Bible study rules for public schools ...

Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 179920 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#104585 May 23, 2013
Wings of a Dove wrote:
<quoted text>You tell me. That's why they are called MYTHS! Because they are just that.
Precisely! Now you are getting it - and certain people call them Genesis, Creation, intelligent design, or (LOL!) "Truth."
ProvenScience

Somerset, KY

#104586 May 23, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not saying you didn't know the words meaning, I'm saying you didn't know the correct spelling , refused to admit it , and refused to try and learn how to spell it.
Remind me again about your post on learning things on the web when one makes an effort to do so!
It was purposely misspelled (except for the "l" which WAS a typo)

So, sorry about your grasping at straws, self-indulgent errant assumption (or what ever it is), but yew were WRONG-Again.
ProvenScience

Somerset, KY

#104587 May 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Good job and a gold star for the day! Practice makes perfect.
Thank you ever so kindly.
Don't waste a perfectly good gold stawr on lil ol' moi though, yew can saves that kind of spawrkle spawrkle level for the children in need of such, as ah kinda out grew that kindergarten level stuff--MANY years ago.
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#104588 May 23, 2013
Well if I were trying to make a statement of one pretending to have knowledge of something; I certainly would not intentionally misspell anything in that statement for fear of making myself look the fool

BUT different strokes for different folks

Cheers :)
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#104589 May 23, 2013
you cotton headed ninny muffin, just admit I gotcha again!!

Cheers!:)
Man who wants more

Chicago, IL

#104590 May 23, 2013
Ok ill admit I've had consensual sex with 4 ladies at the same time did not plan it it just happened. Was that wrong?
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#104591 May 23, 2013
Man who wants more wrote:
Ok ill admit I've had consensual sex with 4 ladies at the same time did not plan it it just happened. Was that wrong?
And then you woke up!

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#104592 May 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Precisely! Now you are getting it - and certain people call them Genesis, Creation, intelligent design, or (LOL!) "Truth."
We were speaking of shamans and witch doctors. They were real, yet powerless in reality. The same God gave life to all those shamans and witch doctors as he did to us. Some just do it wrong.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#104593 May 23, 2013
Man who wants more wrote:
Ok ill admit I've had consensual sex with 4 ladies at the same time did not plan it it just happened. Was that wrong?
Other than logistics...no.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#104594 May 23, 2013
Wings of a Dove wrote:
<quoted text>We were speaking of shamans and witch doctors. They were real, yet powerless in reality. The same God gave life to all those shamans and witch doctors as he did to us. Some just do it wrong.
Exactly. Priest, preacher, prophet, shaman, witch doctor, cosmic muffins, hairy thunderers, creators. You get it - mythologies.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#104595 May 23, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not in favor of birth control that purposely destroyes the fertilized egg. So if these methods can perform this act, I'm not in favor.
OK, so since pretty much everything that doesn't physically stop the sperm has a chance of this, I guess that you don't support any birth control method other than condom/sponge/diaphragm and the like. Wouldn't you agree that it would be better to condone the other forms of birth control rather than only relying on methods with much higher rates of failure, therefore increasing the incidence of later term abortions?
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
The other scenario still sounds backwards to me. If you compare sex to driving:
Driving is to car crash, as sex is to abortion, does not equate.
In a car crash, either the car or people, or both are injured.
In an unwanted pregnancy (I'm assuming you mean as the accident), no one is injured (at least not yet). They are inconvenienced, but not needing "help" to save their life. They just don't want to be pregnant, so the abortion would be to end the life of the thing that will inconvenience them in the future. I don't think this is the same thing.
Quit trying to make the car crash life threatening and quit severely devaluing the impact to a young female if you want to see my point. I'm not condoning either side, I just think that many religious people don't look at the human cost of forcing a naive child (who probably can't even support themselves) to carry a pregnancy to full term. I just don't think that anyone automatically placing the "needs" of a completely unaware and unthinking single digit celled zygote above the needs of a fully aware, fully thinking, and likely devastated human being is really being objective in any way.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#104596 May 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>If you can't accept the anthropological origins of religion, you are probably too steeped in "modern" religion to be objective. Not my fault.
Can-Am, Caravan, Segway - all modes of conveying a human body to where it wants to go. Sociologically, there in no difference between a priest and a witch doctor. Both perform the EXACT same function. Conveying a human "spirit" to where they want to go.
As an outsider, maybe you see it that way. To me, you sound just like the religious people that you complain about trying to explain science.
ProvenScience

Somerset, KY

#104597 May 23, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
Well if I were trying to make a statement of one pretending to have knowledge of something; I certainly would not intentionally misspell anything in that statement for fear of making myself look the fool
BUT different strokes for different folks
Cheers :)
Some of us don't have to pretend, therefore, we don't have to run around worrying about it.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#104598 May 23, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
As an outsider, maybe you see it that way. To me, you sound just like the religious people that you complain about trying to explain science.
Of course. I'm sorry, I'm sure it isn't your fault.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#104599 May 23, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
As an outsider, maybe you see it that way. To me, you sound just like the religious people that you complain about trying to explain science.
If a religious person explains science in a rational manner, there isn't any issue. It's when they get it bass ackward because they 1) are manipulative 2) have been manipulated or 3) just palin (LOL! accidentally appropriate typo, there) don't know what they are talking about that the issues become heated.
I don't care about your "priesthood." You can investigate the anthropological origins of religion for yourself, as you dare. I've found that the topic is somewhat interesting and relevant to the thread, since it is also closely related to the origins of the arts.
stuck in a lodi

Elkhorn City, KY

#104600 May 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
If a religious person explains science in a rational manner, there isn't any issue. It's when they get it bass ackward because they 1) are manipulative 2) have been manipulated or 3) just palin (LOL! accidentally appropriate typo, there) don't know what they are talking about that the issues become heated.
I don't care about your "priesthood." You can investigate the anthropological origins of religion for yourself, as you dare. I've found that the topic is somewhat interesting and relevant to the thread, since it is also closely related to the origins of the arts.
Good Post. Well said

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#104602 May 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly. Priest, preacher, prophet, shaman, witch doctor, cosmic muffins, hairy thunderers, creators. You get it - mythologies.
I never have felt the presence of a shaman in my life. I do the Living God. Yes I do get it. Smart enough to know what's real and what isn't. I guess it's your word against mine. I'd like to ask you something. If we all initially came from some big bang, why are we like snowflakes. Shouldn't we all all have the same DNA/genetic make up? But..you cannot answer this because in all honesty no one knows what really happened. That is a fact. No human on earth can go back whether billions (as some claim) or thousands of years (as others claim) and tell the story beginning to end. That info does not exist. Studies and findings yes, theories yes. All the story?..no. Still searching for a way to prove their theory and will still be at it when they come face to face with the truth. It would take one who was there in the beginning to tell it all. Right? I know Him. And that's what I believe...Nite.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

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#104603 May 24, 2013
_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, so since pretty much everything that doesn't physically stop the sperm has a chance of this, I guess that you don't support any birth control method other than condom/sponge/diaphragm and the like. Wouldn't you agree that it would be better to condone the other forms of birth control rather than only relying on methods with much higher rates of failure, therefore increasing the incidence of later term abortions?
<quoted text>
Quit trying to make the car crash life threatening and quit severely devaluing the impact to a young female if you want to see my point. I'm not condoning either side, I just think that many religious people don't look at the human cost of forcing a naive child (who probably can't even support themselves) to carry a pregnancy to full term. I just don't think that anyone automatically placing the "needs" of a completely unaware and unthinking single digit celled zygote above the needs of a fully aware, fully thinking, and likely devastated human being is really being objective in any way.
Precisely. Every time I get into this abortion discussion and I bring up kids having kids people seem to be unwilling to discuss it in those terms. They want to focus on 30-yo women having 8th month abortions...which is *incredibly rare*. But 13-yo girls getting pregnant is not so rare. And steering such a child toward having the baby is irresponsible of adults and it completely ignores the suffering of the child.

I understand the religious position, but it is based on magic and superstition. It requires you to think that when sperm hits egg God shoots a soul into it from Heaven...which is silly.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#104604 May 24, 2013
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Monogamy began before recorded history, more than likely so they would feel an alliance with each other and the male would know which children were his that he needed to support. No ceremony or vow needed to happen for this type of union. Marriage wasn't talked about or confirmed in public until religions were involved. Feel free to research it. You can easily find this.
Again, civil unions are fine with me.
And you did ask about the leader of my church. I knew you didn't really want to know, that's why I didn't answer, I just told you his name so you could look him up if you wanted to. Again, you can call it discrimination if you want to. The best explanation I have heard was from an apostle. Men have the priesthood because we need it. Women seem to have a more natural tendency towards righteousness.
I asked for the scripture you claimed Jesus spoke of only men holding the priesthood. You failed to supply the answer.

You made the claim of marriage, now prove it. I think marriage came long before written history. Marriage is but a commitment.
In our society, government regulates this commitment and gives many benefits for that commitment. Religion fights that process due to bigotry. The same sort of bigotry that your church is well known for with black persons and women. Your church fought for prop eight and this cause many to not have the benefits of equality in our society.

I cannot remember every question I ask you. You run for days from so many that eventually I forget the question. Can you give me a hint on the leader question? How long ago did I ask the question?
Yes and Amen

Winchester, KY

#104605 May 24, 2013
stuck in a lodi wrote:
stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text> I did not say it was 100% fool-proof. The majority of people who put the condom on in the correct manner do not experience "bursting or breakage". My point is; it's better than having no protection and risking such diseases.
For your second point, I said I encourage NO SEX UNTIL AFTER MARRIAGE, what part of that did you not understand? But I'm not going to pretend to be stupid in thinking that they will marry as a virgin! It is my responsibility as a parent to teach them SEX ED 101. for both genders! Yes and Amen wrote:
AMEN!
Lust of anything is bad, sex, money, power!
It all withers, rusts, and blows away!
What we think important today is garbage tomorrow!
I'm still trying to figure out how to take all the good stuff with me when I die.:) j/k
Trouble is... not a lot of "Good" here... since the fall! Memories of loves, and family?

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