Malaysia airlines flight 370; post yo...

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#62 Mar 27, 2014
Bad news wrote:
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Go to Hell, you twit...
Parts of St. Louis and Kansas City DO resemble hell...
Private Pilot

Hopkinsville, KY

#63 Mar 27, 2014
one way wrote:
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Where did you get your info from? I read that they took on extra fuel and some speculated that it may have been because fuel costs more in China.
Let me know if you have info disputing this private pilot..
According to all public news media reports, the plane, even with the slightly larger than normal fuel load that it was carrying for a flight from Malaysia to Bejing, had enough fuel to remain in the air about 6 hours from the time of last radio contact with it. At that time it was over the South China Sea about half way between Singapore and Saigon. A Boeing 777 cruises at 490 nautical miles per hour. Math: 6 hours X 490 knots = 2,940 nautical miles. For a nice round figure call it 3,000. Now, take a globe (a good paper map will do, but a globe is better) and a compass - the kind with the sharp point and the pencil that kids use to draw circles. Find the scale on the globe/map and set the compass to indicate 3,000 miles. Put sharp point at last known location in South China Sea. Draw northwest-west-southwest-south arc of a 3,000 mile circle from that point. As you will see, it comes up about 500 miles short of the Pakistan-India border even if the plane flew a straight line across India, a line that would have taken it within 200 miles of Calcutta, plus near or over several more cities with big commercial airports and good radar. If it had flown west toward Africa, it would have gone down in the southern Arabian Sea about half way between the southern tip of India and the coast of Somalia. Heading any direction to the west it would have run out of fuel before it reached any land. Only if it flew south southeast could it have reached any land: Australia. That and all the other available information considered, the most likely place that it crashed is right where they are looking: near the western edge of the deep part of the Indian Ocean known as the West Australian Basin, about 1,500 miles west of Perth, Australia.

MrsGladToBeMe

Since: Oct 13

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#65 Mar 28, 2014
Republicans voted against 492 bills that would've created millions of jobs
and revenue , while millions lost their jobs and homes .

MrsGladToBeMe

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#66 Mar 28, 2014
REPUBLICANS pledged to cut Veterans benefits by $ 36 BILLION .
Truth or not

Somerset, KY

#67 Mar 28, 2014
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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Collect the debris, identify it and then we might have something to discuss. Until then, it could be trash from ocean going vessels. All I see is Governments speculating, delaying and guessing for some purpose
The Islamic terrorists are not sponsored by the Russians. They are playing each other through the Syrians.
I wonder how many large commercial jets fly over Israel or approach New York or Washington D.C. on any given day? Given the right electronics, such a plane would be ignored by air defenses until it was too late. The actual source of such an attack would be obscured, making massive retaliation much less likely.
Obama's tough talk today didn't frighten the Russians. It's only effect was to tank European and U.S. Stock markets.
I sincerely hope you are correct, but I'm not nearly as naive as Mr. Obama is. I'm from Missouri. Show me the wreckage and stop obfuscating...
All kinds of planes fly over Washington and, New York, Tel Aviv, and many other likely targets. The Russians MAY not sponsor Islamic terrorists but certainly North Korea, Iran, Syria and several other states do. They may not be able to afford electricity but the could dig up the 250M for a plane pretty easy. But, assume they have little money, any Nuke, Biological agent, or never gas container would be crude and somewhat large but still small enough to fit in a plane much smaller and less noticeable than a 777 especially after one has been stolen. All the IFF codes would have to be changed either way. The 777 systems, all of them, would have to be disabled and since it can probably be identified early those would have to changed to appear to be transmitting from another 777. Lots of trouble when it's much easier to buy a less sophisticated plane, load it and fly it into something. Terrorists are just nuts, not stupid. They're going down with it so they keep it simple. Think about how simple the 911 plot was. Learn to fly enough to guide a plane. It's really not hard, you learn that the first or second day depending on the instructor. Take advantage of lax safety and make you last jihad statement. Then go get your 77 virgins or ever how many were available.

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#68 Mar 28, 2014
It looks like we're going to get a "Breaking News" alert now for every trash bag floating in the Indian Ocean....

Meanwhile, the plane is being repainted and refitted with new electronics...

"Look over here" said the carnival magician...
Private Pilot

Hopkinsville, KY

#69 Mar 29, 2014
Laurel Patriot wrote:
Meanwhile, the plane is being repainted and refitted with new electronics...
Impossible.

Even if terrorists could find a runway that had pavement strong enough to stand the aircraft's weight that was 150 feet wide and 12,000 feet long, the only way that they could fit it with new electronics would be to call in Boeing to send a couple of hundred highly trained techs to do it for them! And bring the new parts too.

This is a 777-200 cockpit:

http://777boeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/...

Plus there is must as much on the overhead that you can't see in the picture.

“100% American”

Since: Jul 13

Tennessee Hills

#70 Mar 29, 2014
Private Pilot wrote:
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Impossible.
Even if terrorists could find a runway that had pavement strong enough to stand the aircraft's weight that was 150 feet wide and 12,000 feet long, the only way that they could fit it with new electronics would be to call in Boeing to send a couple of hundred highly trained techs to do it for them! And bring the new parts too.
This is a 777-200 cockpit:
http://777boeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/...
Plus there is must as much on the overhead that you can't see in the picture.
You shouldn't be so quick to say impossible. Given some ingenuity and determination, many surprising things can be accomplished under substandard conditions. I don't know where the plane is, but until more facts emerge, nothing should be ruled out.

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#71 Mar 29, 2014
Private Pilot wrote:
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Impossible.
Even if terrorists could find a runway that had pavement strong enough to stand the aircraft's weight that was 150 feet wide and 12,000 feet long, the only way that they could fit it with new electronics would be to call in Boeing to send a couple of hundred highly trained techs to do it for them! And bring the new parts too.
This is a 777-200 cockpit:
http://777boeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/...
Plus there is must as much on the overhead that you can't see in the picture.
I don't believe in co-incidence. There are Muslim Governments in the area that would be willing to co-operate with terrorists on the QT as long as they believed it would result in disaster for America.

We must maintain our vigilance until some real proof is found...
Nope

Flat Lick, KY

#72 Mar 29, 2014
Private Pilot wrote:
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Impossible.
Even if terrorists could find a runway that had pavement strong enough to stand the aircraft's weight that was 150 feet wide and 12,000 feet long, the only way that they could fit it with new electronics would be to call in Boeing to send a couple of hundred highly trained techs to do it for them! And bring the new parts too.
This is a 777-200 cockpit:
http://777boeing.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/...
Plus there is must as much on the overhead that you can't see in the picture.
Very possible.

Any decent highway would do. Terrorists would not intend to replace the avionics, instead they simply add in a makeshift system (ACARS and transponder) from another smaller aircraft.
Private Pilot

Hopkinsville, KY

#73 Mar 29, 2014
Nope wrote:
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Very possible.
Any decent highway would do.
No. Any "decent highway" will not do. The weight of a 777 would break right through "the average highway." The landing gears would then break off. You crash. There is also the matter of width. You can't have any light poles, etc. alongside the road closer than the plane's wingspan. Then there's the roll out distance that you need to stop when you land. A 777 takes a minimum of 8,100 feet arrow straight and level. To get off again with a full load of fuel - enough to fly say from Africa to New York - you need a runway like that 12,000 feet long.

I've never landed on a highway and I hope never to have to. But I have put King Airs down on little country airports that were barely long enough. That is hairy enough. I'd hate to think what putting a 777 down on a two lane road in the Australian Outback would be like.
Nope

Flat Lick, KY

#74 Mar 29, 2014
Private Pilot wrote:
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No. Any "decent highway" will not do. The weight of a 777 would break right through "the average highway." The landing gears would then break off. You crash. There is also the matter of width. You can't have any light poles, etc. alongside the road closer than the plane's wingspan. Then there's the roll out distance that you need to stop when you land. A 777 takes a minimum of 8,100 feet arrow straight and level. To get off again with a full load of fuel - enough to fly say from Africa to New York - you need a runway like that 12,000 feet long.
I've never landed on a highway and I hope never to have to. But I have put King Airs down on little country airports that were barely long enough. That is hairy enough. I'd hate to think what putting a 777 down on a two lane road in the Australian Outback would be like.
Nonsense, a Boeing 777-200 is only 160 tons, a couple of loaded coal trucks.

Australia's Highway 1 is one of the longest highways in the world. A 747-200 is 60,000 pounds heavier and could easily land there on any open stretch.

http://www.mistertopten.com/top-ten-longest-h...

http://www.mistertopten.com/wp-content/upload... ís-Highway-1.jpg
Nope

Flat Lick, KY

#75 Mar 29, 2014
The last link didn't post correctly.

Look familiar?

http://goo.gl/Wb52p1
Private Pilot

Hopkinsville, KY

#76 Mar 29, 2014
Nope wrote:
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Nonsense, a Boeing 777-200 is only 160 tons, a couple of loaded coal trucks.
Australia's Highway 1 is one of the longest highways in the world. A 747-200 is 60,000 pounds heavier and could easily land there on any open stretch.
http://www.mistertopten.com/top-ten-longest-h...
http://www.mistertopten.com/wp-content/upload... ís-Highway-1.jpg
OK. Have it your way. I suppose you've flown a 777-200.

I have not. Just King Airs, Baron G58s, and the occasional old Cessna.

Good luck when you try putting it on the highway. Remember, you only get to foul up once.

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#77 Mar 29, 2014
There were hundreds of suitable airstrips within range of this airplane from Korea to Bangladesh. It wouldn't surprise me if it returned to Malaysia or Indonesia.

All of the leads blared on CNN 24/7 and elsewhere have two things in common. They are unsubstantiated and haven't produced the aircraft. Some of these "leads" are SO contradictory that you would have to be a fool not to sense some misdirection for some evil purpose.

We can only hope, at this point, that the plane did crash in the ocean, as the alternatives are too frightening to fully grasp.
Truth or not

Chagrin Falls, OH

#78 Mar 31, 2014
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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I don't believe in co-incidence. There are Muslim Governments in the area that would be willing to co-operate with terrorists on the QT as long as they believed it would result in disaster for America.
We must maintain our vigilance until some real proof is found...
Just this weekend in Alabama a former couple met in a deadly crash. It has long been known that the ex-husband hated the ex-wife and didn't want to pay her alimony. He had often wished her dead, and she was the one that died.

She lived in New York and had decided to head to the beach with her new significant other. Her ex lived at their old place in California and was asked, at the last minute, to replace a co-worker on a business trip. He rented a large SUV at the airport and headed for the interstate. He merged just to the right of his ex-wife and new man driving a small car. The couple suddenly without reason moved to the right lane and clipped the SUV throwing the smaller car into a spin and ultimately a bridge. She was killed by being impaled in rebar set the day before for a new concrete support. Both men lived. That was one hell of a collusive effort.

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#79 Mar 31, 2014
Huh? Sounds like a load of BS to me. Kind of a stretch.... Still waiting to see ONE piece of bona fide evidence that this plane crashed...

“100% American”

Since: Jul 13

Tennessee Hills

#80 Mar 31, 2014
Laurel Patriot wrote:
Huh? Sounds like a load of BS to me. Kind of a stretch.... Still waiting to see ONE piece of bona fide evidence that this plane crashed...
What do you make of the pilot's new "last words"?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/31/world/asia/mala...
Well

Flat Lick, KY

#81 Mar 31, 2014
Stray- Dog wrote:
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What do you make of the pilot's new "last words"?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/31/world/asia/mala...
Very typical hand-off. I hear the same a thousand times a day.

“100% American”

Since: Jul 13

Tennessee Hills

#82 Mar 31, 2014
Well wrote:
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Very typical hand-off. I hear the same a thousand times a day.
Yes, of course. But that's not the point. They first said the last words were "all right, goodnight". They let that stand for 3 weeks or so, and now they are changing their story. Why?

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