Time for GOP to throw tea party under the bus

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Ex Republican

Murray, KY

#4 Oct 14, 2013
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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The "Conservatives" ARE the party. It's the wacko Moderates like McConnell, McCain, and Graham that are laying down with the devil and hurting the country.
Would you consider Richard Nixon a "conservative"?

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#5 Oct 14, 2013
BL Zebub wrote:
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The tea party is tolerated because were they not the party would be effectively split and weakened. Most republicans are not tea party members. Since the tea part sees nothing wrong with crippling the government and the US, it stands to reason they would be glad to do the same to the republican party (splitting).
Thats all there is to it.
Democrats like you have no idea what the composition of the Republican Party is like. The Moderates are the tail. The Conservatives are the dog.

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#6 Oct 14, 2013
Ex Republican wrote:
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Would you consider Richard Nixon a "conservative"?
That's like asking if I think Abe Lincoln was a Conservative. Richard Nixon is ancient history.
Buckley fan

London, KY

#7 Oct 14, 2013
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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Democrats like you have no idea what the composition of the Republican Party is like. The Moderates are the tail. The Conservatives are the dog.
If you are categorizing the tea party as "the conservatives" I like your dog analogy. Most tea party participants are not classic conservatives. They are, from my observation, ignorant louts who have no concept of economics or anything else. They are simply mad and yelling seems to help them alleviate a frustration born of impotence. But the tea party members I have encountered would not be considered conservatives by the likes of Bill Buckley; I suspect he would classify them as rather silly, full of sound and thunder but no substance.

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#8 Oct 14, 2013
Buckley fan wrote:
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If you are categorizing the tea party as "the conservatives" I like your dog analogy. Most tea party participants are not classic conservatives. They are, from my observation, ignorant louts who have no concept of economics or anything else. They are simply mad and yelling seems to help them alleviate a frustration born of impotence. But the tea party members I have encountered would not be considered conservatives by the likes of Bill Buckley; I suspect he would classify them as rather silly, full of sound and thunder but no substance.
You're falling for the liberal media's portrayal of the Tea Party. Tea Party meetings I have attended were mostly land owners, small business people, and Doctors. Don't believe ANYTHING you see on MSNBC...
Ex Republican

Paducah, KY

#9 Oct 14, 2013
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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That's like asking if I think Abe Lincoln was a Conservative. Richard Nixon is ancient history.
Reason I asked is Richard Nixon proposed a national health insurance plan in 1974 that was almost identical to "Obamacare" exepot it went a little further. It included something like the "public option" that Obama let the insurance companies strip out of his plan and it required all employers, not just those with over 50 full time employees, to provide health insurance. The employer paid 75 percent and the employee paid 25 percent. Democrats in Congress killed it without ever taking a vote because they considered it "too conservative".

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#10 Oct 14, 2013
Ex Republican wrote:
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Reason I asked is Richard Nixon proposed a national health insurance plan in 1974 that was almost identical to "Obamacare" exepot it went a little further. It included something like the "public option" that Obama let the insurance companies strip out of his plan and it required all employers, not just those with over 50 full time employees, to provide health insurance. The employer paid 75 percent and the employee paid 25 percent. Democrats in Congress killed it without ever taking a vote because they considered it "too conservative".
Very interesting. I believe the Government, and especially the Federal Government, need to get out of free markets and let market forces work. None of our Founding Fathers would have approved of this level of intervention of government in our lives. It's become frightening. Governments NEVER operate as efficiently as the free market.
Ex Republican

Paducah, KY

#11 Oct 14, 2013
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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Very interesting. I believe the Government, and especially the Federal Government, need to get out of free markets and let market forces work. None of our Founding Fathers would have approved of this level of intervention of government in our lives. It's become frightening. Governments NEVER operate as efficiently as the free market.
Problem is this:

Capitalism tends to concentrate the wealth into the hands of a very few people at the top and impoverish everybody else. Business and industry tends to concentrate into monopoly. Be definition a monopoly is not a free market. Only government is strong enough to regulate captialism's tendency to self destruct into monopoly.

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#12 Oct 14, 2013
Ex Republican wrote:
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Problem is this:
Capitalism tends to concentrate the wealth into the hands of a very few people at the top and impoverish everybody else. Business and industry tends to concentrate into monopoly. Be definition a monopoly is not a free market. Only government is strong enough to regulate captialism's tendency to self destruct into monopoly.
Government is so weak right now they couldn't regulate anything. Can't even come up with a balanced budget.
Laurel Patriot

United States

#13 Oct 14, 2013
Ex Republican wrote:
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Problem is this:
Capitalism tends to concentrate the wealth into the hands of a very few people at the top and impoverish everybody else. Business and industry tends to concentrate into monopoly. Be definition a monopoly is not a free market. Only government is strong enough to regulate captialism's tendency to self destruct into monopoly.
"Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door." Sam Walton, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Howard Schultz, Ray Kroc, the list is endless. Just think of the millions upon millions of jobs these men created with NO Government help. Government creates NOTHING!
time

Winchester, KY

#14 Oct 14, 2013
Time for the tea party to retire some more members of the gop like we did in 2010.
Ex Republican

Paducah, KY

#16 Oct 14, 2013
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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"Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door." Sam Walton, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Howard Schultz, Ray Kroc, the list is endless. Just think of the millions upon millions of jobs these men created with NO Government help. Government creates NOTHING!
Walmart is the prime example of how monopoly impoverishes people. Sure, Walmart hires a lot of people, almost all of them at very low wages and many part time. At the same time it destroyed independent local businesses. It also destroyed American manufacturing jobs by buying its goods overseas in places like Bangladesh where workers are paid starvation wages and worked under horrific conditions. The goods are then brought into the USA and sold at a huge markup. This sucks even more wealth out of the pockets of lower income Americans and adds it to the wealth of Sam Walton's 6 heirs, who now control as much wealth as the bottom 180 million Americans combined.
Interesting

London, KY

#17 Oct 15, 2013
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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"Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door." Sam Walton, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Howard Schultz, Ray Kroc, the list is endless. Just think of the millions upon millions of jobs these men created with NO Government help. Government creates NOTHING!
Our government creates nothing: whats the military, public schools and universities, national parks, the highway system, court systems, just to mention a few of the institutions created and perpetuated by the government. Our government is very important and in 2007 we saw greed on unregulated Wall Street nearly sink the world economy. We need government involved to prevent that type of disaster again. In fact much of what government creates and sustains is the very fabric of our society.
ronald raggin

London, KY

#19 Oct 15, 2013
Stupid tea party fools rune the rep party like bush did a repub will never get voted back in after this shit makes us look like cry baby nut jobs sickens me to the core and my party has let me down yet again.

Interesting

London, KY

#20 Oct 15, 2013
Laurel Patriot wrote:
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"Build a better mousetrap, and the world will beat a path to your door." Sam Walton, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Howard Schultz, Ray Kroc, the list is endless. Just think of the millions upon millions of jobs these men created with NO Government help. Government creates NOTHING!
Your comments are typical tea party BS. If you think government did not play a huge role in the aforementioned men's success, your foolish. These men could not have succeeded without the society created, in part, by the government and government supported institutions. Could they have succeeded without a highway system, an educated workforce or a banking/monetary system? No, and that, my friend, is what too many of your people don't realize. But what bothers me about current tea party congressmen is their willingness to destroy the world economy in an effort to get their way. You lost, Obama is President and the Affordable Health Care Act is law. You have a right to try and repeal it, but you have no right to highjack the economy in an attempt to extort some change. These tactics are thuggish and like 74 per cent of America I disapprove.

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#24 Oct 15, 2013
I barely know where to begin. The road system was built by Eisenhower as "busy work" to employ returning Veterans. The parks were created by God. Most Courts and Universities are run by the States and Municipalities. The Military is a remnant of WW2 and needs to be shrunk to a continental defense force to discourage military junkets to Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and other places where we have no legitimate National interest. It sounds to me like you pansy liberals WANT to be slaves to "big brother". Have you screwed up your own lives so badly that you need Big Brother to knock life's achievers down a peg to make you feel better? Your failure in life is ON YOU...

I'm laughing pretty hard at the dolt that wants me to "define my terms". The Tea Party is composed of life's achievers. Those folks who succeeded in life through hard work without accepting a dime from Government. People who have EARNED their comfortable retirement and see it threatened by liberal socialists are Tea Party members. Young people who want the same chance to succeed as their parents are Tea Party members.
MissPerfect

Bloomington, IL

#26 Oct 15, 2013
The Republican Tea Baggers are hard at work destroying the USA...

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#27 Oct 15, 2013
MissPerfect wrote:
The Republican Tea Baggers are hard at work destroying the USA...
If, by USA you mean Unions, Socialists, and Anarchists, then I agree with you.
MissPerfect

Bloomington, IL

#29 Oct 15, 2013
Republicans, please keep listing to Rush Limbaugh or whoever you get your information from, because we just keep winning presidential elections.
MissPerfect

Bloomington, IL

#31 Oct 15, 2013
The GOP brings up the IRS scandal a YEAR after they knew about it, and tries to hide the fact they are the ones who voted DOWN the funding for security at Benghazi.

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