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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 163201 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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defender

London, KY

#105107 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Um, the theory of evolution is the explanation of how things evolve, things evolve. Also, there is no "everything" theory at all, it the theory of evolution is the only explanation for how things evolve and what mechanisms are involved and which influence the outcomes, there is no alternative theory, there is not even an alternative hypothesis.
Yeah and it can tell you everything but prove none of it... Just saying...
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#105108 May 28, 2013
Oxymoron wrote:
<quoted text>
The gaps are closing? Not from where I'm standing, it looks to me that the more Scientists try to answer a question the more questions that pop up of How, When, Where, and Why; the conclusion of the last answer came about, it's never ending. The universe will have burned out before all the questions are answered. It all leads to a Big Bang and nobody knows how or why it happened; and if it was just a random occurrence, why hasn't it happened more than once and how could we possibly know if it has happened more than once. Nonbelievers probably have more faith than believers, if they had used all that energy trying to find God rather than trying to disprove Him we would surely all be sitting in the Kingdom of Heaven by now. But I understand why I think, it's because they look at Christianity today and say to themselves "If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed" and I don't blame them. You can not look at Christianity of today because it is not the true representation of Christ, because there is little if any Love left in it, there hasn't been for many many centuries and even then it was only a twinkle at best way back before the Romans slaughtered the original followers of Christ. But the Message he left behind is still just as real today as it was then, it's up to you personally to become a reflection of that light, it cannot be found anywhere today except in yourself. It must start with you, just as a few years ago it started also in me. You don't have to go to church in fact anymore I'd advise against it unless you are just going to learn, it's a school house anymore, a university, but the time comes when one must graduate and leave the school and walk with God where ever he goes, for he is Love, Mercy, kindness, and understanding; and he will guide your steps. But you must listen to Christ's words in the New Testament for he revealed many things to the world that man was confused about prior to that time, it's just that now the world has fallen back into confusion all over again, because we lack the patience and the faith to dig until we find the answers to our questions, but above all we must find the Love we once had for each other because we can have all things but lack that an it all falls apart. Sounds like the world we live in to me.
1 Corinthians 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not LOVE, I am nothing.
Matthew 4:4 It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
2 Timothy 4:5 But WATCH THOU IN ALL THINGS endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make FULL PROOF of thy ministry.
I admire your faith, I think the bible does say gaps will close.
Daniel 12:4

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#105109 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Lie?... Piltdown Man, Peking Man, Lucy Nebraska man, Stanley Miller experiment, Ida and the list goes on and on .. It's clear where the lies are coming from...
Come, come defender. Been there done that. One was a hoax that was suspected from the start and the others were errors. All were cleared up NOT by the clergy, but by the scientific community itself. Don't you remember the couple dozen posts in which you COMPLETELY ignored that? Silly me, how could you when you were COMPLETELY IGNORING them?
As always, Mind Your Ninth Commandment. DOH! Silly me... you completely ignored THAT, too.
Sarisly

Owingsville, KY

#105110 May 28, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Come, come defender. Been there done that. One was a hoax that was suspected from the start and the others were errors. All were cleared up NOT by the clergy, but by the scientific community itself. Don't you remember the couple dozen posts in which you COMPLETELY ignored that? Silly me, how could you when you were COMPLETELY IGNORING them?
As always, Mind Your Ninth Commandment. DOH! Silly me... you completely ignored THAT, too.
Here you have one of the major differences between science and religion.

Science: verifiable evidence, facts, and repeatable results. What can be measured/observed is studied, science does not include the supernatural(nor is it denied). If new evidence/research overturns established "theories" it isn't heresy.

Religion: It is written that way, to question is blasphemy. What does get lost in the static is philosophy and ideals for treating one another better.

Here's something to mull over: The diameter of the observable universe is estimated at about 28 billion parsecs(93 billion light years)compare this to the size of the Earth.
Oxymoron

Glasgow, KY

#105111 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
If you accept one science, you have to, by definition, accept all that results from the scientific method, that includes evolution ... now the "big bang" still needs a lot of work to be as viable as evolution so meh. But denying evolution is simply denying reality and the scientific method.
it looks to me that the more Scientists try to answer a question the more questions that pop up of How, When, Where, and Why; the conclusion of the last answer came about, it's never ending. The universe will have burned out before all the questions are answered. It all leads to a Big Bang and nobody knows how or why it happened; and if it was just a random occurrence, why hasn't it happened more than once and how could we possibly know if it has happened more than once. Nonbelievers probably have more faith than believers, if they had used all that energy trying to find God rather than trying to disprove Him we would surely all be sitting in the Kingdom of Heaven by now. But I understand why I think, it's because they look at Christianity today and say to themselves "If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed" and I don't blame them. You can not look at Christianity of today because it is not the true representation of Christ, because there is little if any Love left in it, there hasn't been for many many centuries and even then it was only a twinkle at best way back before the Romans slaughtered the original followers of Christ. But the Message he left behind is still just as real today as it was then, it's up to you personally to become a reflection of that light, it cannot be found anywhere today except in yourself. It must start with you, just as a few years ago it started also in me. You don't have to go to church in fact anymore I'd advise against it unless you are just going to learn, it's a school house anymore, a university, but the time comes when one must graduate and leave the school and walk with God where ever he goes, for he is Love, Mercy, kindness, and understanding; and he will guide your steps. But you must listen to Christ's words in the New Testament for he revealed many things to the world that man was confused about prior to that time, it's just that now the world has fallen back into confusion all over again, because we lack the patience and the faith to dig until we find the answers to our questions, but above all we must find the Love we once had for each other because we can have all things but lack that an it all falls apart. Sounds like the world we live in to me.

1 Corinthians 13:2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not LOVE, I am nothing.

Matthew 4:4 It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

2 Timothy 4:5 But WATCH THOU IN ALL THINGS endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make FULL PROOF of thy ministry.
GWB

Rancho Cordova, CA

#105112 May 28, 2013
Sarisly wrote:
<quoted text>
Here you have one of the major differences between science and religion.
Science: verifiable evidence, facts, and repeatable results. What can be measured/observed is studied, science does not include the supernatural(nor is it denied). If new evidence/research overturns established "theories" it isn't heresy.
Religion: It is written that way, to question is blasphemy.
I disagree. If you're referring to the Christian Greek Scriptures, it's not blasphemy the way I read it.
Oxymoron

Glasgow, KY

#105113 May 28, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>
I admire your faith, I think the bible does say gaps will close.
Daniel 12:4
Thanks my friend.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#105114 May 28, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
<quoted text>
Au contraire, albeit FAR from anything as simplified as the evolutionary aspects of science, there still remains the UNKNOWN, such as found within the "GOD particle".
Do us all a favor and look up the word PHYSICS sometime, maybe you could then move on past that little elvis crooning groove your little 45 record is stuck on.
You mean the goddamned particle. The least you could do is actually read about it.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#105115 May 28, 2013
Oxymoron wrote:
<quoted text>
it looks to me that the more Scientists try to answer a question the more questions that pop up of How, When, Where, and Why; .......
Duh, the more you know, the less you know, that is the adage which is coined for this very phenomenon. You offer no answers, your religion offers no answers, and even if the assertions in your religion were true, they are still not answers. The more answers you have, the more questions you should also have, that's a sign of curiosity, not a weakness. All your religion does is assert the "who," well, who cares? I know my computer was made by Dell, that doesn't help me know how it works, how to fix it, and how to program it, in any way.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#105116 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah and it can tell you everything but prove none of it... Just saying...
Wait, so you deny that everything evolves? You think you are a clone of your parents? Hilarious.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#105117 May 28, 2013
Sarisly wrote:
<quoted text>
Here you have one of the major differences between science and religion.
Science: verifiable evidence, facts, and repeatable results. What can be measured/observed is studied, science does not include the supernatural(nor is it denied). If new evidence/research overturns established "theories" it isn't heresy.
Religion: It is written that way, to question is blasphemy. What does get lost in the static is philosophy and ideals for treating one another better.
Here's something to mull over: The diameter of the observable universe is estimated at about 28 billion parsecs(93 billion light years)compare this to the size of the Earth.
The farthest visible object cannot be more distant in light years than the age of the universe, and the current contender at over 13.4 billion light years will (have) move(d) out of our 'sight' as time goes on. This makes the current visible diameter somewhere around 26 - 27 billion light years. Expansion of space exceeds the limits of c over that distance of course, so the actual diameter is considerably larger. The definition of observable vs. visible is arrived at through the cosmic microwave background radiation, and that is where the calculation of 93 billion light years for the Observable universe comes from.
But of course we both know that the Earth is only thousands of years old and that God created the entire heavens just for the Jewish tribesmen to marvel at.
defender

London, KY

#105118 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>Duh, the more you know, the less you know, that is the adage which is coined for this very phenomenon. You offer no answers, your religion offers no answers, and even if the assertions in your religion were true, they are still not answers. The more answers you have, the more questions you should also have, that's a sign of curiosity, not a weakness. All your religion does is assert the "who," well, who cares? I know my computer was made by Dell, that doesn't help me know how it works, how to fix it, and how to program it, in any way.
And than you know that your computer was designed... One cell is way more advanced but you contend natural processes (random chaos) If design had nothing to do with God then would you still fight it?... Or maybe you just have some personal problems....
defender

London, KY

#105119 May 28, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>The farthest visible object cannot be more distant in light years than the age of the universe, and the current contender at over 13.4 billion light years will (have) move(d) out of our 'sight' as time goes on. This makes the current visible diameter somewhere around 26 - 27 billion light years. Expansion of space exceeds the limits of c over that distance of course, so the actual diameter is considerably larger. The definition of observable vs. visible is arrived at through the cosmic microwave background radiation, and that is where the calculation of 93 billion light years for the Observable universe comes from.
But of course we both know that the Earth is only thousands of years old and that God created the entire heavens just for the Jewish tribesmen to marvel at.
If you can prove the speed of light is a constant that is.... Devil's in the details folks...

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#105120 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
And than you know that your computer was designed... One cell is way more advanced but you contend natural processes (random chaos) If design had nothing to do with God then would you still fight it?... Or maybe you just have some personal problems....
Knowing if the machine is designed still does not help understand how it works, you are failing to understand this very simple concept, and it's the concept that the intelligent religious people not only understand, it's why they don't deny the benefit of science at all.

My point is, who cares? So what if everything in the universe was designed, other than being a reason to fire that contractor, it does not answer any real questions and offers no solutions to our problems, none. So again, how does knowing that the computer is made by Dell help to understand how it works and how to repair it?

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#105121 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
If you can prove the speed of light is a constant that is.... Devil's in the details folks...
In space, it is constant.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#105122 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
If you can prove the speed of light is a constant that is.... Devil's in the details folks...
You don't understand science or evolution. Intelligent design is religion. You have ignored request after request to supply information to the contrary. You are a broken record of utter stupidity.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#105123 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
If you can prove the speed of light is a constant that is.... Devil's in the details folks...
You mean like proofs are mathematical, that the speed of light through a vacuum has been verified constant, or that the devil is constantly goosing you in de tail?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

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#105124 May 28, 2013
defender wrote:
<quoted text>
If you can prove the speed of light is a constant that is.... Devil's in the details folks...
My view it isn't... The speed of light is variable and it determined by the total separation distance of all matter with inertial mass in the universe, the denser the local mass the slower the value of c... The Theory of photon absorption and retransmission can be better defined with variance of the value of c within a medium and the only reason absorption and retransmission is used in calculation of em wave traversing a medium is due to the long held view that c is Constant... If c is constant then a definable reason increase in time that occurs when a em wave/photon/electron passes through a medium ...

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Since: Jan 10

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#105125 May 28, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
In space, it is constant.
I disagree... It varies at the rate of expansion of the universe and the rate of local denser regions but the rate of variance is not within the detectable range of human scale... If a change of one billionth of a second occurs over a 1000 year time frame on human scale it would be Constant...
Sarisly

Owingsville, KY

#105126 May 28, 2013
GWB wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree. If you're referring to the Christian Greek Scriptures, it's not blasphemy the way I read it.
A little research about Galileo Galilei may enlighten you futher.

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