principal lynn camp

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use to work with her

Lexington, KY

#6 Aug 5, 2012
Amy Bays is a very nice person and good leader. I worked with her in Scott Co and in Fayette Co. She understands how hard work and leadership can move student achievement.
Give Ms. Bays a chance to turn around the school. It takes an average of 5 years for new leadership to have an impact on a school that was in such bad shape!(and that is researched based)
Some people may not like her b/c of the decisions she makes but keep in mind...sometimes the right decision isn't always the most popular decision.
Mr Obvious

Chicago, IL

#11 Aug 6, 2012
I am an alumni of Lynn Camp. I've lost touch with the school and administration since I live out of the district and my kids go to a different school. I will be the first to say that after having the opportunity to meet the assistant principal this summer, there is not a better person out there. His heart in 100% into his job and even though he did not go to Lynn Camp, he is all about doing the right thing for the kids. My hat is off to you sir. Build on the negativity and continue your quest to show that Lynn Camp can succeed. I appreciate all you are doing by going above and beyond.
girl

Corbin, KY

#12 Aug 7, 2012
lol. she needs to go back to where she came from.
wowser

Williamsburg, KY

#13 Aug 7, 2012
Knox Co. should never have to hire 20-30 teachers each and every year, perhaps they need to assess themselves and focus on their hiring practices and treatment of staff...Time to decide to hire the BEST teachers (better educated) and stop the "in the clique BS" and then be glad to have them (they can get much better pay elsewhere in the state) when was the last time they even interviewed anyone with a Master's Degree- IF they could get a lesser educated teacher? LOL
Amen

Madisonville, KY

#16 Aug 9, 2012
Wowser wrote : Knox Co. should never have to hire 20-30 teachers each and every year, perhaps they need to assess themselves and focus on their hiring practices and treatment of staff...Time to decide to hire the BEST teachers (better educated) and stop the "in the clique BS" and then be glad to have them (they can get much better pay elsewhere in the state) when was the last time they even interviewed anyone with a Master's Degree- IF they could get a lesser educated teacher? LOL
I totally agree with you! I know several teachers tha applied for jobs at Lynn Camp (many with years of experience, working on or have a masters degree and were actually requested by parents at other schools) and were given the run around because they didn't have the "right" lastname. So sad that some awesome teachers get overlooked just because their parents aren't rich and in the clique!
wowser

Williamsburg, KY

#17 Aug 10, 2012
It sure seems it is past time for a whole new BOE and Super, WH is a joke. This constant hiring over and over every year is very expensive to the system (meaning the students suffer the most) Just the K-tip costs alone are staggering!(which could be avoided by simply hiring better educated teachers who have already passed K-tip or who have enough invested in their education to make the costs benefit the system)It seems they'd rather have "young and hot" teachers fresh out of school than those who would best teach the students. I mean sure a 24 year old might (sometimes) be better to look at than a 35-45 year old teacher, but IS teaching a beauty contest OR is education of our children important?

Seems THE KCBOE doesn't care about overall long - term costs OR improving education. IOW they're NOT doing the job they're in place to do! To make the point KCBOE is constantly hiring the same levels as Fayette and Christian counties which are MUCH larger systems, that is quite telling and we should really make some changes happen to improve things, clearly the KCBOE as is certainly do not intend to do what is best for the system or our children's education! It is way past time that we demand the BOE does their job and since the current ones in power refuse to do that, they must go and the next group needs to appreciate the fact we expect the best teachers who apply get interviewed and not passed over for "those in the clique" fresh out of school who most likely won't teach three years!
Amen wrote:
Wowser wrote : Knox Co. should never have to hire 20-30 teachers each and every year, perhaps they need to assess themselves and focus on their hiring practices and treatment of staff...Time to decide to hire the BEST teachers (better educated) and stop the "in the clique BS" and then be glad to have them (they can get much better pay elsewhere in the state) when was the last time they even interviewed anyone with a Master's Degree- IF they could get a lesser educated teacher? LOL
I totally agree with you! I know several teachers tha applied for jobs at Lynn Camp (many with years of experience, working on or have a masters degree and were actually requested by parents at other schools) and were given the run around because they didn't have the "right" lastname. So sad that some awesome teachers get overlooked just because their parents aren't rich and in the clique!
info

Lexington, KY

#18 Aug 12, 2012
Do you all KNOW the reason they Knox Co has to hire 20-30 teachers per year? It's not b/c they leave. Knox Co is under sanctions from KDE. That means they have moved beyond a Tier 4 consequences and have to replace "x" amount of teachers and possibly administration due to state take over.

It has nothing to do with the "last names" of people.
Wants to know

Georgetown, KY

#19 Aug 12, 2012
wowser wrote:
Knox Co. should never have to hire 20-30 teachers each and every year, perhaps they need to assess themselves and focus on their hiring practices and treatment of staff...Time to decide to hire the BEST teachers (better educated) and stop the "in the clique BS" and then be glad to have them (they can get much better pay elsewhere in the state) when was the last time they even interviewed anyone with a Master's Degree- IF they could get a lesser educated teacher? LOL
Well they have interviewed someone with a masters and they would not hire them do to the fact they would have to pay them more on their salery with that degree.
not how it works

Lexington, KY

#20 Aug 12, 2012
Wants to know wrote:
<quoted text>Well they have interviewed someone with a masters and they would not hire them do to the fact they would have to pay them more on their salery with that degree.
Districts do not pay teachers based on their degree. Each district has a "district average" and are allocated a certain degree of teachers per year. It doesn't matter if a teacher is newly graduated or has a Ph.D. The amount they "cost" is the same. Districts don't hire like a checkbook system. Sorry but that is simply not true.
We all know

Madisonville, KY

#21 Aug 12, 2012
I know why they have to hire new teachers. Everyone is aware of that school's situation. I was just saying that when they hire new teachers they pick candidates that are in the Knox County clique. Board member's relatives, lawyer's friends and family, and etc. I just feel that if everyone was given a fair chance at Knox Co. jobs they would hire people with experience instead of people with connections. If they did this maybe they would not be in a Tier 4 consequence in the first place.
Salary Schedule

Whitley City, KY

#22 Aug 12, 2012
not how it works wrote:
<quoted text>
Districts do not pay teachers based on their degree. Each district has a "district average" and are allocated a certain degree of teachers per year. It doesn't matter if a teacher is newly graduated or has a Ph.D. The amount they "cost" is the same. Districts don't hire like a checkbook system. Sorry but that is simply not true.
School districts do pay based on education and experience. Search almost any districts website and you will find a salary schedule. The pay increases with years taught and education level. So someone who has been teaching 15 years with a Masters degree will get paid more than a first year teacher with a bachelors degree, about $12,000 more in my district. Teachers do not "cost" the same.
you are confused

Lexington, KY

#23 Aug 12, 2012
Salary Schedule wrote:
<quoted text>
School districts do pay based on education and experience. Search almost any districts website and you will find a salary schedule. The pay increases with years taught and education level. So someone who has been teaching 15 years with a Masters degree will get paid more than a first year teacher with a bachelors degree, about $12,000 more in my district. Teachers do not "cost" the same.
Yes they pay the TEACHER for the years of experience etc but when the principal goes to STAFFING at the district office it isn't calculated that way. Each hiring manager (i.e principals) are given an allocation of how many teaching staff they can hire. It is based on a calculated district average NOT based on years of experience etc. For example, if I had to hire a first year and a 20th year teacher it would cost me the same amount at my staffing meeting....this is NOT what the actual teacher makes per paycheck. So yes....teachers DO cost the same.
Iknow

Barbourville, KY

#24 Aug 13, 2012
info wrote:
Do you all KNOW the reason they Knox Co has to hire 20-30 teachers per year? It's not b/c they leave. Knox Co is under sanctions from KDE. That means they have moved beyond a Tier 4 consequences and have to replace "x" amount of teachers and possibly administration due to state take over.
It has nothing to do with the "last names" of people.
You are totally wrong, Lynn Camp is not under any sanctions from the state. Where in the world did you get your info?
Wow

Madisonville, KY

#26 Aug 13, 2012
If that kind of stuff is going on something needs to be done! Sounds like the BOE needs to step in and make that school shape up!
wowser

Williamsburg, KY

#28 Aug 13, 2012
IF that is even true, what is MORE important than getting the best teachers who apply? How much do they spend on sports programs etc.?? not to mention hiring new teachers over and over , K-tip costs it isn't as much "more" as one may think. So EVEN IF they're saying "good teachers cost too much" when what they've been doing is failing miserably, it's time to do the best thing for the students, if that means replacing the BOE and Super then so what? It's FAR more important to get good teachers who have the best education than it is to save some money that is spent on BS anyway !!!
Wants to know wrote:
<quoted text>Well they have interviewed someone with a masters and they would not hire them do to the fact they would have to pay them more on their salery with that degree.
wowser

Williamsburg, KY

#29 Aug 13, 2012
I do know

Lexington, KY

#30 Aug 13, 2012
Iknow wrote:
<quoted text> You are totally wrong, Lynn Camp is not under any sanctions from the state. Where in the world did you get your info?
I didn't say Lynn Camp...I said Knox Co. They are labeled 19 of the low performing schools in the state. I get my information from my job. I have the info at my fingertips but just in case....you can google it.

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