisions. Admit the education received by these young shooters not only in school but TV and video games are "putting them in the picture" which is one of the most effective sales tools identified by Xerox Corporation Professional Selling Skills.
The exposure given to these defects is another thing. If you have the opinion of yourself that you are nobody lost in nthe mediocrity of the human race. It is a ends to a means of making a "big" name for yourself.
Call them nuts, carzies or how about what they truly are. Evil murderers.
Nothing wrong with shooting another person if it is the right person being shot. You see. The person that has a baseball bat beside their bed for protection has already decided to meet violence with violence. The mindset not the weapon.
Spin away.
No one will fault you for saying education plays a part.

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