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Personally I form my own beliefs. I don't need youtube or any other link on the internet to tell me what to think. Maybe there should be a thread on "the hypnotizing of America."
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Mar 3, 2013
 
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I agree they want them all. But the constitution allows for amendment and second amendment allows for regulation of arms. That's been upheld by the courts for over seventy years. I really don't see where, barring and all out repeal of the second amendment or a court ruling that says you must be a member of a well-regulated militia to own firearms, that they can pass any type of ban that would be overturned. But they can regulate it. The easiest way to regulate firearms is tax them heavily. The easiest way to prevent the majority of people from having effective firearms is do get rid of the ammo. How much do you see available for sale at this point? It could be an coincidence or not.
The swear to uphold the constitution does not fly with me. As a matter of fact, it somewhat bothers me. We have, supposedly, a legally elected government that is potentially capable of changing the constitution. After all the second amendment was a change to the constitution. People have sworn to uphold the constitution, no the parts they like. If it is changed to be unfavorable to many Americans will these people still uphold it, even to the point of whatever it takes?
Correction: Should say that would NOT be overturned.
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most people are to trusting in our government.look at all the promises that were made before the elections and how many has been broken?ok ,go ahead and blame it on the previous administration.
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Okay wrote:
I agree they want them all. But the constitution allows for amendment and second amendment allows for regulation of arms. That's been upheld by the courts for over seventy years. I really don't see where, barring and all out repeal of the second amendment or a court ruling that says you must be a member of a well-regulated militia to own firearms, that they can pass any type of ban that would be overturned. But they can regulate it. The easiest way to regulate firearms is tax them heavily. The easiest way to prevent the majority of people from having effective firearms is do get rid of the ammo. How much do you see available for sale at this point? It could be an coincidence or not.
The swear to uphold the constitution does not fly with me. As a matter of fact, it somewhat bothers me. We have, supposedly, a legally elected government that is potentially capable of changing the constitution. After all the second amendment was a change to the constitution. People have sworn to uphold the constitution, no the parts they like. If it is changed to be unfavorable to many Americans will these people still uphold it, even to the point of whatever it takes?
The eventual answer to oppressive governments is to overthrow and replace them. Hence, the need to get firearms out of the hands of those who might consider such a thing. After all, that's the way this country came into being.
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#47
Mar 3, 2013
 
So, you're suggesting an overthrow of the United States Government? Good luck with that.
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So, you're suggesting an overthrow of the United States Government? Good luck with that.
I'm not advocating anything! I responded to your hypothetical scenario about how a populace might respond to an oppressive government. Actually, I don't foresee such a thing happening in the US in my lifetime. Just the existence of an armed populace is enough to give any would-be dictator pause, and it's going to take a long time to get all of the guns.
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My scenario was not how the populace my respond to an oppressive government. As far as I know, we legally elected the government whether we individually voted for those in office or not. Therefore, they have the rights that go with that office, one of which includes amendments to the constitution. If the second amendment was abolished by another amendment, I can't say that would be an oppressive government since they were, as far as I know, legally elected. But many people would see them as oppressive. Howe those people would react does not concern me. What does concern me is the people who have taken an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. They did not take an oath to defend the parts they like or the constitution as it existed at the time of the oath. That could become an oppressive government.

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Okay wrote:
My scenario was not how the populace my respond to an oppressive government. As far as I know, we legally elected the government whether we individually voted for those in office or not. Therefore, they have the rights that go with that office, one of which includes amendments to the constitution. If the second amendment was abolished by another amendment, I can't say that would be an oppressive government since they were, as far as I know, legally elected. But many people would see them as oppressive. Howe those people would react does not concern me. What does concern me is the people who have taken an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. They did not take an oath to defend the parts they like or the constitution as it existed at the time of the oath. That could become an oppressive government.
they were given orders to confinscate firearms during katrina.some soldiers followed unconstitutional orders and also the contracters they had down there too.but,there were soldiers who refused the orders to confinscate.for the most part, i dont think we will be up against soldiers in our military,i the it will be contracters/un/nato from other countries!i do think there are a ton of our military who will defend the people,if it comes down to an out out fight! as far as electronic voting goes,it is hackable and proven it can be altered!
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#54
Mar 6, 2013
 
take my guns.

nearest cop has a nice m4 my taxdollars paid for and hasta sleep sumtime, reckon a broken budlight bottle to his jugular while he's filling a bathroom stall off duty oughta lessen his resistance, i mean, should i need one im sure i can get his.

see you in hell commies, you cant stop rock n roll, the rape train has no breaks, you gotta purdy mouf, and there will be an epidemic of mass murder being committed by a virtual army of unidentified assassins the moment your tiresome shit tips the scales.

why dont you focus on improving peoples lives despite our disparate objections instead of trying to provoke us into making rugs out of you?

jesus h titty farkin christ ya'll sum dumb sumbitches.
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Mar 7, 2013
 
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take my guns.
nearest cop has a nice m4 my taxdollars paid for and hasta sleep sumtime, reckon a broken budlight bottle to his jugular while he's filling a bathroom stall off duty oughta lessen his resistance, i mean, should i need one im sure i can get his.
see you in hell commies, you cant stop rock n roll, the rape train has no breaks, you gotta purdy mouf, and there will be an epidemic of mass murder being committed by a virtual army of unidentified assassins the moment your tiresome shit tips the scales.
why dont you focus on improving peoples lives despite our disparate objections instead of trying to provoke us into making rugs out of you?
jesus h titty farkin christ ya'll sum dumb sumbitches.
And you watch too many movies. It's really not true that when people shoot back they always miss.
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#56
Mar 7, 2013
 
Okay wrote:
Personally I form my own beliefs. I don't need youtube or any other link on the internet to tell me what to think. Maybe there should be a thread on "the hypnotizing of America."
There is, it is a few spaces up from "Hypnotizing." "Head in Sand" is the title you seek.

I devour all information. Nothing evil about info. Nothing states it has to be swallowed.

You elect to remain ignorant to support a loser like obama.
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Okay wrote:
My scenario was not how the populace my respond to an oppressive government. As far as I know, we legally elected the government whether we individually voted for those in office or not. Therefore, they have the rights that go with that office, one of which includes amendments to the constitution. If the second amendment was abolished by another amendment, I can't say that would be an oppressive government since they were, as far as I know, legally elected. But many people would see them as oppressive. Howe those people would react does not concern me. What does concern me is the people who have taken an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. They did not take an oath to defend the parts they like or the constitution as it existed at the time of the oath. That could become an oppressive government.
The Us forces PROTECT AND SERVE. Who do they protect and who do they serve? Some military personnel says big brother and some says Us civilians especially legal citizens. We have a split and two different political perspectives coming from both parties. We know and understand the progressive perspective you know if your a democrat then your a member and a vip to their fallout shelter and big brother will survive while we the people kill each other off. Then you have the republican perspective in which we the people should have the right to individual freedom and to have the option to succeed or fall flat on our backs. It's legal but is it right ? Does legal and right mean the same thing? You can't save everybody from their bad decisions and you can't find a one size fits all policies just because some people have a much bigger ego than others. I never voted for Obama and Obama doesn't know best he represents big government. I remember Bush and how the far left charged him with invading their privacy to catch terrorist but now the far left stepped it up a nautch with the Obama and the drone vs us citizens pos legislation. Do I have the right to defend myself against tyranny or a terrorist? Should I fear the our military or be confident they are protecting us from foreign and domestic threats? If Obama strikes down a Us citizen in the Us should I be confident or concerned for my own safety? The far left calls opposition haters so will he step it up a nautch and call the tea party terrorist? Obama opposed the war in afghan and Iraq but he's created one hear at home. Who will pull the trigger first Obama or a civilian? I say Obama will. If big brother announces to the public to turn in your neighbors for speaking our against his cabinet and he calls it treason will you call it tyranny or so called social justice? You can't take freedom away from those who live freely that easy. I say give me liberty or give me death what do you say?
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why won't more people stand up for their rights instead of being led like sheep to the slaughter??
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There is, it is a few spaces up from "Hypnotizing." "Head in Sand" is the title you seek.
I devour all information. Nothing evil about info. Nothing states it has to be swallowed.
You elect to remain ignorant to support a loser like obama.
You're right. There's nothing evil about information. Sadly, most people devour that which sounds the worse to them and never research on their own.

For the record, I have never and do not support Obama, but I'm in the 5% of people in the world who think on their own.
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Mar 7, 2013
 
Never mind you weren't talking to me.
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Mar 7, 2013
 
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why won't more people stand up for their rights instead of being led like sheep to the slaughter??
You can go to oathkeepers.org and see how many military, police, and regular citizens that have signed the oath to defend the Constitution.

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Mar 8, 2013
 
The Most Pro-Gun Low-Crime City in the United States

by Gary DeMar
posted on July 23, 2012
Filed under Gun Control, Politics

The anti-Second Amendment crowd is on the warpath again. PBS’ Bill Moyers, who served as White House Press Secretary in the Lyndon Johnson administration from 1965 to 1967, called the NRA “the enabler of death.” It seems to me that James Holmes is the Enabler of Death. 65 million other gun owners in the United States didn’t kill anybody last Thursday evening.

I live just a few miles from the most pro-gun city in the United States – Kennesaw Georgia – where gun ownership is mandatory. It’s not the “Wild West” like some people predicted when it passed a mandatory gun ownership law.

“The city of Kennesaw was selected by Family Circle magazine as one of the nation’s ‘10 best towns for families.’ The award was aimed at identifying the best communities nationally that combine big-city opportunities with suburban charm, a blend of affordable housing, good jobs, top-rated public schools, wide-open spaces, and less stress.”[1]
In 1982 the city passed the following ordinance [Sec 34-21] which was in response to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill.


(a) In order to provide for the emergency management of the city, and further in order to provide for and protect the safety, security and general welfare of the city and its inhabitants, every head of household residing in the city limits is required to maintain a firearm, together with ammunition therefore.

(b) Exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who suffer a physical or mental disability which would prohibit them from using such a firearm. Further exempt from the effect of this section are those heads of households who are paupers or who conscientiously oppose maintaining firearms as a result of beliefs or religious doctrine, or persons convicted of a felony.
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http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/07/the-most -...

Another City Requires Its Residents To Own Firearms

posted on March 7, 2013
by Philip Hodges

We’ve written before about Kennesaw, Georgia, the town that since 1982 has had an ordinance that requires gun ownership among its residents.

Now there’s another city actually not far from Kennesaw that’s doing the same thing. Nelson, Georgia sits on the borderline between Pickens and Cherokee Counties, and for this reason, police response time is low. Nelson has one police car that patrols the city during the day for 8 hours, but for the remaining 16 hours, they have no one. This is why the city is requiring its residents to own firearms, and their ordinance is modeled after Kennesaw’s.

Read more: http://politicaloutcast.com/2013/03/another-c ...

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